My 'The Dark Knight' Review SPOILERS

[The Dark Knight]

Nothing that I can think of at the current moment. If I think of anything, I'll be sure to let you know. Perhaps Nolan could have held some shots for a little longer, some sequences seemed to end a little abruptly.

[Joker81]

Not much, I loved it all. The fact Ledger will not reprise his role most of all.

I think the fact that Ledger will never reprise his role is sad. I don't want to turn this into a Nicholson Vs. Ledger debate, but Nicholson STARRED in Batman, Ledger was just a supporting player.

Nicholson IS Batman 89, don't get me wrong, I like everything else that happened in that film, from Keatons portrayal, to Kim Basinger, Michael Gough, Pat Hingle, Robert Wurhl, Jack Palance, the sets, Gotham City, the custumes, Batmobile, Batwing and Batcave, and score. But Nicholson made that film and is very much a part of the whole gothic atmosphere.

So I think I was disappointed that TDK wasnt just a Batman vs Joker story. Like I've said before if Two Face wasnt in it I wouldnt have cared. I feel Ledger wasnt in it enough, and he could of gave us more. I've stated before that when Two Face comes into the story it suffers, the plot and the Joker character is near non existant.

So I think we have been robbed  of another great Ledger Joker appearance in Batman 3. I think if he had still of been alive he most certainly would have made an appearance in the third film.

You are rite, it is sad to think that less than a year after completing TDK, Heath Ledger would be gone.  
I have to say tremendous actor.

But because of these flaws in TDK, Nicholson is still my favourite and best Joker. As it was a Batman vs Joker story.

[The Dark Knight]

But because of these flaws in TDK, Nicholson is still my favourite and best Joker. As it was a Batman vs Joker story.

Yes, fair enough and good point. The whole film is actually about Harvey Dent ? The Joker is secondary.

[Gotham Knight]

But because of these flaws in TDK, Nicholson is still my favourite and best Joker. As it was a Batman vs Joker story.

Yes, fair enough and good point. The whole film is actually about Harvey Dent ? The Joker is secondary.

Which works fair enough. However to pull that off better, the actor who plays Batman has to bring it enough to so the character stands up well to the fact that the story revolves around someone else, and Bale didn't.

[Gotham Knight]

I had an epiphany today. Unfortunately it?s another criticism. I figured out why Ledger carries the film and his character is easily the best thing in it. Because Nolan, when it comes to these movies (I?ve not seen his other pictures) doesn?t know how to develop characters without dulling down the movie. Every character in the film that has a character to develop and grow over time, Nolan spoon-feeds every bit of it to the audience in sloppy expository long-winded monologues. Each principle character as a moment where they have a monologue that blatantly tells you how far their character has grown to that point and what the movie is generally about from their perspective and it?s done so sloppily and ultimately the stiff dialogue hinders the performances. However, because Joker is a ?tour de force? and is given no character with which to grow, the performance is allowed to breath and rises above the others because they?ve been dulled down by sloppy development.

[thecolorsblend]

I had an epiphany today. Unfortunately it?s another criticism. I figured out why Ledger carries the film and his character is easily the best thing in it. Because Nolan, when it comes to these movies (I?ve not seen his other pictures) doesn?t know how to develop characters without dulling down the movie. Every character in the film that has a character to develop and grow over time, Nolan spoon-feeds every bit of it to the audience in sloppy expository long-winded monologues. Each principle character as a moment where they have a monologue that blatantly tells you how far their character has grown to that point and what the movie is generally about from their perspective and it?s done so sloppily and ultimately the stiff dialogue hinders the performances. However, because Joker is a ?tour de force? and is given no character with which to grow, the performance is allowed to breath and rises above the others because they?ve been dulled down by sloppy development.

Ya know, I'd agree with that.  I think it applies to Memento as well.  Leonard has a bit where he goes off about consequences for decisions and such saying something like "the world doesn't disappear just because I close my eyes."  That, I think, is meant to be juxtaposed against the voiceover at the "end" (or the "beginning", depending on how you look at it) of the film, where he basically decides to become a murderer... both of which were delivered in fairly heavy-handed fashion.  It kinda fits and it's largely done better than Nolan's Batman films... but it does seem to be a hallmark of his.

[Slinky]

The Dark Knight sucked! Burton's Batman FAR superior in my opinion.

[shadowbat69]

Oh, please elaborate.  We dont really care for a "that sucks" type fof response. Explain what you didnt like about it.

[Slinky]

Hi gang! I'd be happy to elaborate, but first let me say to everyone about to pounce: "easy boys...easy... This is just my opinion!"
   Let me say that I LOVE Batman, and I especially loved Tim Burton's 1989 movie. That film re-invented Batman for popular culture. It was creative genius and I would say that not only is it a classic but it is a masterpiece. Because I love Batman I really wanted to love TDK. I wanted it to be awesome. I thought BB was a very good film, although not great, and not near Tim Burton's, but I was hopeful that TDK would blow them all out of the water. I can honestly say that I really tried to like it, but after seeing it, while I can't say I hated it, I'm pretty close, and here in point form is why:

- THE PLOT: Before I get into this I must say that I thought Robert Downey Jr.'s comments on the film's plot were hilarious and right on. Google Robert Downey Jr. and The Dark Knight to check it out. Anyways, the plot was IMO crap. There was no over arching story that led up to a climax. The two scenes at the end (the climax?), the bit with the two boats (which was not a bad idea), and the whole scene battling the Joker in the tower, had a VERY TENUOUS connection to the film's main plot (if I can call it that). They were just stuck there at the end. The tower scene itself was just wierd. There was no build up to it, and where did the Joker get all those people, and how did he tie them up like that? Did he do it himself? How is that possible? Did he have people helping him. Where are they, and where did they go? To me the main (not considering the sub-plots here) plot (?) boiled down to this: The Joker's going to blow up this, Batman fails to stop it. The Joker's going to blow up that, Batman fails to stop it. Now he's going to blow this up, oh wait, now he's fighting Batman and Batman captures him. The end. I tell ya... when it got to Joker blowing up the hospital I actually looked at my watch and thought "man this is a long movie and it's getting tedious."

-THE CHARACTERS: Did any of the characters endear themselves to the audience? Not in my books. Let me break it down.
Bruce Wayne: Did NOTHING to endear himself to the audience, he was just there.
Batman: To quote a guy on Facebook, "Batman is no longer a role model for kids. They have made him a violent a@#*%^e." Amen! I totally agree. Not only that but I tell you what, I took my 13 year old daughter (who LOVES comic book movies) to see TDK and after the movie, before I even commented, she said: "Pffttt... some hero Batman is... he didn't even really do anything till the end of the movie and by then I didn't care." I felt the same way. What kind of super hero can't even rescue the girl? (I know, I know... it was part of the making of Two-Face... whatever! The hero should at least be able to rescue the girl for crying out loud) And for the record, that over-the-top Batman growling boarders on ridiculous. Frikin' guy can't even stay on his bike! F-
Racheal Dawe Ugghhh... horrible performance. The worst in the film. No spark, no personality... and Bruce and Harvey are madly in love with this girl? Please!
Joker: Keep all that Hollywood hype nonsense about Heath's incredible performance yadda, yadda, yadda... I call it Clockwork Orange plagerization! Jack Nicholson was creepy, scary, and hilarious all at the same time, unlike Heath's ONE NOTE performance. He was the same from the beginning of the film to the end. "But wait..." some say, "notice that he hated his father, that gives him depth!" Nonsense! Simplistic! A one note performance.
Commissioner Gordon: Ahhh Comissioner Gordon... you might have been a good character if we had got to know you a bit better, and ESPECIALLY YOUR FAMILY, but unfortunately the film makers only had your wife open the door a couple of times, and your son only showed his face once. Made it kinda hard to connect and really care at the end when they were in trouble.
Harvey Dent: The only character I thought was remotely endearing.

-THE LACK OF HUMOUR. There was none. Which leads me to say...

-IT WAS NOT FUN.

-THE LOOK OF THE FILM: Burton's film was dark in tone but it still had color to it, lot's of color, and it was beautiful to look at. TDK is just dull in plot and in colors.

-THE SCORE: The music in TDK was TOTALLY forgettable, in fact some of the action scenes had no music, unlike Elfman's incredible soundtracks for Burton's films.

-Last but not least I have to get this off my chest. I over looked it in BB because that film was at least pretty good but I'm not going to over look it in this pile of dung... THE BATMOBILE. Give me a break! The Batmobile should be (and always has been...) a sleek, and awesome sports car, the kind that every fanboy would like to have in his driveway, not some clunky, cumbersome, tank-like, military assault vehicle! That thing SUCKS! Trash it now please!

In conclusion I would like to say that I would take Burton's Batman over that tedious, dour, morous, humourless, and anarchistic pile of sh*t any day!

[shadowbat69]

Nope, we're not gonna pounce, just wanted you to explain in more detail. Great post showing us exactly what you didnt like. This is what we like to see here. If these are youre opinions on the film, we accept that. and welcome to our cave.