My 'The Dark Knight' Review SPOILERS

[Grissom]

Raleagh, I enjoyed your no holds bar look at TDk, I myself thought it was a great film, but not the prefection that a lot of people are making it out to be. You have some very good analysis there, and especially like that you said that "everything doesn't need to be explained".

Some of the writing seemed expository and leaves no mystery sometimes. I still prefer Burton's originals but hats off to Nolan and company for bringing Batman back to his dark and psychological roots.

[Paul (ral)]

As I said, it was a one sided look.  I can still watch it and say this bit was good, that bit was good but on the whole there are fundemental problems that I have with the filmmakers approach.

All of the movies have them so why am I not blasting them?

Simple - those film-makers are not at the helm of a franchise I hold dear.  Unfortunately for me, given the success of the movie those fundemental problems will go unchecked.

[Gotham Knight]

All Good points. You brought up serveral points that I didn't notice before, but now that their out in the open nag me like crazy! See what you did?!

Anywho, its funny you mentioned 'a pace like Begins' because I just watched both back to back and it made me like Begins more than I ever have before and dislike TDK more. And because of that ( and because of the 'frustration' thread) I was planing on extending my thoughts a bit on a BB/TDK comparison (in this thread prolly) and a talk about how the fanboys of TDK have offected my opinion of it.

Good stuff Raleagh

[BatmAngelus]

Like a Bat outta Hell- Definitely agreed.
Knowing me?  Knowing you?- Hadn't thought of that, but a valid point.
Less SCI-Fi, more CSI please- Definitely agreed about the far-fetched detective methods.  On first viewing, though, I was just glad it was there, haha.
Sonar Device- Agreed.
Use your illusion- Agreed.  Especially "The first time he put the cowl on and couldn't move his head would be the last time he would wear it."
I see what you did there (actually...no...I didn't)- Didn't bother me as much.
You can take the Bat out of Gotham but...- Bruce visiting Harvey would've been quite a scene.
The Love Triangle- Agreed
Katie or Maggie- Gotta say I prefer Maggie, but you bring up valid points about the characterization.
The Real Love Triangle- Definitely agreed.  Harvey and Gordon are driving the scene more here.
I wanted to see what you'd do...and you didn't disappoint- "My only gripe is that the Joker's plan are too perfect" Agreed.
I'm split over this one- Agreed for the most part.
Commish- Always had a problem with the "death" subplot.  Interesting point about the possible demotion.
The Veterans- I definitely would've wanted more Alfred and less Fox, as well.
Well at least that's better- Agreed

And I also agree, for the most part, with your list of what to see in the next one.

[batass4880]

Totally agree with you raleagh about making Gotham City dark again. There were moments in the film that I thought they were in Metropolis. I don't like the fact that they're shooting these films in Chicago. You'd think WB could spend the extra money to shoot in NYC--the real Gotham.

[DarkVengeance]

Totally agree with you raleagh about making Gotham City dark again. There were moments in the film that I thought they were in Metropolis. I don't like the fact that they're shooting these films in Chicago. You'd think WB could spend the extra money to shoot in NYC--the real Gotham.

Thats the reason why I loved the narrows so much in BB, and missed them so much in TDK, I really loved that dark gritty atmosphere ( it actually seemed like a really dangerous place to be similar to Gotham in '89), maybe we'll see them again in the possible third film.

[Batmoney]

Indeed I also thought the narrows were visually superb. They have to bring back that set.

[GuedesGothamKnight]

Well, I liked the narrows in BB, but I don't miss them in TDK.
But bring it back in B3 would be amazing! 

[DarkVengeance]

Well, I liked the narrows in BB, but I don't miss them in TDK.
But bring it back in B3 would be amazing! 

Why dont you miss them in TDK? They could have been used perfectly in more than one area of the film, so could've seeing Wayne Manor being rebuilt, the original Wayne Tower ( used as it was in BB and not hidden in TDK behind other buildings or for us to just pretend its not there when it really is) and Arkham in the narrows being re-built or fixed.

[Paul (ral)]

I thought the use of Arkham in Batman: Gotham Knight was a great one.

I thought Gotham Knight was supposed to be a precusor to TDK.