My 'The Dark Knight' Review SPOILERS

Started by Gotham Knight, Mon, 28 Jul 2008, 17:42

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Welcome Slinky.

I have to say that I don't agree with about the TDK performances completely, but the two parts where you read my mind were

the "color" of the movie

and the tenuous connections between the set-pieces, but then the same could be said of any of the previous films (though not BB as much) to a certain extent.

Sun, 12 Oct 2008, 07:58 #61 Last Edit: Sun, 12 Oct 2008, 08:06 by dk2732
Here's my take on TDK-

It's a fairly good  crime thriller type movie, and Ledger (as has been said a million times!) is outstanding in his performance.

As a Batman film it left me extremely disappointed.

I don't write reviews so I'll just list my points-

Gotham City-To be honest at no point in the film did it feel like Gotham City to me, it had no atmosphere, looked a lot like Chicago, too many daylight scenes....Looked a lot like Heat  though;).

Harvey Dent- I think it was a mistake to make this Harvey's story, his character arc was just too quick in a plot that just crammed too much in. Nobody I know particularly liked Dent or cared about what happened to him, and the minute his face changes to half CGI, I really lost any interest in the character.

Rachel Dawes-ugh. terrible character created for Batman Begins, Gyllenhall is a better choice than Holmes but the character is awful,and that "love triangle" between her and Harvey and Bruce is not in the least convincing at all.


Bruce Wayne/Batman- My biggest problem of all. Christian Bale (who I think is terrific in other films ) doesn't really act in this film, no emotions , no nothing, when he's on screen as Wayne its like he's phoning it in, no screen presence, no brooding, no nothing!
As for his Batman performance, (This might not have been his choice..) That bat-voice is awful, nearly ruins the movie. You're trying to hear the dialogue and can't understand what Batman is saying!!!???? It pulls you right out of the film.

Finally-

Convoluted plot-
I don't know about anyone else here, but I found the twisty/turny plot a bit ridiculous at times. As for that sonar bit, that was awful, couldn't tell what was meant to be happening, and the ending was very unconvincing, oh yeah, and Nolan can't direct action.

It is not the "greatest film of all time", its not even the best Batman film IMO

Thanks for letting me say all that, you're not allowed to say what I just did in certain other places!

Good review i argee on pretty much everything you said, all but Harvey Dent i really liked how Nolan did him and Two-Face, with a performance every bit as good as Ledgers but i agree on the cgi face it would have looked better if his eye didn't move.

Quote from: Sandman on Sun, 12 Oct  2008, 08:14
Good review i argee on pretty much everything you said, all but Harvey Dent i really liked how Nolan did him and Two-Face, with a performance every bit as good as Ledgers but i agree on the cgi face it would have looked better if his eye didn't move.

Thanks Sandman. I do think Aaron Eckhart did a very good performance despite the other problems I had with his character.

Either way TDK has definitly made itself in the top 5 comic book films of all time!


I have given a name to my pain, and it is BATMAN.

Not for me it hasn't. Its the 4th best live action Batman film in my opinion-

Batman Returns
Batman
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight.

Quote from: dk2732 on Tue, 14 Oct  2008, 08:33
Not for me it hasn't. Its the 4th best live action Batman film in my opinion-

Batman Returns
Batman
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight.

lol its better than that, its the best made film out of all of those listed!


I have given a name to my pain, and it is BATMAN.

Thu, 16 Oct 2008, 07:40 #67 Last Edit: Thu, 16 Oct 2008, 07:43 by dk2732
My list might look a bit extreme, I'll try and explain my feelings about The Dark Knight-

It certainly is a quality film, it is a superior thriller, Heath has left an outstanding legacy in his final full performance, it is taken very seriously, but -

As a BATMAN film it left me so disappointed, I read somewhere else that someone said if you took Batman out of it, and replacd him with a cop who goes above and beyond his duty (interrogation scene etc), it would play like a "normal" thriller, about a city in peril, and I agree.

As a Batman film, for my taste it does not compare with the two Burton Batman films, those two films I thoroughly enjoyed and regard as masterpieces of the genre. I view The Dark Knight as a good thriller. Which I will still buy on  Blu-ray by the way!!!

If you think The Dark Knight is the best comic book film ever thats great, but its your opinion, you can't change mine.

QuoteAs a BATMAN film it left me so disappointed, I read somewhere else that someone said if you took Batman out of it, and replacd him with a cop who goes above and beyond his duty (interrogation scene etc), it would play like a "normal" thriller, about a city in peril

Yup i argee 100%

If you like the films in that order it's your opition you shouldn't have to explain just because people don't agree, remember your's is every bit as valid as theres ;).

I wouldnt ever want to change someone elses opinions, I can understand what your saying and I totally agree. But I can see why Nolan and co. went the route they did, they made a film with comic book characters that wasnt a typical comic book/superhero film.

Burton did the same thing with BR but did it in a way so it wasnt accepted as well and thats understandably so.

TDK did have alot of things left out "batman-wise" that I would've liked to see, but we always have a possible third film to see what could be fleshed out.

I feel like TDk was the best made comic book related film of all time cause it stayed pretty damn close to the source material and it wasnt a "comic book film" with all of the generic and overdone things in almost every Marvel film made to this day.

I truly am glad what we got is what we got, there are things that I would've wanted but it was Nolan's vision and Nolan's vision is exactly what we got, a well made film with good story, great character development and true darkness that not even Burtons gothic structures can get close to, it was the theme that made it what it is, and it was applied to alot of things going on in our world today, something other comic book films have attempted, but havent come close in comparison!

-DV


I have given a name to my pain, and it is BATMAN.