Commissioner Gordon may not be a part of Batman V Superman

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'Batman v Superman' Rumor: The New Version of Commissioner Gordon

Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice is getting steps closer to being a theatrical reality, now that director Zack Snyder has finished production on the film. As we wait for the official first trailer to drop (previewing an entire DC Justice League shared universe to follow), we have only the long run of rumors to consult for major topics of discussion.

Most fans have heard the major whispers about this new version of Batman (Ben Affleck): He is going to be older, semi-retired from crime fighting; he may be estranged from Dick Grayson and rolling with a female Robin; he's possibly policing Gotham City through the use of drones, and he doesn't take too kindly to the level of destruction inflicted by Superman at the end of Man of Steel.

Today, we're getting another rumor that points to a major change to Batman lore that could be established in Batman V Superman – and it's one that fans will likely take issue with.

Even thought this is a rumor, what it pertains to could be considered a MAJOR SPOILER for Batman V Superman. You Have been warned.

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POTENTIAL SPOILERS FOLLOW!!!!!

Badass Digest reports that in the Batman V Superman continuity, Batman will have no Commissioner Gordon, as Jim Gordon will be dead. No details about when or how Gordon died, only that the film features a memorial plaque to the man, denoting that he perished some time in the past.

In The Dark Knight Returns comic book storyline, Gordon and Bruce Wayne (who's been retired from Batman service for some time) reconciled openly with one another, acknowledging the secret behind The Batman. It made for a good Gordon/Batman story when Bruce subsequently went back to Batman duty, leaving Gordon in the awkward position of having to hand over control of the GCPD to a new commissioner, Ellen Yindel, who was brought in specifically to bring down Batman because Gordon would not.

If Batman V Superman truly has moved past Jim Gordon, there's every possibility that the Ellen Yindel character (or some variation) could be filling that void. Furthermore, the Yindel(-esque) character could also have a  similar reaction as the version of Yindel in the comic when Batman finally reappears on the scene (i.e., against him at first, but eventually accepting the need for him).

Of course, such a continuity shake-up also calls into question many other things – such as the status of characters like Barbara Gordon (Batgirl/Oracle) or Dick Grayson (Robin), and whether or not Jared Leto's Joker had anything to do with how Gordon perished. If Alfred (Jeremy Irons) is still alive and Gordon is not, it suggests that age was not so much the reason behind the Commissioner's demise.

It would be strange to have a Batman movie world without Gordon; then again, Gordon is currently having his character explored without a caped counterpart, as seen in Fox's Gotham TV series. Depending on how you feel about the success (or lack thereof) of Gotham's approach, this idea of dead Gordon in BvS will either sit comfortably or uneasily on your mind.
As always, this is all just RUMOR for now, but with production finished, we expect to start learning more official news about Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice in the coming months.

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Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice will be in theaters on March 25, 2016.  It is directed by Zack Snyder, based on a script by David S. Goyer and Chris Terrio, and stars Henry Cavill, Ben Affleck, Amy Adams, Gal Gadot, Laurence Fishburne, Jesse Eisenberg, Jeremy Irons, Diane Lane, Holly Hunter, Ray Fisher, and possibly Jason Momoa. It opens in U.S. theaters on March 25th, 2016
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Any thoughts?

I would have loved to have seen a new cinematic version of Gordon, preferably played by Bryan Cranston, but I also think Gary Oldman's take on Commissioner Gordon came close to being 'definitive' in a way one can't say of any of the live-action versions of Batman, Alfred or even the Joker, so far.  Also, as the article states, fans of "Gotham", of whom I count myself, are currently getting a full Gordon fix thanks to that show's focus on his character, and hopefully, we'll see Ben McKenzie play the character for a few seasons into middle-age/the moustache, trench-coat and glasses wearing version of the character we all know and love.
Johnny Gobs got ripped and took a walk off a roof, alright? No big loss.

Yea I'd totally prefer they have him retired instead of dead. Ug. I don't like this.

I'm pretty much in "wait and see" mode for this movie. There are some things I like (the Batsuit at #1), but there's a lot of weird ideas being reported or rumored, like this one, and we'll just have to see how it turns out.
That awkward moment when you remember the only Batman who's never killed is George Clooney...

Gordon isn't really a favorite of mine, but I see the value in him working with Batman. I hope they give us a good reason for his demise if this turns out to be true.

Quote from: Edd Grayson on Tue,  9 Dec  2014, 18:50
Gordon isn't really a favorite of mine, but I see the value in him working with Batman. I hope they give us a good reason for his demise if this turns out to be true.
Although Gordon is one of my favourites, I agree with your overall point.  If there's a good reason for Gordon's demise, say the Joker murdered him, it might add an interesting dimension to this portrait as a past-his-prime Batman.
Johnny Gobs got ripped and took a walk off a roof, alright? No big loss.

Gordon was still a tough and capable cop in the Dark Knight Returns. We've seen a resurgence of that type of character in the Dark Knight Trilogy and Gotham. If they're going to kill him, at least have it occur during the movie, might be more engaging that way.

While I'm sure we can all pick characters we want to see, the dilemma is that there's only so much screen time to go around and the most common ways comic films fail especially the big budget type are cramming too many characters.


True, but I think that if they don't want to deal with the character, just reduce him to a more minor role, like in the first three films.

Quote from: riddler on Wed, 10 Dec  2014, 01:23
While I'm sure we can all pick characters we want to see, the dilemma is that there's only so much screen time to go around and the most common ways comic films fail especially the big budget type are cramming too many characters.

Yes.

Sony found this out last May.
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