Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Started by Grissom, Sat, 29 Nov 2014, 18:22

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Ok I'm going to talk about a couple spoilers, with the text in white.

ONLY HIGHLIGHT THIS IF YOU HAVE SEEN THE MOVIE!

As much as Han's death upset me a ton (I'm still struggling with it tbh, and I still want to pull every one of Adam Driver's moles off with a pair of channellocks) I saw something someone said about it that made it all make sense. In The Phantom Menace, Obi-Wan sees his mentor and his first real father figure killed before him when Darth Maul stabs Qui Gon Jinn. In A New Hope, Luke sees his mentor and his first real father figure killed before him when Darth Vader kills Obi-Wan. Han sort of fit those roles for Rey and Finn both to a degree. It just "fit the mold" and I know people are pissed that it followed a mold to start with but they need to get over it. As for getting over Han's death, idk. I may or may not have broken down when I saw the Han Solo action figure I got a few weeks ago after I got home from the movie. I mean I get it. It adds total emotional gravity to this whole chapter, like no matter what good happens and even if Luke and Leia reunite and Rey becomes the greatest Jedi Master ever and everyone else lives happily ever after, we freaking lost Han Solo. It feels a little exploitative (both by JJ Abrams and by Harrison Ford since everyone knows he wanted Han to die a long time ago and he got fans so excited for the comeback and then it ends in the first movie) but it also makes total sense so I guess I need to quit freaking crying about it. But just....ugh. Han Solo's gone yall. Damn.

I think Rey is the first character in like a multiple film dealio that I have ever been this interested in. I am so excited to see where the future takes her, after what we saw in TFA. There are like a ton of rumors about her being Luke's daughter or having some sort of Skywalker lineage. One of the big hints is that R2D2 suddenly wakes up when he senses her (and perhaps her Skywalker genes) nearby. I personally am going to wait until the movie tells us lol. I get the sense that we will find out a lot more about her in Episode 8 even if it isn't the full story. I'm really excited to see her grow in the Force too and hopefully become a Jedi (if she falls to the dark side I may hurt someone). I know her being so force-sensitive and capable with a lightsaber and stuff has been dismissed by some people who think only men are supposed to be able to save the world as feminist pandering by Disney and Abrams but as a girl who loves watching men save the world, it's so exciting that there is a female character like Rey that could become such a huge focal point of something as massive and epic as Star Wars, especially if she is a Skywalker.

Damnit the background isn't as pure white as I thought. I hope it blends enough that I didn't just f***ing ruin the movie for someone.

I managed to see the movie yesterday in an English speaking cinema in Bern. Here's my general thoughts.

While I think it's just underneath the classic trilogy, it's a serviceable and solid entry. I think that's understandable from the filmmakers point of view given the response the prequels had. I think TFA gives the new trilogy a good launchpad for future films, and the characters are interesting and likeable.

I'm interested in Rey's journey, Finn's backstory is interesting and I find Kylo Ren pleasantly three dimensional. Conflicted and full of doubt. Feeling pressure to prove himself. Great stuff.

I'm giving this a 7/10. Nothing iconic or straight out memorable about it, but nonetheless, a pleasant viewing experience and one that makes me excited to see what happens next. That's where I think the new trilogy will really take flight, aka TESB following ANH.

I'll add more later but that's all for now. My rankings:

1. TESB
2. ROTJ
3. ANH
4. ROTS
5. TFA
6. TPM
7. AOTC

Did anyone else like Poe Dameron? He totally fits the Han mold of handsome smartass and incredible pilot. I like handsome smartasses, particularly those that are good guys. ;)

Yes, Kitty likes the bad boys with the good heart. Cliche I know.

Wed, 23 Dec 2015, 08:13 #94 Last Edit: Wed, 23 Dec 2015, 08:19 by Edd Grayson
Quote from: Catwoman on Wed, 23 Dec  2015, 07:47

Yes, Kitty likes the bad boys with the good heart. Cliche I know.


I know.  And I like you the most, especially a part of you that's right in the... middle. And loves to to be shown.   ;)



My rankings:

1. ANH
2. ROTJ
3. ROTS
4. TESB
5. TFA
6. TPM
7. AOTC


Top 5 very good.  :)

My rankings:

1. Episode IV
2. Episode V
3. Episode VI
4. Episode VII
5. Episode III
6. Episode II
7. Episode I

I think The Empire Strikes Back is the most consistently good all the way throughout, but A New Hope has more great scenes scattered throughout.  And the final third of Return of the Jedi, with the cross-cutting between the three-way fight on Endor, the space dogfight, and the Death Star lightsabre battle, is my favourite part of any of the entire Star Wars series.
Johnny Gobs got ripped and took a walk off a roof, alright? No big loss.

Thu, 24 Dec 2015, 13:59 #99 Last Edit: Thu, 24 Dec 2015, 14:01 by Edd Grayson
Episode V is pretty good, but not as enjoyable as those in my top 3. Mainly because it's the middle of the story. Upon re-watching the saga, I've come to that ranking.