Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Started by Grissom, Sat, 29 Nov 2014, 18:22

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I agree that although I didn't like "The Force Awakens" as much as the Original Trilogy (growing up loving those films, and of course all the nostalgia plays a hand in that), I found TFA to be a fun viewing, with numerous questions that are hopefully answered (atleast most of them) in the upcoming episodes. If anything, I believe Abrams achieved his job in setting up the franchise for the future. Interesting to see where it goes from here, and of course, looking VERY much forward to it.

Rankings:

1. ANH
2. ROTJ
3. TESB
4. TFA
5. ROTS
6. TPM
7. AOFC
"Imagination is a quality given a man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humour was provided to console him for what he is."

I have to admit I'm a born again Star Wars fan. I'd probably give TFA an 8/10 now, and I've been busy playing Battlefront on PS4. I'm back to being a kid again, which is a great place to be. You can really get lost in the Star Wars universe because it's so rich. And of course fun.

To be honest, I do not have stellar expectations (pun intended), like expecting new movies to be as good as the earliest ones, Star Wars has always been about the entertainment and the "space fantasy" feel. In TFA, it was that again, with no more talk about "the chosen one" and cells.  ;D

I bought someone the "official" TFA magazine, and of course I had to read through it first lol. It has a lot of wonderful interviews with much of the cast and with JJ Abrams and other people and what I love is how much they all kept going back to how it was so important that the movie used real effects and real sets and puppets and stuff instead of green screens and computers because that was a big part (not as big as the stories or characters of course but still a really big part) of why I loved it. John Boyega (Finn) talks about how even after the cameras stopped rolling the puppeteers kept the characters moving and how he was having conversations with species he'd never seen before and how BB-8 had such an attitude on set lol.

That's what made the visuals of the originals in their original format so wonderful, that it was like a real galaxy far far away. I totally get that George had this splendid vision and the computers let him do that and Star Wars was his baby after all so he was like very well within his rights but there was something very magical about everything they put together way back when and they hurt it a little with the special editions and then blew all of that with the prequels. Part of what made me love TFA so much is how everything is really there and I only have to use my imagination to be in the story and not to make myself believe in computer generated stuff. It's like I said a while back that there is a warm humanity or whatever to movies like TFA and the originals. CGI is too cold and inhuman when it comes to "live" action movies. Use it too much and I can't relate to what the characters are going through which is totally what Star Wars was about, right?

Sooooo yeah. [/kittysimpassiondcaseforpracticaleffects]

lol. I'm picturing y'all all going "Wow what is this bitch off on now?" :P Hey, I'm not just some bubblehead blonde bimbo who goes "OOO SHINY!" The shiny has to really be there ;)

TFA to me was very much like the original from 1977, with a few tweaks, except of course it was not original. So, pretty good.   ;D


Tue, 29 Dec 2015, 17:40 #106 Last Edit: Tue, 29 Dec 2015, 20:04 by Max Shreck
Windu ain't no Jedi they ever heard of... because all the focus was on Hayden and Padme in those films.

Does anyone else feel good about the way they're going with Rey, at least ?

And what's Lando Calrissian?  Chopped liver?  FFS he was played by the legend that is Billy Dee Williams AKA Harvey Dent!
Johnny Gobs got ripped and took a walk off a roof, alright? No big loss.

I haven't seen the movie so I haven't read any posts in this thread.

The 25 year old colors would probably kick the 35 year old colors right in the nards for this but not only did I skip seeing a new Star Wars movie on opening day, I didn't even see it on opening weekend. Hell, it'll probably be 2016 before I finally watch it.

*sigh*

What happens in life? How the hell did it ever come to this? I don't know.

But I just don't give a flaming crap about what looks to be a Star Wars movie where the old generation passes the baton to a politically correct assortment of fresh-faced, CW-friendly children so that they can pretend to be Jedi or something.

If this movie was going to be nothing but a nostalgia-laden romp starring Hamill, Fisher, Ford, the Colt 45 guy and the droids, I'd be there with freaking bells on. But I really have no interest in "a new generation" taking over. No, I'm still rather fond of the old generation, thanks. I'd like to stick with them.

Same thing happened with TDKRises, actually. I think that movie was out for about a month or something before I saw it. I'd seen every Batman movie on opening day since 1989. But TDKRises just didn't do it for me. I see SOME value in TDKRises now, sure... but even knowing what I do about TDKRises, I still wouldn't have scrambled to see it opening day.

What a long, strange journey it's been...

I understand that sentiment. I'm actually beginning to think unfavourably about TFA in some respects, and you'll hear about it all soon. It's not a terrible movie, but it's perhaps too dull and predictable for my liking. Whatever one thinks about the prequels, Lucas did bring the goods in the action department - the duels are well done, he introduced a host of new vehicles, locations and background characters. TFA lacks that, in my opinion.

TFA follows the New Hope plot line very, very closely and I could see Episode 8 evoking TESB quite a bit as well. I hope the new trilogy doesn't ape the original trilogy too much for fear of singing out of tune, thinking that's the kind of thing people want to see. When it could end up feeling like running out of new ideas.

I'd love to read George Lucas' treatment for Episode 7.

Basically, I think TFA is good but could have been better. I'm thinking the deleted scenes - and there's meant to be a number of them, could have helped.