The Dark Knight Comic Book Influences (SPOILERS)

[gordonblu]

Another comic connection that I thought of while at work tonight was the warehouse full of stacked money. In the Long Halloween, Batman and Harvey track down the mobs money and burn it to the ground. In the movie, Joker tracks down the mob's money and burns it down. "I'm only burning my half..."

[batass4880]

Another comic connection that I thought of while at work tonight was the warehouse full of stacked money. In the Long Halloween, Batman and Harvey track down the mobs money and burn it to the ground. In the movie, Joker tracks down the mob's money and burns it down. "I'm only burning my half..."

Why did the mob pay the Joker? I thought he was to be paid only if he killed Batman. Obviously that didn't happen.

[thecolorsblend]

With all love and respect to TDK, that's another of the plotholes.  It's one of those things that look cool onscreen but makes absolutely no sense upon critical review.

[TheBatMan0887]

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To me they, as the whole series in one, come off as equal overal. Listin why.

In Burton's, though they had Joker do to with his past more, they also did this rediculously to Ra's Al Ghul. This is important as most have made their mind up on hating it on this alone. Thinking on a series stand point this equalizes it I suppose. I think that he's now too big a main villain with a master vs student darth theme, that this equalizes this. It's annoying in that he replaces an important character. Your like, "this is exelent...wait...that's Ra's Al Ghul? Why trick me with this!?!". Yaknow...

Secondly, it's improvment. You may recall that if they had done it equally to the original, they could later deside that Joker could come back! Though they focuss on realism too, like keeping the chemical from making the smile and only doing the burning of pigments and dying of hair color, it was still more to the original's standpoint of realism. To me, I liked Burton's in terms of accuracy, as it realy focussed more on the original realm as like. Croc or ClayFace could appear, then it would feel more like Spider-Man film's universe in realism. So, a return of Joker story could commence on Burton's side. Those patitioners are wrong, as now this won't even happen!!! That's what they get for not trying to like both's flaws and go overboard with this Kevin Smith ordeal. Not like you need experience, just care and research at the time.

If Joker had been reinvented after a death experience, he could become alittle more grusome. I think that even Nolan's Joker was still more wild then the original jokers, they are lightly more a silent Jigsaw and/or serial killer theme with doses of outbursts. He only appeared on TVs and then went out little, whereas that Joker in Nolan's only did this to get BatMan to take off his mask. This means that both have an annoyance factor compared to the original. You know that with Jack, Heath's will also get old. With Jack it was the gags, with Heath it'll be that he talks too much. This isn't to be confused with what many comics did, where people talk things they should only have felt or thought. This is because they were narrating and explaining to readers, and that's all it is really.

EDIT: Also, people complained more on the behalf of dark knight returns or killing joke. However, he only said that he used them. Because they were focussed on putting 27-37 to film, they did not use any actual story line elements from it, only bits and peices or atmosphere. He also used some other elements from some of the latter 70's-80's comics as well.

[thecolorsblend]

With all love and respect to TDK, that's another of the plotholes.  It's one of those things that look cool onscreen but makes absolutely no sense upon critical review.

I'm taking this one back.  Is it really a plothole?  I don't think so anymore.  It was implied that the Joker forced Lau to reveal where he stashed the money (a rare wise move in a narrative sense by Nolan; it didn't need to be shown).  I forgot that Lau sat atop the mountain of cash before the Joker lit it up.  The Joker never actually satisfied his contract but what does that matter when he forced Lau to squeal?

So yeah.  I take it back.

[The Dark Knight]

Yep. That's right colors.

[BTTFSpencer]

i dont like batman begins, i actually prefer batman and robin, all i think of when i watch batman begins is brown.

[The Dark Knight]

Thanks for that....but this thread is regarding TDK comic book influences.

[DarkVengeance]

i dont like batman begins, i actually prefer batman and robin, all i think of when i watch batman begins is brown.

WOW! Someone definitly didnt eat their wheaties today!

[damiean dark]

i dont like batman begins, i actually prefer batman and robin, all i think of when i watch batman begins is brown.

Im not BB biggest fan either but all batman films have something worth watching imo (yes even B&R).