Dark Knight + B89 similarities (SPOILERS!!)

[Batfan]

This could be just because they come from the same source material but I noticed alot of what I like to think are nods to B89.

For example
-The scene with the Batpod where the Joker is saying "come on and hit me" reminded me so much of B89
-The fact that Joker falls off the building (although he is saved this time round)

If anyone noticed others please post.

[Gotham Knight]

The mob meeting scene

[The Dark Knight]

TDK greatly improves over the similar Batman (1989) moments:

In TDK, Joker refuses to move, Batman stands down adhering to his no killing policy, and swerves out of the way. In doing so, he falls off the bike and is rendered unconscious. Joker essentially ?wins? without doing a thing, and moves over to take care of Batman ? before being arrested by Gordon.

This is MUCH better than the similar Batman (1989) moment, where Batman swoops down in the Batwing and opens fire on Joker, only to be shot down. There, he looks incompetent with his missile aim (that or his equipment is faulty )and a killer ? neither which he is. He could be trying to intimidate the Joker, but I don't see him taking that risk.

In TDK, Joker falls off the building and is saved. A lot better than falling to his death, which was an epic mistake in Batman (1989)

The Joker meeting the mob in TDK is better too. The Joker's 'magic trick', where he kills a man by impaling his head on an upright pencil, is fantastic. Ledger is a joy to watch, it is as if he has electricity running through his body. I love him revealing his stash of grenades in his jacket as well. Like Nicholson said, Heath brought The Joker to another level.

[BatmAngelus]

Another "similar, but different" part was when the Joker goon tried to unmask Batman.
In B89, they almost get a peek if it weren't for Vicki Vale's flashbulb.  In The Dark Knight,, Batman has a security system that shocks the guy.

[The Dark Knight]

Ah yes, forgot that. It makes sense to have something like that. I though it was a nice upgrade for the suit.

[Azrael]

I think these moments are little nods to the film, like the "I'm Batman" scene that introduced the costumed Batman in "Begins". These similarities aren't accidental, like Zimmer's nod to Elfman's theme and the Descent into Mystery ostinato in parts of the OST.

[The Dark Knight]

Indeed. They could be little nods here and there. Though, I'm sure it can be hard not to repeat yourself now and then. The fear gas plumes at the end of Begins were suspiciously similar to the Batman (1989) finale.

[BatmAngelus]

Harvey's line...
http://www.batmanmovieonline.com/gallery.php?showpicture=192

[The Dark Knight]

Nice! I had no idea of that one.

I'd like the title for Batman 3 to incorporate some words from Harvey's quote "The night is darkest just before the dawn, I promise you, the dawn is coming". Fit dawn in there somewhere, I say. We've had 'The Dark Knight', now the skies are slowly clearing.

[Joker81]

Do you know that line 'the night is darkest before the dawn' is stole from a 1989 Batman poster,

'Justice is darkest before the dawn'

Also a scene what is similar to Batman 89 is when the Joker slides down the pyrimid of money and sets it alite. Reminds me of the Joker throwing money out to the citizens of gotham. Both Jokers do not need the money.

But I also feel this is Nolan trying to 'outdo' Burton Which is why I do not like him.

And the Dark Knight, your POV is so biased you are blinded by your own ignorance. The Dark Knight film is so average. And Heaths performance was good but not oscar worthy. He wasnt scary either. He should have looked at Gary Oldman in Leon if he wanted to play scary.

Its funny how Batman can be knocked on conscience by falling off his wee bike, yet he is unharmed after falling 100feet with rachal Dawes in his arms!!

And did you watch the film at all? Joker didnt want to kill Batman! And he wanted to be caught at this point of the film, as Joker says 'Its all part of the plan' - Batman says  later 'he wanted to be caught!'

And as for the Joker dying in Batman 89, it is a motion picture. Not to be continued. The Joker deserved to die, hence making a it a complete and in my eyes still the definitive Batman film.