Comic Book Influences on Tim Burton's Batman (1989)

[batass4880]

Also in the movie where the Joker is dumping money on the streets of Gotham to lure everybody to their death. This could have been a reference from The Dark Knight Returns where the Joker was giving free cotton candy to boy scouts that was poisoned.

[batass4880]

The Killing Joke might have had an influence on B89 in that the two Joker thugs that are standing at the door when Joker shoots Barbara Gordon, remind me of Bob and the thug who Batman has a brutal fight with in the belfry. (I wish I had a digital camera otherwise I would show you these comparisons) 

[DarkVengeance]

The Killing Joke is the most obvious out of all of the comic influences in 89, its the book Burton gave to the board at WB and told them " I want the film to look like this" for him to get the greenlight for the film.

[Joker81]

The Killing Joke is the most obvious out of all of the comic influences in 89, its the book Burton gave to the board at WB and told them " I want the film to look like this" for him to get the greenlight for the film.

No he didnt, he was already on the project working with Jon Peters and Peter Gubers who brought him on board. What got Burton the greenlight was Beetlejiuce being a hit.

[DarkVengeance]

Ya Beetlejuice was one factor, another was getting Nicholson to agree to do the film.

WHY SO SOUR?? lol you really do give me a good laugh!

[batass4880]

This one is pretty obvious but the first time in the movie when you see Batman fighting those punks on that rooftop was probably inspired by the cover of Detective Comics #27. Every time I look at that cover it reminds me of that scene as well as the movie.

[Kamdan]

This one is pretty obvious but the first time in the movie when you see Batman fighting those punks on that rooftop was probably inspired by the cover of Detective Comics #27. Every time I look at that cover it reminds me of that scene as well as the movie.

Yeah. I liked how the comic adaptation referenced it.

[Batmoney]

I love these kinds of topics. I can't believe after nearly twenty years you can still come across those people who will still make the same old ignorant and uninformed claims.

Ex. Tim Burton never read a comic book, Burton doesn't care about the comics etc.

Seriously, this film is a very pure comic film, Returns is no exception either. All the Batman films have great purity, even the semi-dreadful Batman and Robin is pretty legitimate. As a matter of fact, all you have to do is watch the special features and all indiscretion towards comic purity should be relatively null and void.

On this note, Keaton looks even closer to the original BW than I even realized originally. I'm sure it's pure coincidence, but seriously, and I'm not just saying this as a Keaton fan, that comic shot and the Keaton shot in the Batcave where he is having the day-mare about his parents death is almost a mirror image.

Great topic, and absolutely awesome references and research.

[Slash Man]

Now, you guys may or may not have mentioned this already, but I found two more points. One is probably coincidence, but the second is definately an inspiration.
1) (From Batman #1) Joker announces his sinister plans over the radio (in the movie, it's on TV)
2) (Also from Batman #1) Joker laughes it up with his victim. The way it's played out is almost identical to the movie.

[TheBatMan0887]

Actually, I thought they already did show this. The second one makes me want a section with educational scans of the full issues of #27-37 or batman #1. I can't find any of this anywhere. I'd also love to see the killing joke more fully.

BTW, I was looking around for more and was incouraged to beleave that inspiration is inspiration and influence is influence. You can look and be dissapointed if you think it means a gross panel recreation. Either it's not going to be the same, or something so small as a cameo more fuccosed with the film's story with it's main important sources and influence.

You know, I think BM has have the escuse of being more the story lines of the first BatMan issues. Merely, they pay tribute to the others by making a toned down version that fits with it. And hey, TKJ isn't that different. Again, it's small peices here and there on Nolan's too and they aren't word for word either. Multiple choice inspires the little scar stories, the plot inspires Joker creating Two-Face quite a bit and I think BatAngelus shown there is few others.

EDITED: I think that no matter what, the Burton version is another revision on the origin with the only killing joke similarity being him being smaller in the organization currently involved with. I did wish they only replied to Jack as only to the Red Hood as a nick name instead, Jack Napier is too close to Jack Nickleson.

I think that most definatly, the pictures could be unless he's been shown doing that before this.