Anyone seen The Dark Knight yet?

Started by Sandman, Thu, 17 Jul 2008, 06:47

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Fair enough. I find with Ledger's Joker, you aren't laughing at him like you were with Nicholson. With Ledger, you are laughing a nervous chuckle at his pure psychotic behaviour, and almost feel guilty for doing so.

What I love about Ledger's Joker is that he wreaks such havoc with a knife, a blade no bigger than one you use to peel an orange. He prefers the knife to a gun to "savour the moment.? When waved around by Ledger?s Joker, it is as terrifying as any other weapon in this bomb and bazooka laden movie.

omg, biased much?!  I don't recall people laughing at Nicholson when he conversed with a fried corpse, revealed Alicia's scorched face, etc.

If anything, the dark comedy aspects of the character in the comics is sadly lacking in TDK.

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Fair enough. I find with Ledger's Joker, you aren't laughing at him like you were with Nicholson.

Hummm well im just curious to what you mean by that?. Are you one of those that hate Jack's Joker?. With both Joker i saw bits that were scary and funny i laughed when heath did that pencil bit and i laughed when jack did that pen in the neck bit.

Nicholson was every bit as scary and dangerous as Heath the only difference being Ledger played it more of a scitzaphrenic at times
and Jack played it more...well like a Joker. And also what you have to that into acount is that Batman was made in 1989 and back then they couldn't pack it with violance like they can now eps in a comic book movie.

Tue, 22 Jul 2008, 05:01 #33 Last Edit: Tue, 22 Jul 2008, 05:08 by The Dark Knight
Quote from: Sandman on Tue, 22 Jul  2008, 04:14
Nicholson was every bit as scary and dangerous as Heath
I strongly disagree.


Quote from: thecolorsblend on Tue, 22 Jul  2008, 03:42
If anything, the dark comedy aspects of the character in the comics is sadly lacking in TDK.
I don?t think so. The Joker's twisting of clich?s - "I believe whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you stranger" and "Slaughter is the best medicine." Not only were these funny and disturbing at the same time, but they also showed the intelligence of the character.

I didn't think they were particularly funny or inventive.  They simply make plays-on-words, as you say, from clich?s.

"Whatever doesn't kill you really freaking hurts".


All that article does in underscore how right I am.  :)

Tue, 22 Jul 2008, 06:45 #37 Last Edit: Tue, 22 Jul 2008, 06:47 by The Dark Knight
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Tue, 22 Jul  2008, 05:22
I didn't think they were particularly funny or inventive. 
I?m not surprised. I wouldn?t expect anything less from you. The Dark Knight qualifies as the first official comic book adaptation that really succeeds in being a great artistic achievement in its own right. Nolan has gone above and beyond the call of duty, and it's obvious there was a great deal of thought and effort put into this film. It's a shame you are blinded by nostalgia of the Burton films to see it.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue, 22 Jul  2008, 06:45I?m not surprised. I wouldn?t expect anything less from you.
Easy now.  This ain't BOF, no reason to get personal.

QuoteThe Dark Knight qualifies as the first official comic book adaptation that really succeeds in being a great artistic achievement in its own right.
Have you not seen very many comics adaptations??

QuoteNolan has gone above and beyond the call of duty, and it's obvious there was a great deal of thought and effort put into this film. It's a shame you are blinded by nostalgia of the Burton films to see it.
As it happens, I wasn't a huge fan of the Burton films until about 2004 or 2005.  Up to then, I thought a happy medium between BF and B89 was the way to go.  Nostalgia has little or nothing to do with this.

Tue, 22 Jul 2008, 07:04 #39 Last Edit: Tue, 22 Jul 2008, 07:07 by The Dark Knight
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Tue, 22 Jul  2008, 06:50
The Dark Knight qualifies as the first official comic book adaptation that really succeeds in being a great artistic achievement in its own right.
Have you not seen very many comics adaptations??.

Yes, and TDK beats them all out. As a Batman fan, I instantly favour it. As a Batman fan, I'm surprised you are not impressed by TDK.