Heath Ledgers Joker

Started by Joker81, Sat, 12 Jul 2008, 21:05

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Quote from: The Joker on Thu, 31 Jul  2008, 07:39
And I doubt theres much truth in either. But that's just my own personal interpretation.
Neither. I guarantee they are both fabrications. The guy is psychotic.

Remember talk about Ledger's Joker diary? Well, here's an interesting read.
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Heath Ledger?s Joker ? no question it was an amazing performance. And if he were still with us, we could ask him about his various inspirations: what did he watch, what did he read, what did he observe, how did he inhabit his character? Well, one of the clues he left us was his Joker diary, which he kept four a months before shooting.

In it, there?s a list of what would make the Joker laugh ? including AIDS, landmines, geniuses suffering irreversible brain damage, brunch, and sombreros. ?It gave me this chill,? Grant Morrison said, because it was word-for-word what Morrison had written in one of his Batman stories.

?There?s a Batman [Batman #663, ?The Clown at Midnight?] that I did last year that hardly anyone read,? Morrison said.

As a response to his own ?Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth,? Morrison had continued his themes of the duality of Joker and the Batman in ?The Clown at Midnight.? Having established with ?Arkham? that the Joker had a sort of ?super-sanity? and that he shifted between personalities,? Morrison explored the idea further in ?The Clown at Midnight,? by showing that each time the Joker escaped, one of those new personalities would emerge.

?It?s a really good story,? Morrison said, ?but because it was prose, people didn?t want to read it.?

Except, apparently, Heath, who saw Morrison?s list and put it in his Joker diary. ?He actually had a whole list ? blind babies, doctors, accidents ? really horrible stuff,? Morrison said. ?Heath wrote it all down. So yeah, I can see there?s a lot of [?Arkham? and ?Midnight?] in his Joker.?

The filmmakers have taken great pains to acknowledge the original comics they drew from, Morrison pointed out. With those shout-outs, sales for the originals have skyrocketed ? not just for ?Arkham,? but also Alan Moore?s ?The Killing Joke,? Frank Miller?s ?Year One? and ?Dark Knight Returns,? and Jeph Loeb?s ?Long Halloween.?

?David Goyer has said they owe a debt to us,? Morrison said. ?And it?s really easy to see our influence. But at the same time, they also created something quite new and extraordinary.?

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/08/04/arkham-asylum-scribe-grant-morrison-opens-up-heath-ledgers-joker-diary/

ya TDK just read it literally 5 minutes ago via BOF via MTV  ;D  Love the story and love heath's performance. haha although it 's very cool that the joker kills people using a knife and paint their faces with white + scars , somehow I just missed the acid-spraying flower hahhaaa , well I am just nitpicking, this new method of killing is creative with a nod to how he puts simles on victims' face.... well maybe the "classic joker" from the Ol' days just have a strong imprint on many , if not all the bat fans .....that's why i think both nicholson and heath's joker are equally great to me.  ;D


I think Ledger's Joker was more layered and nuanced in my opinion.

Ledger's Joker has real dramatic power, much as Anthony Hopkins' Hannibal Lecter managed to accomplish. Beyond the creepy factor and the absence of an origin, he creates a powerful depth for the character all on his own. Take, for example, the scene where he introduces himself to the mob - there's a hint of nervousness, of fear that they won't take him at his word, the whole scene through. And perhaps even a tinge of frustration and anger at being perceived as an outsider (he has undoubtedly felt isolated his whole life, after all, and there's a reason he finds Batman to be such a kindred spirit).

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Fri,  8 Aug  2008, 11:03
Take, for example, the scene where he introduces himself to the mob - there's a hint of nervousness, of fear that they won't take him at his word, the whole scene through. And perhaps even a tinge of frustration and anger at being perceived as an outsider (he has undoubtedly felt isolated his whole life, after all, and there's a reason he finds Batman to be such a kindred spirit).
Yeah, the Joker in his first scene looks almost scared. Nervous. Almost like a shy guy trying to give a speech.

I'd like to add the scene where the detonator doesn't work. In this scene the Joker is played like a frustrated child that has his loillipop stolen (the detonator doesn't work), and then it has it given back to him (the hospital blows up).

The whole impression I have from this Joker is of a wicked and very dangerous wounded child. And this makes him scarier. (Like Whittaker's psycho dictator of Uganda in "The Last King of Scotland". A very different movie in content and tone based on real life events of course, but they are both scary because they have the mind of an angry child, and the assets to make their threats true)


Fri, 26 Sep 2008, 15:05 #96 Last Edit: Fri, 26 Sep 2008, 15:08 by raleagh
I had a family gathering last week and my sister pulled out an oil painting she had been making for me over the last few weeks. It's about 60cm x 50 cm.


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That's a really nice painting raleagh. She's very talented.

that painting is amazing!!! ;D


I have given a name to my pain, and it is BATMAN.

Something from the film I never noticed - Joker stabs Gambol's thugs who are standing over him when he's playing dead. It's cut incredibly quick, but it's there. Check it out when you get the DVD. Joker just got more grisly.