Is There a Plausible Way to Tie 'Batman Returns' to 'Batman Forever'?

[Dark Knight Detective]

Forever, to me, is like a reboot of the Batman film franchise. As for B & R, it seems like its own thing b/c Batman Forever, while it had zaniness, still had dark & serious moments, but B & R was basically just a campfest. I mean sure it tried to get at your heart at certain times (Alfred's sickness for ex.), but those scenes just don't save it. With that in mind, it's pretty hard to connect Forever w/ B & R.

[The Joker]

I kinda get what you are saying.

Batman Forever is indeed a much darker film, especially compared to that of Batman & Robin. I suppose the addition of returning cast members, Two-Face and Riddler's getups being shown as a wink to the audience, and of course the neon are the main dots that connect BF to B&R.

[The Joker]

In alot of ways, I can see how each Batman film (excluding the Nolan films), could be seen as loose sequels, and not direct sequels. Theres not a ton of things linking Batman 1989 to Batman Returns, even BR's Gotham looked alot different than in 1989. Which obviously continued with 1995's Batman Forever.

[Grissom]

I like to think of Gotham City in BR as a different place in Gotham, In B89 we got the town hall, Flugelheim Museum, main stree, crim alley etc., while in Returns we got the Plaza, Shreck building, Penguins office, Penguin's Lair etc.

[Dark Knight Detective]

The reason why Gotham looks different in Returns is b/c it was meant to resemble New York City's cleanup in the 90's (I believe), whereas the BATMAN Gotham was meant to resemble NYC in its dirty times (70's-80's from what I've read). Returns Gotham was also made to look whimsical b/c the movie took place during the holiday season. Besides what I've mentioned above, you do know that both films had different designers, right?

Forever's Gotham City in the day looks like Metropolis, Las Vegas & Tokyo at night. B & R's Gotham, in the words of Gotham Knight, was just a drug trip. I mean, there were even more unnecessary features, like gigantic statues of Greek Gods for example. Funny thing is, Barbara Ling designed these sets in both films.

[batass4880]

I always thought Forever looks more like the present day Times Square.

[Dark Knight Detective]

I always thought Forever looks more like the present day Times Square.

Times Square has lights, but it doesn't have the overdone neon that the Schumacher films have. From what I've seen & read, this Gotham is based on Las Vegas & Tokyo.

[Paul (ral)]

Part of it was shot on Wall Street

[Dark Knight Detective]

Are you talking about the scene where Bruce visits Meridian Raleagh?

[Paul (ral)]

Are you talking about the scene where Bruce visits Meridian Raleagh?

This scene I think