which bat-villains would you like to see next on film?

[riddler]

I omitted the villains shown in both series (Joker, two face, bane, catwoman). I know the next film will probably only have superman villains but which do you think should be the next bat villains to hit the big screen?

[johnnygobbs]

I omitted the villains shown in both series (Joker, two face, bane, catwoman). I know the next film will probably only have superman villains but which do you think should be the next bat villains to hit the big screen?

I was going to put in a vote for one of my favourite Bat-villains yet to be portrayed in a live-action movie, Harley Quinn but without her 'puddin' Mr. J my favourite bottle-blonde psychiatrist's presence would seem rather redundant.  Instead I picked Black Mask, another great unused villain, and two villains I'd like to see done properly onscreen (with all due respect to Jim Carrey and Arnold Schwarzenegger whose respective performances I both rather enjoyed), The Riddler and Mr. Freeze.

[The Joker]

The Penguin has been one I've been hoping to see for awhile now, and Riddler would be cool. With the end of the Nolan series, and as a result, more fantastical elements being embraced, having the shape shifting Clayface make a live action appearance would be a treat.

[johnnygobbs]

The Penguin has been one I've been hoping to see for awhile now, and Riddler would be cool. With the end of the Nolan series, and as a result, more fantastical elements being embraced, having the shape shifting Clayface make a live action appearance would be a treat.

I agree Joker.  As much as I love 'Batman Returns' I would like to see a more classical version of the Penguin portrayed in live-action.  Had the Penguin been an option I'd have certainly picked him as one of the core villains I'd like to see.

Also, I do hope Heath Ledger's legacy won't mean we that we don't get to see a new version of the Joker on-screen soon.  I'd be inclined to introduce the Joker as a pre-established villain now incarcerated at Arkham.  I'd give him limited screen-time but portray him as a consistently malevolent force ala Hannibal Lector in 'The Silence of the Lambs'.  By adding Dr Harleen Quinzel/Harley Quinn into the mix you could have a character doing his bidding in the outside world even as he remains trapped behind bars, thus demonstrating that the Joker is a wild, albeit highly cerebral, animal whose malignant affect on Gotham can never be truly caged.

[The Joker]

Yeah, I agree as well, Johnny. I wouldn't mind seeing another take on the Joker in this new shared cinematic DCU, and think excluding such a character in the Batman mythos would be a crime, but unfortunately someone succeeding the role of the Joker is probably going to go over just as well as the Affleck/Batman announcement, or hey, the Ledger/Joker announcement! Also, it could very well go more to the extreme on the negativity since there's a consensus that passionately believe Ledger's interpretation is the end all, be all to the character (Why so close-minded?).

However, the probability of such a negative outcry shouldn't, and likely won't, defer WB from including Joker back into this new cinematic universe if that decision is ever brought up. Especially if Affleck excels in the role, and ends up changing alot of people's initial reactions about his casting. Also, if Ben Affleck ends up actually directing a solo Batman film, and depending on one's viewpoint on the actor chosen, having the Joker back on the scene with a interpretation different from Ledger's, is just flat out exciting to me. And even more so with the idea of Harley appearing with him as well.   

[BatmanFanatic93]

Y'know i'm just gonna throw it out there just for the heck of it but how bout jim carrey as the joker?

[riddler]

penguin is up there. Returns is enjoyable but I agree I'd rather see a more coimic oriented Penguin.

If the joker appears, it will be in a minor role. I wouldn't mind it as a set up to Harley Quinn. They wont make him the primary villain though; as much as Nolans series leaves to be desired, they're not going to throw any credible actor to the wolves and have him attempt to better Ledger.

I liked Carreys riddler but felt that it was a missed opportunity; riddler truly challenges Batman's persona as the worlds greatest detective.

I'd much rather see a more fun approach after the ultra realism Nolan series. Sadly that would mean WB would have to embrace making a movie out of a comic book. I do think the Mad Hatter is the best villain never portrayed on the big screen. I would like to see Freeze done justice.

[The Joker]

If the joker appears, it will be in a minor role. I wouldn't mind it as a set up to Harley Quinn. They wont make him the primary villain though; as much as Nolans series leaves to be desired, they're not going to throw any credible actor to the wolves and have him attempt to better Ledger.

The goal should be, if Joker is to be re-introduced in the new DC-Cinematic Universe, is to be a completely different animal than Ledger's Joker. Much like how Ledger's Joker was different from Nicholson's (and Nicholson's from Romero's). I'm afraid the comparisons are going to be there no matter what, but I think yet another portrayal could go over well. Provided it's just as distinct and can set itself apart from the previous portrayals.

I liked Carreys riddler but felt that it was a missed opportunity; riddler truly challenges Batman's persona as the worlds greatest detective.

As it should be. The Riddler from Batman Forever was essentially the Mad Hatter in disguise.

Y'know i'm just gonna throw it out there just for the heck of it but how bout jim carrey as the joker?

As unlikely as that is, the potential for something special is certainly there. Carrey is perfectly capable of giving a great performance from what I've seen, and though he comes across as an obvious choice, much like Patrick Stewart as Prof X, it shouldn't be considered negligible.

[johnnygobbs]

penguin is up there. Returns is enjoyable but I agree I'd rather see a more coimic oriented Penguin.

If the joker appears, it will be in a minor role. I wouldn't mind it as a set up to Harley Quinn. They wont make him the primary villain though; as much as Nolans series leaves to be desired, they're not going to throw any credible actor to the wolves and have him attempt to better Ledger.

I liked Carreys riddler but felt that it was a missed opportunity; riddler truly challenges Batman's persona as the worlds greatest detective.

I'd much rather see a more fun approach after the ultra realism Nolan series. Sadly that would mean WB would have to embrace making a movie out of a comic book. I do think the Mad Hatter is the best villain never portrayed on the big screen. I would like to see Freeze done justice.

Whoops, I missed the Penguin at the bottom probably because I thought the list was in alphabetical order throughout.

My feeling is why should a new Joker be so controversial bearing in mind we're now getting a new Batman within a three year period of the last?  I realise Bale didn't win an Oscar for his performance or earn the eternal good-will of the world's cinema-goers by dying months before his Batman film was released (and I don't mean that in a snarky way because I really love Ledger's performance yet I still believe that the posthumous effect can't be entirely overlooked either).  However, for some die-hard fans, and unfortunately there are many of them, Nolan and Bale are synonymous with Batman and they're not easily going to give a new version an easy ride.  The same applied to a new Joker but like I say, I don't think it's too different a case from Batman.

Personally, if they do bring back the Joker I'd like to see the flamboyant, supercilious, seemingly educated and slightly effeminate version from 'B:TAS'.  Somebody who can turn in a second from an effete-accented man of culture to a snarling and terrifying raspy voiced bully.

[riddler]

I liked Carreys riddler but felt that it was a missed opportunity; riddler truly challenges Batman's persona as the worlds greatest detective.

As it should be. The Riddler from Batman Forever was essentially the Mad Hatter in disguise.

Definitely agree. Actually I don't know if it was discussed here but I created a topic questioning aloud if Carrey's character would have fit Jervis Tech better. I know he did leave Bruce Wayne riddles but I thought the plot was thin; if he can read minds, why does he need two face to help him steal production capital? He even implies that he can steal credit card numbers and such and seeing as how Nygmatech stock outsells Wayne Enterprises 2:1, he should be fine financially.