Ben Affleck is Batman

[Cobblepot4Mayor]

Haha poor Michael Keaton desperately trying to escape that interviewer there. Probably thinking this guy's never gonna shut up asking questions, better bail to my Wayne getaway car lol What a nice guy though to politely leave rather than just bolt away. The guy hasn't got all night to talk about Batman.

I guess he would never be one to vocally criticize Ben Affleck (especially on camera) but he must have some connection with him right now given the stupid backlash. Affleck really should give him a call to receive advice about how he too can piss off all the fans by proving them wrong. I enjoy Keaton's interviews on the first film dvd in which he takes great delight at having passed the test: "Being a great fan of irony....." Indeed!

Spotted Dave Lea myself when watching the Daredevil extras. That bar brawl near the beginning of the movie is a well choreographed and exciting fight sequence. They really should have hired him back for the Bale films because I always found those fight scenes slow and sluggish (especially the Bane fights in Dark Knight Rises). The Keaton films were always more fast paced and had fun elements to them. Of course fans lambast them for being "too fun" and "too choreographed" today compared to the "this is not a dance!" sequences of the Bale films.

[The Laughing Fish]

I found this concept art design of Affleck wearing a Batsuit similar to what Bale wore. I hope this is NOT what the costume will look like, the costume that Bale wore for the second and third movies was the worst one since the suits from Batman & Robin.



Source: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/09/04/either-this-is-real-ben-affleck-as-batman-concept-art-or-steve-scott-is-a-very-funny-guy/

[BatmAngelus]

I agree that I don't want anything like this either, but I also think it's just an artist's drawing of Affleck in the suit.  There's no way legit concept art would leak this soon or that an artist like Steve Scott would be the one to leak it.  More likely, he was just drawing what he thought Affleck would look like and wrote the "Bat Nipples" comments as a joke.

Also, Scott was "the artist behind the Dark Knight comic book adaptation?"

There wasn't a Dark Knight comic book adaptation.

[Paul (ral)]

Also, Scott was "the artist behind the Dark Knight comic book adaptation?"

There wasn't a Dark Knight comic book adaptation.

Apparently there was an adaption of the TDK prologue - it was part of the Batman Begins Limited Edition Blu-ray

[Silver Nemesis]

The cowl in that picture might be close to what we end up with. It's got the shorter ears that are synonymous with the Miller Batman. And I think they might go with a smaller gap around the mouth area in order to conceal the mole on Affleck's right cheek. He's got a mole below his left eye too, but that will be covered by the mask anyway. But if someone were to spot the mole on his cheek and note its position in relation to his chin cleft (or to use the technical term, his "chin ass") they could easily deduce he was Batman.

A better way to solve the problem might be to have Batman sport five o'clock shadow under his cowl. It might be my imagination, but I always thought Keaton had some stubble on his jaw during the finale of Batman 89. And it looked awesome. I don't know why they never did that again in any of the other movies. Five o'clock shadow would cover both Affleck's mole and his chin cleft while allowing a wider gap around his mouth. It would make him look meaner and would provide a neat visual contrast to the clean-shaven jaw of Bruce Wayne. The stubble-look worked in Jim Lee's artwork and I reckon it would work for Affleck too.

Not that the chin cleft is a problem. The Batman: The Brave and the Bold version had a prominent chin cleft too, and he was one of the best Batmen ever.

Speaking of the cowl, isn't it about time we saw Batman's white eyes from the comics? And no, the sonar lenses from TDK don't count.

[BatmAngelus]

Also, Scott was "the artist behind the Dark Knight comic book adaptation?"

There wasn't a Dark Knight comic book adaptation.

Apparently there was an adaption of the TDK prologue - it was part of the Batman Begins Limited Edition Blu-ray

This is likely what they're referring to.  Still, I find the "Dark Knight comic adaptation" description (from the number of outlets reporting it) to be misleading.

Speaking of the cowl, isn't it about time we saw Batman's white eyes from the comics? And no, the sonar lenses from TDK don't count.

What about the sonar lenses from Batman Forever?

I do have faith that Snyder will at least give us a more comic-accurate suit than the Nolan trilogy.  Hopefully, that faith won't end up being misplaced when the official costume pic gets released.

[johnnygobbs]

Silver Nemesis, how would you explain a clean-shaven Bruce Wayne and a stubbly Batman?  Simply that his facial hair grows rapidly within the space of a few hours?

[GBglide]

Speaking of the cowl, isn't it about time we saw Batman's white eyes from the comics? And no, the sonar lenses from TDK don't count.

No, eyes convey emotion. It would just make the actor's job harder.

[Silver Nemesis]

Silver Nemesis, how would you explain a clean-shaven Bruce Wayne and a stubbly Batman?  Simply that his facial hair grows rapidly within the space of a few hours?

If you had a sequence where Bruce sequestered himself in the Batcave for days on end, obsessing over a case, then he could emerge with genuine stubble on his jaw at the end of it. But if they wanted to have him sport five o'clock shadow every time he dons the cowl then he could always use makeup; similar to how he created the shadows around his eyes in the previous films, or how Selina made herself appear paler in Batman Returns. This is yet another aspect of the character that's been overlooked in all the films so far, but the Bruce in the comics is meant to be an expert at disguise. The Earth-Two Bruce studied theatre (amongst many other things) during his time at college. He was capable of making himself up to look like a completely different person, and he often utilised this skill in his war against crime.

His aptitude for cosmetics was never touched upon in the previous films (although it was referenced in the Adam West show), so maybe now would be a good time to address it.

Then again, perhaps it doesn't need to be explained. In the first issue of All-Star Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder Bruce Wayne is shown to be clean shaven while attending the circus. In the following issue, which takes place later that same evening, his jaw is coated in stubble.

It never bothered me that it wasn't explained. It just looked cool.

Speaking of the cowl, isn't it about time we saw Batman's white eyes from the comics? And no, the sonar lenses from TDK don't count.

No, eyes convey emotion. It would just make the actor's job harder.

The shape of a person's eyes convey emotion, not the colour. Unless we're talking Voight-Kampff tests, no one in the audience is going to notice barely perceptible pupillary responses in the actor's eyes. Watch the following clip from the 0:58 mark to the 1:50 mark. Do the white eyes diminish the actor's ability to convey emotion, or is it the shape of his eyes that gets across what he's feeling?

Unlike the Batman in the comics, Affleck has brown eyes (Alex Ross has drawn Batman with brown eyes, but Wayne canonically has blue peepers). Bale also has brown eyes and there were scenes in his Batman films where you could barely distinguish his eyes from the rest of the cowl.

If anything, I'd say digitally rendering Affleck's eyes white in postproduction would enhance his ability to convey emotion. It would make his eyes more visible in the darkness and would highlight their shape. It would also look creepy when he's stalking criminals in the shadows and all they can see are his eyes glaring at them from the darkness.

[johnnygobbs]

Silver Nemesis, how would you explain a clean-shaven Bruce Wayne and a stubbly Batman?  Simply that his facial hair grows rapidly within the space of a few hours?

If you had a sequence where Bruce sequestered himself in the Batcave for days on end, obsessing over a case, then he could emerge with genuine stubble on his jaw at the end of it. But if they wanted to have him sport five o'clock shadow every time he dons the cowl then he could always use makeup; similar to how he created the shadows around his eyes in the previous films, or how Selina made herself appear paler in Batman Returns. This is yet another aspect of the character that's been overlooked in all the films so far, but the Bruce in the comics is meant to be an expert at disguise. The Earth-Two Bruce studied theatre (amongst many other things) during his time at college. He was capable of making himself up to look like a completely different person, and he often utilised this skill in his war against crime.

His aptitude for cosmetics was never touched upon in the previous films (although it was referenced in the Adam West show), so maybe now would be a good time to address it.

Then again, perhaps it doesn't need to be explained. In the first issue of All-Star Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder Bruce Wayne is shown to be clean shaven while attending the circus. In the following issue, which takes place later that same evening, his jaw is coated in stubble.

It never bothered me that it wasn't explained. It just looked cool.

Just as well this is Snyder's version and not Nolan's version then.    Nolan would insist on explaining everything, although I must admit I do rather like your 'master of disguise' explanation and I wouldn't object to a brief shot of Bruce applying make-up 'camouflage paint style' around his eyes and jaw-line just before he heads off as Batman