The Kaiju/Monsterverse Thread (Kong & Godzilla)

[The Dark Knight]

I think you're right in that the film will probably end in some fashion similar, or perhaps alot like a Toho Godzilla film, where we see Godzilla slink away back to the ocean. Leaving the film with a ominous conclusion where humankind is left to wonder just when/where Godzilla will resurface.

I think that would be for the best.

I like the antihero angle as well. The Wikipedia entry for Godzilla summarises it nicely.

Although Godzilla does not like humans, it will fight alongside humanity against common threats. However, it makes no special effort to protect human life or property and will turn against its human allies on a whim.

[The Joker]

Thanks joker & it's okay we have much to do in life & hardly have time for ourselves 

& as for the bride of minya & other sruviving godzillas i don't think we have to worry about that joker cause it's possible that the 2nd minya in DAM could be a clone of the first minya i mean think about minya could have been a pre-teen when godzilla died ether from his meltdown or another cause that might have killed him & fearing that minya's loss could twist his young mind & lead him to the path of being a villian like the first godzilla in 1954 the scientists of tokyo could have cloned him a son using godzilla cells from ether minya or godzilla as there is many possible ways to obtain DNA from ether godzillas without really trying cause if i recalled in the showa films godzilla got cut & shot at that caused him shoot out alot of blood like a freaking hose not to mention there's also that one godzilla cell they found in 1954 when the scientists when to that island where godzilla first attacked & having found both cells & seas creatures from the dinosaur age.

I like the thought you put into this, and it sounds like something that could work. 

If Godzilla had enjoyed a long running comic book series, I'm talking one that started in the 70s or 80's, and was never cancelled, I could see a storyline like this being implemented.

True there are alot of interesting ways they could continue the Heisei series further into final wars as that film is claim to be a sequel to godzilla vs destoryah but there would be rather major differences to the heisei series both in tone & godzilla himself cause as we all know that JR is peaceful monster like minya from the showa series & doesn't like to fight unless the moment calls for plus he was raised by a female scientist who i forgotten her name  & the psychic miki (who by using her psychic powers understands why godzilla destroys & how he feels making the only character in all of the godzilla series close to the king) when he was born so he already imprinted them as his surrogate mothers not only that but learned that not all humans are evil something godzilla slowly learned when he adopted jr from his moms also with that in mind it the heisei series would probably would have been like the godzilla animated series following the humans abit more but also having miki or the other girl call out to jr when ether tokyo is in trouble or when they are attacked by another monsters like gigan & megalon (come on like it wouldn't have been cool to see these 2 back in the heisei series) but then again i could be wrong but it's still something to keep in mind cause of how different jr was to godzilla but regardless it would have been neat for jr to have his own series & fight monsters from the showa series.

Yeah, although I like what we got out of the Millennium era, it would have been definitely cool to have seen Jr. continue on the Heisei continuity and get a solid run as Godzilla. Just further establishing how Jr.'s personality/character differs from his pops sounds interesting enough, not to mention how the absorbing of Godzilla's radiation may have changed him as well. Just a missed opportunity thru and thru. Oh, and I'm with you on it being cool to have seen a Heisei Gigan or Megalon. To be honest, if Jr. would have received a film series, one of the monsters I would have anticipated would have been Gabara from All Montsers Attack/Godzilla's Revenge.




What a bully this beast was. 

[BatmanFanatic93]

I like the thought you put into this, and it sounds like something that could work. 

Heheh thanks joker 

If Godzilla had enjoyed a long running comic book series, I'm talking one that started in the 70s or 80's, and was never cancelled, I could see a storyline like this being implemented

Oh speaking about the comic book godzilla i'm a little confused with his origins because is this godzilla the one from the films or a different godzilla that marvel created just to have their own godzilla?

Yeah, although I like what we got out of the Millennium era, it would have been definitely cool to have seen Jr. continue on the Heisei continuity and get a solid run as Godzilla. Just further establishing how Jr.'s personality/character differs from his pops sounds interesting enough, not to mention how the absorbing of Godzilla's radiation may have changed him as well. Just a missed opportunity thru and thru. Oh, and I'm with you on it being cool to have seen a Heisei Gigan or Megalon. To be honest, if Jr. would have received a film series, one of the monsters I would have anticipated would have been Gabara from All Montsers Attack/Godzilla's Revenge.




What a bully this beast was. 

Glad we're on the same page on everything joker but as for gabara i dunno it would be weird to have him back in the Heisei series all updated & redone for continuity sake but having him as a solo villain would be off as he only picked on minya in the showa mainly cause how he was just a kid & was easy to pick on plus he hardly fights anyone his own size IE godzilla except for that moment in godzilla's revenge where gabara being a sore looser picks a fight godzilla just to be a dick so i don't see how he could fit in with JR's movies unless JR finds & adopts a minya or minilla as he is called in final wars just like how his dad found him cause that's the only way i could see him work as solo villain & being usable.

[The Joker]

Oh speaking about the comic book godzilla i'm a little confused with his origins because is this godzilla the one from the films or a different godzilla that marvel created just to have their own godzilla?

Marvel's version is definitely based on Toho's Godzilla, but there's enough differences to make Marvel's Godzilla it's own entity. As Marvel's Godzilla was later mutated just so the creature could make some more appearances following the Toho license expiring. 

Glad we're on the same page on everything joker but as for gabara i dunno it would be weird to have him back in the Heisei series all updated & redone for continuity sake but having him as a solo villain would be off as he only picked on minya in the showa mainly cause how he was just a kid & was easy to pick on plus he hardly fights anyone his own size IE godzilla except for that moment in godzilla's revenge where gabara being a sore looser picks a fight godzilla just to be a dick so i don't see how he could fit in with JR's movies unless JR will find adopts a minya or minilla as he is called in final wars cause that's the only way i could see him work as solo villain & being usable.

That's the beauty of a different continuity/timeline, you don't have to adhere exactly to the previous incarnation. With Gabara, there's definitely room for improvement, and it would be interesting to see the monster as an living, breathing, threat; rather than simply appearing in the dreams of a child bullying Minya. But yeah, I always considered Gabara to be Minya's arch-nemesis during the Showa timeline. As it's evident Gabara has quite a distaste, and thoroughly enjoys bullying Minya around. An actual epic battle between the two, even in a different timeline, would have been satisfying to see. Course, if they wanted to keep Gabara in dreamland, he could be re-interpreted as a Freddy Krueger-like monster Jr. would have to deal with. Which definitely has possibilities.

[BatmanFanatic93]

Marvel's version is definitely based on Toho's Godzilla, but there's enough differences to make Marvel's Godzilla it's own entity. As Marvel's Godzilla was later mutated just so the creature could make some more appearances following the Toho license expiring. 

...well played marvel well played. 

if they wanted to keep Gabara in dreamland, he could be re-interpreted as a Freddy Krueger-like monster Jr. would have to deal with. Which definitely has possibilities.

Huh i guess that could work but i wonder how they'll kill him off though 

[The Joker]

Huh i guess that could work but i wonder how they'll kill him off though 

If we're talking keeping Gabara as a dream monster, they could always use the old "lure the beast out into the real world" technique, or perhaps have Jr.'s behavior become erratic on a whim, which is eventually revealed to be caused by Jr. battling Gabara for control of his body in his mind, eventually forcing Gabara out. Or ... use some sort of plot device that allows the idea of Gabara being subdued/contained within Jr.'s subconscious. Thus imprisoned in Jr.'s psyche, but of course, not completely dead. Kinda like what Marvel does with a villainous Hulk incarnation within Banner's mind. 

[BatmanFanatic93]

Joker my friend you are a genius with these plots  but y'know talking about jr's own movie series is alot of fun wanna keep talking about more sequels? 

[The Joker]

LOL I know other people can come up with better stuff than my simple plots.   

Sure, but might have to wait till this weekend. Got a few long days ahead of me now.   

[BatmanFanatic93]

Well okay in the mean time i'll post this when you come back joker 

-JR'S MOVIES-
Godzilla vs megalon remake (just to have both megalon,gigan,& jet jaguar together again both updated & redone)
Godzilla vs hedorah remake (we need to see more of this creature)
Godzilla vs bagan (just an excuse to have a super godzilla movie  )
Godzilla vs mechagodzilla 3 (basically it's mechagodzilla 2 but was rebuilt by a an evil race of aliens from planet X that wanna take control of earth & kill godzilla OH & mechagodzilla 2 also resembles the original mechagodzilla from the showa just more alien-like since it was rebuilt)
Godzilla vs mecha-kong (kinda obvious  )
Godzilla on monster island (just a fun movie where Jr befriends other toho monsters from the showa series  )
Destroy all monsters remake (except more focus on the monsters  )

[The Joker]

Whenever you get the time, you should do some mock photoshop poster's of Godzilla Jr. Heisei movies.

Could be fun. Just sayin'.