The Kaiju/Monsterverse Thread (Kong & Godzilla)

[BatmanFanatic93]

Hey joker i love godzilla so much that if they switched the roars around like give godzilla 2000's roar to godzilla 90's of course i'm gonna nitpick for continuity sake & love for my hero/villain however that's my main grip with the entire godzilla series cause they never explain where the second godzilla came from or anguirus or hell even baby godzilla cause through out all the godzilla movies from the showa to Millennium series they find a godzilla egg,they say it's related to godzilla yet it's not biological son...am i missing something here?Where do these eggs come from?Is there a mamazilla who's loosing her eggs or are they just random eggs that appear out of nowhere?

[BatmanFanatic93]

Oh & as for the godzilla game i think it's cool that you at least played the nes godzilla game which was "godzilla : monster of monsters" am i correct??Anyways i strongly consider you playing other godzilla games cause they have so much to offer & some of some of them take place after or between movies plus there are a few where you can play as the showa godzilla from the 50's-70 like for example here are some godzilla games i reccomend to buy or download for godzilla's sake 

Godzilla: Destroy All Monsters for snes
now this was never released in america for whatever reason even though nintendo power put in their top games soon to be released & can only be played on the super famicon aka the japanese version of the snes however if you can't afford to buy a famicon or snes or the game itself you can always download a snes emulator for free on any website & along with roms from rom websites.The game itself is a Tournament fighter with mostly all the toho  monsters from the godzilla movies such as Anguirus,King Ghidorah,Gigan,Mechagodzilla,Biollante,Mothra,& Mechagodzilla 2 & it's fun game but it's kinda hard but once you get use to the control & know to do combos your good. 


Godzilla: Trading Battle for the Playstation
This is a weird one but creative,First off this has all of the toho monsters from every godzilla movie & non-godzilla movie but it's not a Tournament fighter but a card game/boardgame kinda like pokemon or yu-gi-oh mixed in with monopoly & note this game also has zilla in it making the second godzilla game to have zilla playable the other one is Godzilla Generations which you can only play as godzilla & destroy buildings anyways if you like games that involve strategies & thinking with godzilla in the mix then this is for you.

Godzilla: Domination for the Game Boy Advance
This game is fuuun i had so much playing game as a kid & even now it's still holds up today...well for me at least however there a minor differences between the american & the japanese version cause for one the japanese version has the Millennium version of godzilla,mothra,&mechagodzilla who are godzilla 2000 from tokyo sos cause of the scar on godzilla's chest,mechagodzilla 3 from godzilla x mechagodzilla & godzilla tokoy sos,& mothra who i assume is from gmk cause of her color pattern but besides that the game is a Tournament fighter & is really fun i won't ruin the story for you cause it'll reveal who's the badguy but trust me it's a shocker 

Godzilla: Destroy All Monsters Melee for Gamecube & Xbox
Now the trailer for this game is awesome you gotta look it up & the game itself it fun too although the japanese version always has the best stuff but none the less the game is fun & is a Tournament fighter plus you can play with 4 other players for a real showdown or team up 

Godzilla: Save the Earth Playstation 2 & Xbox
Okay this where godzilla games were starting to get better both in combat & controls also with this game it allows you to play as more monsters along with mini games,cinematic shots,& concept art & posters for godzilla final wars 

Godzilla: Unleashed for the wii & ps2
STAY AWAY FROM THE PS2 VERSION IT'S A JUST REHASH VERSION OF GODZILLA SAVE THE EARTH BUT WITH THINGS TAKEN OUT THAT MADE GODZILLA SAVE THE EARTH THE BEST & ADDED LOCATIONS!!!...anyways i reccomend the wii version cause despite the ps2 the wii version has alot more to offer both in gameplay & monsters plus they even added more showa monsters including godzilla 1954 

[The Joker]

Hey joker i love godzilla so much that if they switched the roars around like give godzilla 2000's roar to godzilla 90's of course i'm gonna nitpick for continuity sake & love for my hero/villain however that's my main grip with the entire godzilla series cause they never explain where the second godzilla came from or anguirus or hell even baby godzilla cause through out all the godzilla movies from the showa to Millennium series they find a godzilla egg,they say it's related to godzilla yet it's not biological son...am i missing something here?Where do these eggs come from?Is there a mamazilla who's loosing her eggs or are they just random eggs that appear out of nowhere?

Yeah, it's an interesting question for sure. I know some fans have theorized that Minya could have been the offspring of species that were very similar to Godzilla, OR that he could have actually been the biological son of Godzilla. In that the original 1954 Godzilla was the female, and the 1955 GRA Godzilla, the male. If that's the case, it begs the question as to why the Minya egg took so long to hatch, but it's also worth pointing out that Minya, evidently, suffered from stunted growth, as he was still the same size in the 'future 1999' in "Destroy All Monsters". Which, chronologically, took place decades after his birth hatch. Perhaps giving something of an explanation for the delayed hatching from the egg.

No idea about where Godzilla Jr. came from in the Heisei era. Especially with all the changes with time/continuity that took place in "King Ghidorah". Because, if I am not mistaken, they basically erased Godzilla 1985 from ever having taken place....

Also, thanks for the info on the Godzilla games. I'll definitely have to check them out at some point. I remember The Angry Video Game Nerd did a humorous video going over the numerous Godzilla games, and pointing out that the latter ones were actually ... GOOD!   

[BatmanFanatic93]

Oh boy get ready for a little history lesson joker about the godzilla timeline  by your pal batman

Okay so as well already know that the Heisei era is a direct sequel to the first godzilla movie made in 1954 ignoring all the sequels that came after it so now that's established we can assume everything is fine & dandy & that godzilla still a force to be reckon with right?Well not quite cause when godzilla vs king ghidorah came out in 1991 the film alter godzilla's history greatly by removing him when the atom bomb hit on Hiroshima & nagaski in ww2 & replacing him with 3 cute little dorats who unfortunately get fused together by the bombing & end up becoming forever known as king ghidorah.Now since king ghidorah replaced godzilla in the timeline many fans speculate & analyze that godzilla was not truly removed from history cause during the film the heroes discuss about creating another godzilla by using nuclear bombs where the dinosaur was teleported when they removed him from lagas island in order to reborn godzilla BUT little that they know that the area where they transported godzilla had nuclear waste thanks to destoryed submarines & thus godzilla was reborn but there is a slight drawback since godzilla never appeared in 1954 it's safe to say that it took godzilla years to develop fully due to the lack of nuclear power around him & when the nuclear sub that was to resurrect him came it ended up powering up & making him more bigger & stronger hence why he towered the powerlines when came across him where in 1954 he was half their size.


Oh & as for minya i have theory about him being in the year 2000 in destory all monsters & being the same size
as he was in son of godzilla along with his parents.

Okay in son of godzilla it's clear that minya was born permaturely but survived his outcome even though he may have suffered abit of brain damage thanks to the Kamacuras & godzilla hitting his head when he walks away but despite all that he manages to grow up later thanks to godzilla's radiation & possibily the furit around the island & ends up impriniting godzilla as his father.Now for an explanation to where minya came from & who his biological parents are...okay from my years trying to find a link to where minya came i have came across a theory of mine that might explain where minya came from  & who his parents are like you said the godzilla that appeared in 1954 could have been a female & that the godzilla that appeared in 55 could have been the male however while that could be ture there is was one little error since godzilla is basically a descendant of t-rex there was always differences between male & female t-rexes like for example scientist have proven that the females was always bigger than male t-rex making them more threating than the male although the male was more agressive than the female anyways if we take that into account & compare the sizes between the 2 godzilla we'd see that they're both the same size with minor differences such dorsal fins & body weight but regardless it's possible that both are males.But even though it's nice theory about the 2 godzilla it isn't possible that any of them are females but let's not let that stop us cause heres another theory even though godzilla vs king ghidorah is part of a different timeline it does add details to godzilla's backstory & what he was before he was mutated & that is he was originally a dinosaur known as a godzillasaurs & in the film one of the vets mention that godzilla wasn't protecting this conrads during the war & that he was merely protecting his homeland from the soilders invading it.Now let's think about that for a moment he was godzillasaurs that was protecting his home from predators now doesn't seem a little off?Usually male t-rex's often protect their home ether from other t-rexs or when their mate is with their eggs in the nest so it possible there could have been more than one godzilla's 2 males & a female & that when bomb hit their home the female died but one of their eggs ( the surviving one) were swept away by ocean but still forming slowly thanks to radiation & after one of the godzillas became a godzilla he must have heard the cry of the baby from the egg & took it a island where it had a volcano to incubate & keep safe from harms way....what do you think joker? 

[The Joker]

Oh boy get ready for a little history lesson joker about the godzilla timeline  by your pal batman

Awesome! 

Okay so as well already know that the Heisei era is a direct sequel to the first godzilla movie made in 1954 ignoring all the sequels that came after it so now that's established we can assume everything is fine & dandy & that godzilla still a force to be reckon with right?Well not quite cause when godzilla vs king ghidorah came out in 1991 the film alter godzilla's history greatly by removing him when the atom bomb hit on Hiroshima & nagaski in ww2 & replacing him with 3 cute little dorats who unfortunately get fused together by the bombing & end up becoming forever known as king ghidorah.Now since king ghidorah replaced godzilla in the timeline many fans speculate & analyze that godzilla was not truly removed from history cause during the film the heroes discuss about creating another godzilla by using nuclear bombs where the dinosaur was teleported when they removed him from lagas island in order to reborn godzilla BUT little that they know that the area where they transported godzilla had nuclear waste thanks to destoryed submarines & thus godzilla was reborn but there is a slight drawback since godzilla never appeared in 1954 it's safe to say that it took godzilla years to develop fully due to the lack of nuclear power around him & when the nuclear sub that was to resurrect him came it ended up powering up & making him more bigger & stronger hence why he towered the powerlines when came across him where in 1954 he was half their size.

Thanks for posting that. Yeah, I can't say I am hardcore fanatic with the Heisei films, as I am with the Showa era. Which is pretty much due to the simple fact of having grown up watching one series, and not being able to see the other until I was well into my teenage years. Here's a question, with the timeline being altered in such a way, does that result in Biollante being erased from the Heisei timeline?

Oh & as for minya i have theory about him being in the year 2000 in destory all monsters & being the same size
as he was in son of godzilla along with his parents.

Okay in son of godzilla it's clear that minya was born permaturely but survived his outcome even though he may have suffered abit of brain damage thanks to the Kamacuras & godzilla hitting his head when he walks away but despite all that he manages to grow up later thanks to godzilla's radiation & possibily the furit around the island & ends up impriniting godzilla as his father.Now for an explanation to where minya came from & who his biological parents are...okay from my years trying to find a link to where minya came i have came across a theory of mine that might explain where minya came from  & who his parents are like you said the godzilla that appeared in 1954 could have been a female & that the godzilla that appeared in 55 could have been the male however while that could be ture there is was one little error since godzilla is basically a descendant of t-rex there was always differences between male & female t-rexes like for example scientist have proven that the females was always bigger than male t-rex making them more threating than the male although the male was more agressive than the female anyways if we take that into account & compare the sizes between the 2 godzilla we'd see that they're both the same size with minor differences such dorsal fins & body weight but regardless it's possible that both are males.But even though it's nice theory about the 2 godzilla it isn't possible that any of them are females but let's not let that stop us cause heres another theory even though godzilla vs king ghidorah is part of a different timeline it does add details to godzilla's backstory & what he was before he was mutated & that is he was originally a dinosaur known as a godzillasaurs & in the film one of the vets mention that godzilla wasn't protecting this conrads during the war & that he was merely protecting his homeland from the soilders invading it.Now let's think about that for a moment he was godzillasaurs that was protecting his home from predators now doesn't seem a little off?Usually male t-rex's often protect their home ether from other t-rexs or when their mate is with their eggs in the nest so it possible there could have been more than one godzilla's 2 males & a female & that when bomb hit their home the female died but one of their eggs ( the surviving one) were swept away by ocean but still forming slowly thanks to radiation & after one of the godzillas became a godzilla he must have heard the cry of the baby from the egg & took it a island where it had a volcano to incubate & keep safe from harms way....what do you think joker? 

That's a valid theory for sure, especially when blending the two timelines together. I just never seem prone to want to do that due to the Heisei era ignoring so much material with GRA thru Terror of MechaGodzilla, which includes Minya's introduction.
Also, during the Showa era, there never really was a defintive answer to actually WHAT Godzilla is. For all we knew, Godzilla could have been an evolutionary hybrid. The Heisei series gave a more direct answer to this, but not so much with the Showa era. Which just provided theories, and nothing concrete. I think your theory with the son works very effectively with the Heisei era, and I can accept that. With the Showa era, I just tend to gravitate towards the '54 female Godzilla/'55 male Godzilla coupling and Minya actually being the biological son theory due to not being much on the the little tyke being so similar to his old man, and the would-be subtle nod to the film Rodan. Which featured both male and female mutated pterosaur's. With the male, like Godzilla, continuing onward.

[BatmanFanatic93]

It's like this joker since king ghidorah is both from the future & past he can't really exist in both timelines so if king ghidorah is killed by godzilla who is around both timelines as well thanks to the time travelers then godzilla's timeline is restored making the monster that appeared in 1954 godzilla not king ghidorah thus erasing everything that was changed back to order. 

Well there is bound be to a little mess up every now & then in both eras joker my friend i mean if you want want to believe that the 2 godzilla's from 54 & 55 were male & female & are the parents of minya then that's cool i accept that it's neat idea however it really changes the title for godzilla in 54 cause if the first godzilla was a female then the subtitle for the movie should be "Godesszilla : Queen of the monsters" or "Bride of godzilla"  & as for the rodans i never thought of it that way how there 2 of them & they're both parents so i guess the idea could apply for the 2 godzilla's as well.

[The Joker]

It's like this joker since king ghidorah is both from the future & past he can't really exist in both timelines so if king ghidorah is killed by godzilla who is around both timelines as well thanks to the time travelers then godzilla's timeline is restored making the monster that appeared in 1954 godzilla not king ghidorah thus erasing everything that was changed back to order. 

Hmm, alright. That's actually pretty cool, especially in terms of the 1954 Godzilla being restored, as that has been a constant throughout the Toho films, is that the 1st appearance of Godzilla begins in 1954. Evidently, the 2014 Legendary film is keeping this going as well. Which is very cool.

Well there is bound be to a little mess up every now & then in both eras joker my friend i mean if you want want to believe that the 2 godzilla's from 54 & 55 were male & female & are the parents of minya then that's cool i accept that it's neat idea however it really changes the title for godzilla in 54 cause if the first godzilla was a female then the subtitle for the movie should be "Godesszilla : Queen of the monsters" or "Bride of godzilla"  & as for the rodans i never thought of it that way how there 2 of them & they're both parents so i guess the idea could apply for the 2 godzilla's as well.

If a female Godzilla is to be called Godesszilla, would that mean a female Godzillasaurus should have a variant feminesque name as well?   

Also, really no point in retconning the "King of the Monsters" subtitle, since A. it's a nice moniker, though should just be taken as nothing but a jab towards King Kong as no other monsters appear or are referenced, B. If we're looking at this literally, humans only had theories to Godzilla's origins anyways, and C. the americanization of Godzilla, which gave us the "King of the Monsters" title, also gave us the renaming of "Gigantis" as well. Which was nearly just going to be the "Volcano Monsters" at one point. So given that the americanization process can't even get the name and respect right, the idea that the assumption on the gender being wrong, isn't completely out of the question.

[BatmanFanatic93]

If a female Godzilla is to be called Godesszilla, would that mean a female Godzillasaurus should have a variant feminesque name as well?   

Nah same name still applies when comes to being a godzillasaurs mainly cause if we did that then we would have to come with female name equivalents for the other toho monsters that have 2 of the same species & that'll be a pain in the ass  let's just stick with godesszilla for the moment kay?

Also, really no point in retconning the "King of the Monsters" subtitle, since A. it's a nice moniker, though should just be taken as nothing but a jab towards King Kong as no other monsters appear or are referenced, B. If we're looking at this literally, humans only had theories to Godzilla's origins anyways, and C. the americanization of Godzilla, which gave us the "King of the Monsters" title, also gave us the renaming of "Gigantis" as well. Which was nearly just going to be the "Volcano Monsters" at one point. So given that the americanization process can't even get the name and respect right, the idea that the assumption on the gender being wrong, isn't completely out of the question.

Agreed & when you have time wanna do a podcast about godzilla?Since we know alot about godzilla i thought it be cool if we webchat & talk about godzilla & the upcoming film.

[The Joker]

Agreed & when you have time wanna do a podcast about godzilla?Since we know alot about godzilla i thought it be cool if we webchat & talk about godzilla & the upcoming film.

Could be fun I guess. Here lately my schedule often doesn't leave me with alot of net time. We'll see.

Been meaning to post this, but does anyone else kinda miss reading those outlandish (to say the very least)!, but completely hilarious headlines on the covers of those Weekly World News newspaper when having to stand in line at a grocery/retail store checkout aisle?




Classic. 

[BatmanFanatic93]

I swear i gotta add some more clippings for my scrapbook but there's hardly anything worth adding now & days but damn i wish i had a printer cause i would soo add that little headline 
Hey joker listen i wanna say thanks for contributing to this thread & being a great friend cause most of my friends i've know for years are hardly ever on anymore & it gets lonesome being online with no one to talk & your the only friend i speak to alot whenever your on but anyways like i said thanks for adding all these amazing stuff & being a great friend.