Man of Steel

Started by Grissom, Tue, 15 Jan 2013, 16:00

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Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 21 Jul  2013, 06:45Although Bale can be excellent actor in the right roles such as in American Psycho, Rescue Dawn and The Fighter - I thought his portrayals as Batman would have to be his worst performance of his career by far. But thankfully that's in the past now.
I thought he killed it in The Prestige. The entire movie rocked my socks but Bale really was a highlight.

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 21 Jul  2013, 06:45Anyway, Goyer mentioned that Zod's death will not be swept under the carpet in the sequel.
Source: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=83780
Maybe the whiners will settle down then. This won't get pushed aside and forgotten about... you know, like it did in Superman II, Superman IV and Singerman.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sun, 21 Jul  2013, 07:00
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 21 Jul  2013, 06:45Although Bale can be excellent actor in the right roles such as in American Psycho, Rescue Dawn and The Fighter - I thought his portrayals as Batman would have to be his worst performance of his career by far. But thankfully that's in the past now.
I thought he killed it in The Prestige. The entire movie rocked my socks but Bale really was a highlight.

I liked The Prestige too - it's one of the few Nolan films I can stand. That being said, I thought Hugh Jackman and Michael Caine both stole the show. Bale was competent but didn't impress too much. Although my favourite scene of him would have to be where he gets his hand shot off by Jackman in disguise at a bar, while everybody else laughs and drink.  ;D

A thought just occurred to me - since the upcoming sequel will be inspired by The Dark Knight Returns, I hope it doesn't mean they'll be stupid enough to hire an older actor to play Batman.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

If the idea is to use this as a springboard to reboot Batman, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they don't hire someone who's roughly contemporary to Cavill. It's not like I have some kind of special, insider connection but I just can't picture them casting Clint Eastwood in the role.

Yep. I see them casting someone in their 30s. The whole point would be Superman has started out, and Batman pretty much has as well. They don't know who each other are and meet.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sun, 21 Jul  2013, 07:51
If the idea is to use this as a springboard to reboot Batman, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they don't hire someone who's roughly contemporary to Cavill. It's not like I have some kind of special, insider connection but I just can't picture them casting Clint Eastwood in the role.
Agreed.  I wouldn't mind someone a few years younger than Cavill to be honest.  I prefer it when Bruce Wayne is presented as a callow, seemingly shallow young playboy in contrast to Superman/Clark's more soulful, serious character.  MOS did a particularly good job of presenting Clark as a substantial, melancholy character in the scenes of him as a peripatetic drifter and it would be interesting to contrast that with a Bruce who initially comes across as a spoiled, arrogant punk.  Also, if Batman is somehow going to go up against Superman at some stage it makes no sense to further disadvantage the non-superpowered Batman by portraying him as a much older and presumably less physically adept older man.
Johnny Gobs got ripped and took a walk off a roof, alright? No big loss.

I would prefer Batman to be maybe 2 or 3 years older than Superman.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun, 21 Jul  2013, 08:03
I would prefer Batman to be maybe 2 or 3 years older than Superman.

Definitely a world weary Batman to contrast the naive/optimistic Superman.

I don't want to see the conflict from The Dark Knight Returns between them...but I think if the filmmakers are smart they can bring in the dynamic (a clash of ideals) from DKR whilst still having them be allies.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun, 21 Jul  2013, 07:57Yep. I see them casting someone in their 30s. The whole point would be Superman has started out, and Batman pretty much has as well. They don't know who each other are and meet.
Pretty much. I think it's implied in MOS that there are no other superheroes out there yet. That makes Superman the first... which is fine by me.

Quote from: Paul (ral) on Sun, 21 Jul  2013, 09:11
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun, 21 Jul  2013, 08:03
I would prefer Batman to be maybe 2 or 3 years older than Superman.

Definitely a world weary Batman to contrast the naive/optimistic Superman.

I don't want to see the conflict from The Dark Knight Returns between them...but I think if the filmmakers are smart they can bring in the dynamic (a clash of ideals) from DKR whilst still having them be allies.
Exactly. And nor do I want to see an angry, adversarial match-up here. The World's Finest animated movie was pretty much perfect. Both of them having a rivalry but not full blown war. Batman leaving the tracking device on Clark and spying on him from across the skyscrapers before waving and running away, for example.

Quote from: Paul (ral) on Sun, 21 Jul  2013, 09:11
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun, 21 Jul  2013, 08:03
I would prefer Batman to be maybe 2 or 3 years older than Superman.

Definitely a world weary Batman to contrast the naive/optimistic Superman.

I don't want to see the conflict from The Dark Knight Returns between them...but I think if the filmmakers are smart they can bring in the dynamic (a clash of ideals) from DKR whilst still having them be allies.

Perhaps you could have Batman showing his cynicism by clashing with Superman's willingness to reveal his identity to the military, and warning him it could possibly backfire against him if a corrupt official uses that information to make Superman their pawn.

I wonder if that Bat-insignia is the final product, or will they redesign it? If they don't use the Arkham games as an inspiration for the Batsuit design, I wouldn't mind if they used something like Earth One, but with longer ears.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei