Man of Steel

[johnnygobbs]

The film has only got 66% on Rotten Tomatoes so far.     That's less than either of the Burton Batman movies.

Has Nolan lost his touch/fallen out of favour with the critics?  Are the fanboys up in arms over the reviews/threatened any critics yet?

[Paul (ral)]

One particular fanboy gave it an A.

[johnnygobbs]

One particular fanboy gave it an A.

Are you referring to yourself Ral?  I would never call you a 'fanboy', especially not a Nolan fanboy.

[Paul (ral)]

Nope not me. 8/10 is a B to me. I liked the film, I think it's hugely important for the future of DCU movies but I really don't think anyone can give it an A if they are being truthful. Think harder...

[johnnygobbs]

Nope not me. 8/10 is a B to me. I liked the film, I think it's hugely important for the future of DCU movies but I really don't think anyone can give it an A if they are being truthful. Think harder...

I hope to see the film next week.  I must admit, the trailers had got me pretty excited to see this film and I have had high expectations so I hope nobody mistakes my last few posts for schadenfreude, but I do wonder if in view of the generally middling, although by no means bad, reviews so far whether the same fanboys who proclaimed that this would be another victory for Nolan and Goyer will acknowledge their part in the film's shortcomings or will they heap all the blame on Zack Snyder (my personal belief is that if this film was universally adored by critics Nolan/Goyer would be getting the praise, whereas if this film had been attacked by critics Snyder would be getting all the vitriol).

Anyway, I hope at least that 'Man of Steel' is superior to 'Superman Returns' despite the 'Man of Steels' (so-far) inferior Rotten Tomatoes rating.

[The Joker]

Anyway, I hope at least that 'Man of Steel' is superior to 'Superman Returns' despite the 'Man of Steels' (so-far) inferior Rotten Tomatoes rating.

I'm glad I don't put too much stock in the RT scoring meter. Johnny, I believe we've had conversations about Superman Returns in the past, and if that's the case, you might recall my opinion on SR. That being said, I just cannot even comprehend the idea of MOS being a lesser movie than SR.

[johnnygobbs]

Anyway, I hope at least that 'Man of Steel' is superior to 'Superman Returns' despite the 'Man of Steels' (so-far) inferior Rotten Tomatoes rating.

I'm glad I don't put too much stock in the RT scoring meter. Johnny, I believe we've had conversations about Superman Returns in the past, and if that's the case, you might recall my opinion on SR. That being said, I just cannot even comprehend the idea of MOS being a lesser movie than SR.

I was going to say that 'SR's' RT score was absurdly high but I don't quite dislike the film as much as you and I do remember half-enjoying it when I first saw the movie on its theatrical release.  In retrospect my opinion on the film has sharply dropped but I don't think it's a complete calamity as many of the posters on this forum do.

Still, I agree that MOS must surely be a better film than SR.  I also suspect that many of those critics who praised SR back in 2006 have probably had second thoughts since which might also explain why praise for MOS has been so reserved.  Nobody wants to make the same mistake again.

[The Joker]

I remember the only critic review of SR I read was Roger Ebert's (RIP), pretty much the only critic I halfway paid any sort of attention to, and there wasn't a whole lot of love for the film there. But yeah, I remember alot of praise for SR during it's release, and just did not see what they were seeing apparently.

[johnnygobbs]

I remember the only critic review of SR I read was Roger Ebert's (RIP), pretty much the only critic I halfway paid any sort of attention to, and there wasn't a whole lot of love for the film there. But yeah, I remember alot of praise for SR during it's release, and just did not see what they were seeing apparently.

I don't want to tempt any negative comments regarding the late great Roger Ebert but what did you make of his Batman and Batman Returns reviews The Joker?  There wasn't a whole lot of love for them from Ebert either.

[The Dark Knight]

One thing I don't like the sound of is the film being almost humourless. It is perfectly fine to take your material seriously, but for Superman to lack heart is a darn shame. It seems like they still haven't got Superman right, but they're moving in the right direction.