Schumacher and Batman 5

Started by shadowbat69, Thu, 1 Nov 2007, 23:33

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Good topic i only learned about schumachers batman 5 not that long ago and it seemed pretty interesting and even though i liked batman forever (though it was no where near as great as the first 2 were) i hated batman and robin so i wasn't sure if it would turn out good or not so i looked up as much on it as i could and as people have said it was meant to go back to the darkness of the first 2 and  also have scarecrow and harley quinn i really hated nolans 'realistic' scarecrow so this one prob would have had an intire scarecrow suit like most the villans did in the burton/schumacher movies  instead of just a lame potatoe sack and would have really intense fear scene as said before so i would have liked to seen it but hey i guess we will never know anyway heres a little of the trivia for you's i thought you might like:

Steve Buscemi was considered for the role of the scarecrow.

Clooney was going to reprise his role as Batman prior to the film's cancellation.

Brad Dourif was considered for the role of the scarecrow.

Robert Englund was considered for the role of the scarecrow.

Jeff Goldblum was considered for the role of the scarecrow.

Jeremy Irons was considered for the role of the scarecrow.

Christopher Lloyd was considered for the role of the scarecrow.

Madonna was reportedly going to play Harley Quinn, who would be the Joker's daughter rather than his lover.

Jenny McCarthy was considered for the role of Harley Quinn.

Jack Nicholson was to reprise his role as the Joker - resurrected as a hallucination in Batman's mind. The fim was cancelled.

Chris O'Donnell was going to reprise his role as Robin, prior to the film's cancellation.

Kurt Russell was considered for the role of batman.

Joel Schumacher was signed on to direct prior to the films cancellation.

Howard Stern was seriously considered for a role prior to the films cancellation.

Jennifer Tilly was considered for the role of Harley Quinn.


For some reason, I believe Schumacher's Batman 5 would have turned out alot better than B&R. Even if B&R was more welcomed than it actually came to be at the box office, I would certainly like to think Joel and company would have had the sense to say, "Ok, this direction worked. But it's time to guide this franchise back towards it's roots".

Plus, just seeing Jack reprising The Joker would have made the film a instant "Must See" with me.  ;D
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Plus, just seeing Jack reprising The Joker would have made the film a instant "Must See" with me.  ;D
I sort of feel they would have been putting the Joker in it for the sake of it, which is no way to go.

The script for the batman 5 movie is meant to be floating around somewhere on the internet but i can't find it might just be a rumour.

Steve Buscemi as the Scarecrow... never thought of that. B-TAS's Crane actually looks like him. Great casting thought there! Would have probably worked really well.

Also, Christopher Lloyd is an actor I would have really loved to see in a Burton film.
The Riddler, Scarecrow or Mr. Freeze - all characters that would work with him. So again, great casting choice.

Kurt Russel as Batman would definitely be unusual. Maybe he would have acted out Batman similar to Snake Pliskin.

Also, I remember there was an article back in 1997 / 1998, where it said Marilyn Manson was rumored to portrait the part of The Scarecrow.

Your probably right about Marilyn Manson theres heaps of people that have been rumoured to be playing different roles. At first i kinda liked the idea of Jeff Goldblum but like you that changed when i found out about Steve Buscemi theres just somthing about him that seems right same, for Christopher Lloyd but i think i would also liked to have seen him as the riddler. Mr Frezze was one i always hoped to see in a Burton batman hopefully played by Patrick Stward ;D. Kurt Russell i would have liked to have seen as batman instead of George Clooney returning a more aggressive as you said Snake Pliskin type batman would have worked better with a more darker setting for me its a toss up for Russell version of batman between Snake Pliskin or his Wyatt Earp. As for Harley Quinn i got no clue.

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I would have definately paid to see "Batman:The Triumphant". Seriously with all jokes aside. I think Schumacher would have done a great job with his third installment. He had obviously learned his lesson with B&R, so I'm sure he would have made the new film darker.

The Scarecrow could have been a major villain. Nolan did water down the character a bit. If I could remember correctly the scarecrow wore a hat and had his own pet, crow. I think that Schumacher would have used_whoever, to bring that Batman villain to life.

Personally I always thought Johnny Depp would be perfect for the Scarecrow role. Then again, I think Jeff Goldblum would have been good as The Scarecrow.
"Jack is dead my friend. You can call me, Joker. And, as you can see, I'm a lot happier."

Yeah, if B & R wasn't a bat-bomb and Shumacher did another one, the series would die with the not so aptly titled Batman Triumphant.

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It was actually stated that Clooney and O'donnell would reprise their roles because they were contracted for another film. "Batman Triumphant" was actually written before B&R was even released. The only real reason it never got off the ground was because of B&R's poor reception.

Yes thats true it talk's about it in this:
"Warner Bros. hired Mark Protosevich to write a script for the fifth Batman film, titled Batman Triumphant,  even before the theatrical release of Batman & Robin. Joel Schumacher, George Clooney, and Chris O?Donnell were still contracted for another film. The Scarecrow was to be the main villain and through the use of his fear gas, Scarecrow would cause Batman to confront his worst fear: the return of The Joker. Harley Quinn was in the script and shown as the daughter of Jack Napier.

As of yet, the script hasn?t been leaked online and it is unknown whether or not Jack Nicholson would've reprised his role of the Joker. Due to poor results from Batman & Robin, Triumphant was cancelled and Warner Bros. commissioned more scripts."

I'm also guessing he took his "dark" frustration out on his next film, 8MM. Afterall that film was disturbing, and I bet he wanted to show everyone he could still make a very "dark" film even after B&R.

So I stand by Joel Schumacher. Not for making B&R a kids film. But if he had gone through with making "Batman: The Triumphant" which probably would have been a better film, that people may have liked more than they think they would have. This is why you never say never.

For example; When people were mad at George Lucas for making Star Wars Episode I-II, do you think that stopped him from making Episode III? No. And guess what? he made up for his "mistakes" in the eyes of the people, when he made Revenge of the Sith.  So everything happens for a reason, and unfortunately we couldn't see the third Schumacher-Batman film. That's that.
"Jack is dead my friend. You can call me, Joker. And, as you can see, I'm a lot happier."