Debate about the title

Started by Bobthegoon89, Mon, 1 Oct 2012, 21:22

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A lot of people (including Tim Burton) have said they hated the title of Batman Forever. I think even Janet Scott Batchler too. But is it really so bad?

I like how the Batman films never depended on numbered sequel titles ala the Superman series. Although it may get tricky as we go on coming up with newer sub titles (think they'll ever use "The Intimidation Game" someday?). But as cool a title as Batman Returns is it makes even less sense than the Forever title. I mean what's Batman returning from apart from the original movie? I doubt he's been on a three year vacation since The Joker before Gordon switches on that signal to deal with the Gotham Plaza attack (although as a kid this is what I did assume).

With Forever they did attempt to explain the title. Bruce says that he "fell forever" at one point in describing falling into the Batcave. Also there is the dilemma of Bruce Wayne choosing to continue as Batman or not which by the end of course he does.

Quote from: Bobthegoon89 on Mon,  1 Oct  2012, 21:22A lot of people (including Tim Burton) have said they hated the title of Batman Forever. I think even Janet Scott Batchler too. But is it really so bad?

I like how the Batman films never depended on numbered sequel titles ala the Superman series. Although it may get tricky as we go on coming up with newer sub titles (think they'll ever use "The Intimidation Game" someday?). But as cool a title as Batman Returns is it makes even less sense than the Forever title. I mean what's Batman returning from apart from the original movie? I doubt he's been on a three year vacation since The Joker before Gordon switches on that signal to deal with the Gotham Plaza attack (although as a kid this is what I did assume).

With Forever they did attempt to explain the title. Bruce says that he "fell forever" at one point in describing falling into the Batcave. Also there is the dilemma of Bruce Wayne choosing to continue as Batman or not which by the end of course he does.
I kinda like the title. It works on a few levels. The movie starts with Bruce being uncomfortable, to say the least, with his decisions. He's Batman forever because he has to be. It's a curse. By the end, he's reached some absolution for and acceptance of the deaths of his parents. He can be a hero and be Bruce. He's Batman forever by choice.

" You see, I'm both Bruce Wayne and Batman. Not because I have to be. Now... because I choose to be."


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May I persuade you to take a sandwich with you, sir?

It's not a bad-sounding title.

As I kid I loved it, and now as an adult I do see the point of it, hey at least it wasnt  just titled BATMAN III.


I have given a name to my pain, and it is BATMAN.

There was also that very strange tagline (which I still am not sure precisely what it's supposed to mean in the context of the film).

Remember?: "COURAGE NOW...TRUTH ALWAYS...BATMAN...FOREVER!"

Still it did sound cool in the trailer. Maybe that's the point.

Tue, 29 Apr 2014, 21:30 #6 Last Edit: Tue, 29 Apr 2014, 21:32 by Slash Man
I understood it as a kid; it really emphasized the dilemma of Batman quitting, and his vow to return was what really embodied "Batman Forever." I never minded.

Though it's probably the least straightforward of the titles. Each refers to something the viewer can already infer, but Batman Forever only really makes sense after viewing the movie.

i never knew there was a debate about the title. i always thought it was obvious, like what people have said before, that it ties to bruce reconciling that he will be batman, well, forever.