Should Knox have returned in Batman Returns?

Started by Bobthegoon89, Mon, 1 Oct 2012, 00:01

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Or "Batman II: The Annuity" as Robert Whul speculated on the sequels title  ;D

Given the much darker tone would it have been a benefit if he had been around to brighten the mood? Was he rejected simply as the tone was vastly different? Or did they just basically forget all about him?

Even though he vanished I like to think those Gotham Globe titles are still his work throughout the sequels. Remember "Me-ouch!" or "It's a Cat-tastrophe!"? Certainly sound like his kind of work. There's even one in Batman and Robin in relation to Poison Ivy.

Perhaps he was now the editor of the Globe.

Quote from: Bobthegoon89 on Mon,  1 Oct  2012, 00:01Or "Batman II: The Annuity" as Robert Whul speculated on the sequels title  ;D

Given the much darker tone would it have been a benefit if he had been around to brighten the mood? Was he rejected simply as the tone was vastly different? Or did they just basically forget all about him?

Even though he vanished I like to think those Gotham Globe titles are still his work throughout the sequels. Remember "Me-ouch!" or "It's a Cat-tastrophe!"? Certainly sound like his kind of work. There's even one in Batman and Robin in relation to Poison Ivy.
I guess I assumed he was cut out because there were enough characters already and because BR was less dependent on media/journalism stuff than B89 was.

I have always liked Knox, I wish he had become a part of the larger Batman mythos.

The film is so loaded with characters and I am so married to the final product, no, I don't think Knox should have been in it, despite adoring Whul and Knox in general. It would have been nice however, to give mention of the character whether via prop (a newspaper byline under "BATMAN BLOWS IT" or better yet one rag of papers on that rack that defends Batman's work that just happens to be written by the original Man Bat enthusiast) or they could have given him a 'vicki vale esque' out.

I'd have liked Batman Returns to have been more of a direct sequel to the first film like in Hamm's original script. And as part of that, I would have liked to have seen Knox return.

QuoteI have always liked Knox, I wish he had become a part of the larger Batman mythos.

Robert Wuhl did briefly reprise his role as Knox in a Batman-themed promotion for MTV.


And The Batman Files (2011) by Matthew K. Manning contains a number of newspaper articles written by Knox. You can read some of them here:

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=OuZ0VXQqGAkC&pg=PT261&lpg=PT261&dq=%22alexander+knox%22&source=bl&ots=T1r3HLKKgt&sig=OOe-nmV7mCOg5jVQLAN2edu7frE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=0I5pUIjCLqWc0QX0j4GQDQ&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%20%22alexander%20knox%22&f=false

Notice how the article headed 'Gotham's Finest? Not Even Close' mentions a character named Kimberly Wuhl; a clear nod to actor Robert Wuhl.

I thought the 'Aggressive Reporter' was more or less the BR version of Knox.  I would have liked it had Wuhl reprise that role, of course.

I do like Wuhl as Knox. He's a great guy and was fun in B89. However I didn't miss him in BR.

I guess for some BR looked so different and at times felt different from the original that it wouldn't mean much to see a reprising character or not.

Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Mon,  1 Oct  2012, 13:05I'd have liked Batman Returns to have been more of a direct sequel to the first film like in Hamm's original script. And as part of that, I would have liked to have seen Knox return.

Twelve years later, and I no longer hold this view. I love Batman Returns' individuality and the older I get the fewer things I'd want to change about it. Maybe tone down some of the sexual innuendo and pervy Penguin moments, but other than that I'd leave it as it is.

Anyway, I saw this video praising Batman Returns on YouTube. The most interesting part of it is a Robert Wuhl cameo at the 17:00 mark. He briefly chimes in to discuss his feelings about not being in Batman Returns and also shares his opinion on the declining quality of the Burton-Schumacher series as a whole.


It's good to see he still has such affection for the role.