Young Jack Napier's sidekick

[The Dark Knight]

But if Mr. Ulsan says it's Joe. OK.

I see this as nothing more than trying to soothe and calm the 'Joker didn't kill Batman's parent's in the comics' crowd.

Chill didn't kill his parents but he was there!

Nah. It makes more sense for it to be Bob.

[riddler]

I love the original film but to my knowledge the name 'Joe Chill' is never mentioned in any of the original series. So if he's never mentioned on screen we can't really acknowledge him as a character in that universe.

Napier does kind of remark as an adult that he killed more in his younger days. And that is generally how the mob works; the ones going out whacking people and committing the actual crimes are the ones lower on the ladder. When they rise up, they then have the lower guys do their dirty work (I realize there wasn't a hit on the waynes it was a robbery). So Jack likely stopped killing once he ascended in the ranks and then started again when he became the Joker.

Obviously it's never stated who the side kick is but since Bob is an established character in the film and Joe Chill is not, I'd be more inclined to assume it's Bob.

[The Joker]

I see this as nothing more than trying to soothe and calm the 'Joker didn't kill Batman's parent's in the comics' crowd.

With all the deviations the Nolan films took with the mythology in order to tell it's stories, I don't see any real valid reason for stating what comes across as being apologetic about deviations the Burton films took in order to tell it's stories.

[The Dark Knight]

I see this as nothing more than trying to soothe and calm the 'Joker didn't kill Batman's parent's in the comics' crowd.

With all the deviations the Nolan films took with the mythology in order to tell it's stories, I don't see any real valid reason for stating what comes across as being apologetic about deviations the Burton films took in order to tell it's stories.

I know what you're saying, but that's the way I see it in regards to this. The Joe Chill thing is out of left field and foreign to this film in my opinion. Uslan is the only person on record saying it's Chill.

I love the original film but to my knowledge the name 'Joe Chill' is never mentioned in any of the original series. So if he's never mentioned on screen we can't really acknowledge him as a character in that universe.

Obviously it's never stated who the side kick is but since Bob is an established character in the film and Joe Chill is not, I'd be more inclined to assume it's Bob.

Exactly. Uslan's comments in a magazine don't hold any weight for me.

[thecolorsblend]

But if Mr. Ulsan says it's Joe. OK.

He can say what he likes but I don't buy it. I could see it being a nameless thug, I could easily see it being Bob but being a pivotal character like Chill... who essentially gets tossed aside so Jack can do the dirty work... that just doesn't make sense to me in any way.

[The Joker]

I don't really have any real strong feelings on the subject either way. I'm perfectly OK with Michael Uslan stating the guy was Joe Chill in a magazine over 20 years ago, just as I am still Ok with having always assumed the guy was Bob due to the narrative of the film itself.

Honestly, I suspect Mr. Uslan isn't really passionate about the Chill name dropping himself, and likely said it off the cuff (which is how it comes across). Because otherwise, I'm sure he could have very easily changed the "Other Mugger" credit to "Joe Chill" if he really wanted to make that point. As is, it's open to interpretation just as it always has been.

[riddler]

If they wanted it to be Joe they easily could have had Jack call him by name. I dont mind it being the Joker. That was the first comic film in theatres without Superman in 23 years. they couldnt have known how mad comic fans get when elements are changed

[The Dark Knight]

I dont mind it being the Joker.

I'm glad that was the case. It makes it unique to Burton's film alone and increases the personal connection between the two main characters.

[The Joker]

I dont mind it being the Joker.

I'm glad that was the case. It makes it unique to Burton's film alone and increases the personal connection between the two main characters.

Indeed.

[Silver Nemesis]

Well I'm in the minority here, because I like the idea of the second mugger being Chill.

But perhaps there's a compromise. We've always assumed Bob's surname was 'Goon' (doubtless related to the Boston Goons) and that his middle name was 'The'. But what if his full name was 'Joseph Robert Chill'? That would be a much better plot twist than Ducard turning out to be Ra's.