The Dark Knight Rises review

Started by Paul (ral), Thu, 19 Jul 2012, 01:53

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John Blake is not Batman and should never become Batman whatever the film's ending implies, but so what?  Because he's some lowly beat cop/detective rather than some masked billionaire vigilante that makes him less of a hero?  In my books he's more of a hero. 

In fact, one of the aspects that I like most about Burton's 'Batman' is that he presents a central character whose motives make him if anything more of a threat to the city than a figure who should be unambiguously praised as its saviour.  Burton's Batman is still a hero but a nevertheless questionable one. 

However, only at the end of his trilogy does Nolan finally try and correct the whole elitist notion he peddles throughout the first two movies - that only a multi-billionaire with years of advanced training and hi-tech gadgetry at his disposal with the single-minded pursuit of using his wealth to beat up villains rather than seek genuine cures to his city's ills can save society.
Johnny Gobs got ripped and took a walk off a roof, alright? No big loss.

Difference is, Burton's Batman gets results. And that's what it's all about. It doesn't matter if he's a beat cop or a billionaire, the film shows us he's ineffective. Motives, willpower and all those things are irrelevant if you can't satisfactorily hold your own and save the day.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 10 Aug  2013, 04:10
Difference is, Burton's Batman gets results. And that's what it's all about. It doesn't matter if he's a beat cop or a billionaire, the film shows us he's ineffective. Motives, willpower and all those things are irrelevant if you can't satisfactorily hold your own and save the day.

Yeah at the end of the day, Keaton wouldn't have held up on the villains the way Bale does; they pretty much mock him that he can't kill no matter what

Quote from: riddler on Thu, 15 Aug  2013, 03:10
Yeah at the end of the day, Keaton wouldn't have held up on the villains the way Bale does; they pretty much mock him that he can't kill no matter what
Yep. At the start of B89, the two punks are left terrified. When Gordon sees Batman at Axis, he utters "oh my God." When he drops in to save Vicki at the museum, not a word is spoken until he leaves the scene. Joker and the goons are in shock amazement. Notice how Joker makes his "washing his tights" quip and then goes all focused once he notices the Batwing overhead. In TDK, Maroni is smug and gives Batman lip. He's dropped from a height, but even then is resolute in his views. Batman just grunts frustrated and moves away.