Biggest Batman Myth of All Time

[The Joker]

A few myths I'm tired of (though all but one are about Batman Forever):

Myth: Schumacher changed Batman's origin and Harvey Dent was the Waynes' killer in Batman Forever
Reality: Nonsense.  This is all brought about through clear misinterpretation of the scene where Bruce flashes back to his parents' murders and talks to Alfred ("I killed them."  "What?"  "Two-Face, he murdered that boy's parents.)

That's funny to me that someone would actually interpret that scene as being Harvey Dent.

Mainly because I distinctly remember seeing 'Batman Forever' on it's opening Friday, and recall several people in the theater saying "Joker" when the flashback of the Waynes being murdered took place. And these were very likely casual fans at best who probably only knew of the movie continuity. In addition, I felt Schumacher gave a nod to Batman 1989 during the Wayne/Grayson argument where Grayson says that Bruce's parents were not killed by a maniac (or something along those lines), which causes Bruce to sternly reply, "Yes. They were."

[KeatonisBatman]

In addition, I felt Schumacher gave a nod to Batman 1989 during the Wayne/Grayson argument where Grayson says that Bruce's parents were not killed by a maniac (or something along those lines), which causes Bruce to sternly reply, "Yes. They were."

Exactly!  Also, the scene where Chase says "Or do I need skintight vinyl and a whip?" as a blatant nod to Batman Returns   

[The Joker]

Exactly!  Also, the scene where Chase says "Or do I need skintight vinyl and a whip?" as a blatant nod to Batman Returns   

Indeed. Would love to see a director's cut as it's been stated that the original beginning and ending to Batman Forever were much more Burton influenced than what we ended up getting with the theatrical cut.

[KeatonisBatman]

Totally - I'd dig a Schumacher DC of Batman Forever.  Take out the butt shots, and the "I'll get drive thru" bit and you've got a pretty solid Burtonesque Bat-flick.   

[Paul (ral)]

The DVD and Blu-ray releases were Schumacher's Director Cut.

[The Dark Knight]

Speaking of Blu-rays, guess what guys? A few days ago I bought BF and B&R on the format. They were dirt cheap, in a two for one combo deal. I thought what the hell?

[Seantastic]

Speaking of Blu-rays, guess what guys? A few days ago I bought BF and B&R on the format. They were dirt cheap, in a two for one combo deal. I thought what the hell?

Hey, they are amazing films, seriously.
I love both of them, and don't really get the hate that they both get, especially Forever.  Sure they're lighter, but thats what everyone wanted after Returns, well I didn't but the vast majority did. 

[The Joker]

The DVD and Blu-ray releases were Schumacher's Director Cut.

I've been reading stuff to the contrary for years.

http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Batman_Forever#Original_cut_and_deleted_scenes

[KeatonisBatman]

The DVD and Blu-ray releases were Schumacher's Director Cut.

They don't have the opening sequence at Arkham with "Dr. Burton"...

[Wayne49]

I think Schumacher's suggestion the studio wanted B&R to be "toy-etic" has placed a label on the film it never should have had. Thematically the film looks every bit like Forever. The over-the-top costumes, lighting, and general environment of the two films are identical. B&R was actually able to enhance some of those aspects simply because technology had already evolved enough between the two films to show it better. But the end result was still the same. Take out the butt shots in the beginning, the sexual innuendo in the dialogue, and give Freeze some actual dialogue without ice jokes and the movie would be virtually identical to Forever. Schumacher just took some unwarranted chances with B&R because he felt like the audience was sold after Forever. Had he tried to keep it pseudo-serious like Forever, we probably wouldn't be having this dialogue today and Schumacher would have completed his trilogy with "Batman Triumphant".