Biggest Batman Myth of All Time

Started by phantom stranger, Tue, 3 Aug 2010, 03:36

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Myth: Batman and Robin was the first Batman movie to give Batman nipples and focus on his codpiece.

Reality: Batman Forever was the first Batman movie to have these, um...stylistic traits. Yet, to this day, people act as if B & R was the first.

Case in point:

QuoteJOEL SCHUMACHER knows how to endure. Best known for creating big-budget Hollywood entertainment like ?Batman Forever? and adapting John Grisham thrillers like ?The Client,?  he has floundered since the widely panned ?Batman & Robin? in 1997. (The nipples and enlarged codpieces of its superhero suits were just one aspect that came in for ribbing.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/movies/25twelve.html

The biggest is probably the whole Man-Bat in the Cave in Forever, I had never heard of it, and when I finally saw a picture of it, I was stunned, of course very soon after that I read about how it wasn't Man-Bat, but still, was quite interesting to hear something like that.


Wed, 4 Aug 2010, 00:17 #2 Last Edit: Wed, 4 Aug 2010, 00:31 by BatmAngelus
A few myths I'm tired of (though all but one are about Batman Forever):

Myth: Schumacher changed Batman's origin and Harvey Dent was the Waynes' killer in Batman Forever
Reality: Nonsense.  This is all brought about through clear misinterpretation of the scene where Bruce flashes back to his parents' murders and talks to Alfred ("I killed them."  "What?"  "Two-Face, he murdered that boy's parents.)

Myth: Christian Bale auditioned for Robin
Reality:  All started on a posting in IMDB Trivia, suspiciously after Bale was cast as Batman.  Bale himself debunked it.

Myth: Tim Burton wanted to do Riddler with Robin Williams in the third film.
Reality: Burton never got to the stage of choosing the villain.  It was Lee and Janet Scott Batchler who wanted the Riddler and Schumacher who wanted Robin Williams.

Myth: There were darker scenes in Batman & Robin in which Poison Ivy stabs Julie Madison to death.
Reality: Again, the glory of IMDB trivia.  No evidence of this happening, other than postings on IMDB and Wikipedia.  There's a possibility that this is true, but I'd have to hear it from a legit source.  I wasn't convinced that they were thinking of killing off Vicki Vale until Peter Guber confirmed it for me.
Look at the draft of the script online (if you dare)- Julie's last scene is walking out on Bruce 'cause he picks Pamela Isley over her.  So instead of killing Bruce's fiancee, Ivy simply kills Bruce's already tenuous love life through her pheromones.  Not exactly the dark tragedy that the IMDB/Wiki trivia want you to believe.
That awkward moment when you remember the only Batman who's never killed is George Clooney...

I actually believed that last one about Julie Madison. I was rather upset when I found out it wasn't on the deleted scenes of B & R. Well, actually B & R only had one deleted scene on the dvd--and it was just an extended scene of Barbara's first appearance.

Is there any mention of it in the DVD behind-the-scenes features?  I've looked for interviews or hard evidence from the cast and crew (or news articles) on this, but haven't found anything besides IMDB and Wiki.  I'll take it down if it turns out to be true.
That awkward moment when you remember the only Batman who's never killed is George Clooney...

No, I think you're right. I'm trying to think of where I read it and I can't think of any official source.

It makes sense that it would be a myth because that wouldn't fit into the tone they were going for. Having said that, it was such a small part that I'm sure there were more scenes with her. Ditto with the character known as, um, Ms. B Haven, who was played by the equally odd-sounding Vivica A. Fox.

If memory serves, she's only in one scene and never heard from again. She must've had more scenes. Perhaps Poison Ivy offed her?  ;D

One of the few redeeming things about Batman and Robin is that it's the only film in the original series where the villains do not find out Batman's identiy. Especially having a female character falling in love with Bruce Wayne AND Batman had already been done in the last two films.

Quote from: riddler on Fri, 16 Dec  2011, 17:39
One of the few redeeming things about Batman and Robin is that it's the only film in the original series where the villains do not find out Batman's identiy.
And if these things bother you, the villains don't die.

Quote from: BatmAngelus on Wed,  4 Aug  2010, 00:17
A few myths I'm tired of (though all but one are about Batman Forever):

Myth: Schumacher changed Batman's origin and Harvey Dent was the Waynes' killer in Batman Forever

I always thought when I first saw it in theaters. Now I  just picture it being Jack Napier/Joker.

It's definitely not implied who Batmans killer was from this film. Also keep in mind it is a dream/flashback sequence so it doesn't need to be accurate. You could argue that since Two face killed Dick's parents, Bruce is hallucinating him killing his own parents to put himself in Dicks shoes or realize the path he's about to take.