Arkham City

Started by The Dark Knight, Sun, 13 Dec 2009, 09:44

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Another Burton Ref: During a 'inmate surveillance recording,' a goon says that "His life isn't worth spit here." Carl Grissom FTW

Shumac Ref: One of the Riddles Batman has to scan is at Catwoman's apartment. In bloody looking script, Two Face (or his goons under orders) spray painted the wall outside her apartment the quote, "CATWOMAN MUST DIE!" a reference to the deleted scene that was to open Batman Forever.

Quote from: Gotham Knight on Sun,  6 Nov  2011, 04:00
Another Burton Ref: During a 'inmate surveillance recording,' a goon says that "His life isn't worth spit here." Carl Grissom FTW

Shumac Ref: One of the Riddles Batman has to scan is at Catwoman's apartment. In bloody looking script, Two Face (or his goons under orders) spray painted the wall outside her apartment the quote, "CATWOMAN MUST DIE!" a reference to the deleted scene that was to open Batman Forever.
Niiice.

Some of Catwoman's fighting moves are similar to Pfeiffer's. For example, one of her counter attacks involves her grabbing her opponent's head and dragging it down to connect with her knee. She did the same thing to Batman during their second fight in Batman Returns.

Another movie reference can be seen in one of her idle stances, which shows her 'bathing' herself by licking the back of her hand and rubbing it across her cowl.

Mr. Freeze borrows some of Arnolds puns.

Fri, 25 Nov 2011, 07:55 #144 Last Edit: Fri, 25 Nov 2011, 13:19 by The Dark Knight
Quote from: Gotham Knight on Tue,  1 Nov  2011, 18:26
SPOILER: When the booby trapped apartment blows up and knocks her out, she lays unconscious with cats walking around her. Very Batman Returns.
Played through the game's story and on this point again - When Catwoman wakes up, a goon asks what they'll do. Another goon replies that they'll kill her again. Yet another BR reference, in terms of the supernatural element Burton alluded to.

The Robin DLC is now available to download. I'll get around to doing so soon. Anybody else played it?

Now that we've had a decent length of time playing AC, where do you rank it among the other Batman games?

Edit: In the last Catwoman level, Two-Face says "the first to find her will be my right hand...guy." He says this in a very similar fashion to Nicholson. Play through that part again or find it on Youtube and you'll see what I mean.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Fri, 25 Nov  2011, 07:55
Quote from: Gotham Knight on Tue,  1 Nov  2011, 18:26
SPOILER: When the booby trapped apartment blows up and knocks her out, she lays unconscious with cats walking around her. Very Batman Returns.
Played through the game's story and on this point again - When Catwoman wakes up, a goon asks what they'll do. Another goon replies that they'll kill her again. Yet another BR reference, in terms of the supernatural element Burton alluded to.

The Robin DLC is now available to download. I'll get around to doing so soon. Anybody else played it?

Now that we've had a decent length of time playing AC, where do you rank it among the other Batman games?

Edit: In the last Catwoman level, Two-Face says "the first to find her will be my right hand...guy." He says this in a very similar fashion to Nicholson. Play through that part again or find it on Youtube and you'll see what I mean.

I have. Robin's got a shorter arm length than bats, but he's almost better to play as, actually. At one point, he pulled a 'Neo in the Burly Brawl' in one of the fighter challenges I tested, with his ninja stick thing running in a circle. Not as long as The One's, of course, but awesome.

As to where AC ranks, I guess you'd have to put each game in it's time, or you end up comparing William Blake to Ronald Mcdonald.  Still, I'd say all in all this game is in the number 2 spot behind Arkham Asylum. I touched on that reasoning (as did you more eloquently), but to reiterate, and this coming from a guy who loves sandbox games resoundingly, the intimacy of AA made the experience richer, the sights more enthralling/shocking, the atmosphere more encompassing, and the urgency more tangible. 

Downloaded Robin. Catwoman remains my favourite non Batman character to play as, given how she's vastly different to the others. Especially in the stealth levels. I do like playing as Robin, though. More so than Nightwing.

As for ranking the games, again it's tough to do. AC is the better game, but the heart is with AA.

Interesting find


Some random thoughts for anyone that might be reading these halls... "Best Batman" or "best superhero/comics" etc. game isn't saying much, these games are some of the best Batman movies, only made in the form of video games.

This applies to other genres as well, the cutscenes alone from the Uncharted games are worth more as "movies" than the entire length of Indiana Jones Kingdom of the Crystal Skull... Resident Evil works better as a cheesy horror B-movie than actual cheesy horror B-movies one can find on the video club shelf (and it's a million times better than its Paul WS Anderson movie "adaptations")... God of War III works much better as a mythological/scord & sorcery epic than Clash of the Titans... The Dead Space games are second only to classic sci-fi horror by Ridley Scott, Cameron, Carpenter etc.... Castlevania: Lords of Shadow was the best fantasy/sword & sorcery "film" since Lord of the Rings... Mass Effect is maybe the best sci-fi universe of recent years, some say it's better and more mature than Star Wars..

Even with these advances in technology, the medium is still young, in time more people will finally admit that games have always been a story telling medium. Classic adventures by Lucasarts, Sierra etc. are some retro examples, there are some great movies hidden behind the cheesy (but always charming) pixel art, the Soundblaster chiptunes, or the hammy voice acting of early CD-rom games.

When cinema or comics were still young, there were very few people ready to admit that they are art. Same goes for games.

/end of rant lol

New DLC may be on the horizon.

http://www.shacknews.com/article/73155/batman-arkham-city-dlc-hinted-with-new-trophies

Batman: Arkham City released last year, and received a few downloadable content packs featuring Robin and Nightwing as playable Challenge Maps. That would seem to indicate the end of that particular DLC, but a new set of Trophies seems to indicate we'll get a new story episode. Ending spoilers follow.

The new PlayStation 3 Trophies found on PS3Trophies.org (via CVG) point toward featuring the Joker's groupie, Harley Quinn. The most significant clue likely comes from a Trophy called "A Few New Tricks," which reads: "Use 5 different Quickfire gadgets in one fight as Robin in Harley Quinn's Revenge." This could point toward post-game content, since the game's ending certainly leaves Harley plenty of reason to seek revenge.

We heard some indication of continuing plot episodes before the game released, when Batman voice actor Kevin Conroy said he was recording extra voice work for downloadable episodes. Those episodes are taking their time coming to fruition, but here's hoping they hit the market. Serial pieces of plot should fit a comic property to a T.