Burton Trilogy

[thecolorsblend]

I always kinda figured that a third Burton movie would revolve around the Scarecrow and take place around Halloween.  Scarecrow always seemed like a very Burton'ish villain to me.  I figure there'd be a natural pairing (and then eventual rivalry between) Hugo Strange and the Scarecrow... a notion I had, btw, long before that sequel to LOTDK's Prey storyline came around.  And that's exactly how I wouldn't tell that story, incidentally.

As far as I'm concerned, the sky was the limit when it came to Burton and the Batman franchise.  He could've adapted basically anything from the comics into his universe and it would've fit pretty well.  Strange's monster men would've fit in naturally with BR's production design (although perhaps not so much the winter setting).

[Scarecrow756]

I think a third Burton Batman movie would be very intersting. Personally I could see Burton bringing back Billy Dee Williams as Dent and Two Face because he mused with the idea during the Batman 89 commentry. It would have been a good send of if Burton completed his trilogy. As for villians I would have wanted to see Scarecrow and Two Face. Who knows maybe it would follow some kind of conntunity but alas we will never find out, damm WB sometimes lol.

[johnnygobbs]

As for villians I would have wanted to see Scarecrow and Two Face.

A Burton Scarecrow would have been brilliant.

[TheBatMan0887]

I think 1 and 2 have continuity on the fact that DC #28's story is about a monicle wearing guy who frames batman. This fits in with how 27 has a prelude to the Joker's origin and chemical plot.

Returns is issue #28 along with newer Penguin stories, just as 89 was #27 with newer Joker stories. I never see them as too different.

A third film may have to break that line and choose the previously mentioned villains, however.

I beleive a Burton ScareCrow would have been freaky and awsome and to hell with anyone who thinks his scarecrow should be ruined by the role of a top pop culture icon like 3 and 4 (Stern...no, even if I do like him and I say 3 and 4 because they were sloppy with what they could have chosen). I hope that Nolan wises up and sees the Docter in him is about over. I don't always want him half the stereotypical bussiness suit guy from Double Dragon, Street Fighter (Chun Li) or other.

Realy, I don't like the direction I think he may go in as ScarCrow needed to become a loner psychopath and start using the Streight Jacket for now on to mimick the original book's look.

He still could later and then it will be more like the comic, so I hope he was planning this all along. It needs to be that he became influenced by his own spray of his chemicals and starts thinking about using the image of the insane one to inflict fear. It looks near on par with the comic and fits right in with the Nolan universe of BatMan.

[burtongenius]

   From what I've seen on a separate fan site for burton (specifically for his batman movies) the plan was to do the four main villains from the adam west show- joker, catwoman, penguin, riddler.  It would make sense to do more than one movie for a batman franchise.  It is too big to fit in one movie and three movies is the perfect amount of movies for a batman franchise in my opinion. (burton would make it work anyhow).  
    And as regarding tim burton wanting batman returns to be a "separate untainted work" , I think that is stupid.  Where do you think the bat signal, vicki- two references, and everyone knowing who batman was (batman frame up-"batman killed the princess", penguin telling the horrors of batman in speech-"costumed freak", selena kyle knowing who batman was, commissioner gordon, etc.), same bat car, plane, and cave.  Burton obviously worked hard to make a good batman franchise/trilogy (and what I read from that fansite the third batman looked really good)

[burtongenius]

    As far as why a third batman movie was made, its perfectly obvious to me.  The big shots didn't like the sewer penguin.  They didn't like that he was deformed, he lived in a sewer, and that he was a mean/evil guy (or the sexual references).  They didn't like that because he wouldn't be liked or understood by kids or their parents.  And heres the truth- IT WASN'T A KIDS MOVIE!!!- no batman movies are supposed to be kids movies.  Batman Returns was a realistic protrayal of the Penguin and Catwoman.  Batman is about a guy dressed up as a bat trying to stop bad, evil, psychotic men(and women) who are trying to kill or take over gotham (or the united states in the jokers case).  It is alright for animated shows that show a watered down version of what batman is (though the animated series was very good, its just that the burton batman was made more realistic and fleshed out) and action figures that protray those shows (why they put out ledger joker action figures I'll never know).  Therefore, McDonals shouldn't be expecting a kid friendly movie and parents shouldn't be expecting an under 14 movie!  Obviously the big guys cared more about selling the batman franchise to children and making it more appealing to them than making a good and realistic batman movie.  And that is why burton and keaton got out of the project.  
         The sales declined because a) it wasn't the first batman movie and didn't have as big of a fever pitch  b) not as famous villains (philistines)  c) the afore mentioned.  The fact is is that the penguin is seen as a not so appealing character.  And therefore they shouldn't be watching the movie because that is what the penguin is (the only true/realistic/makes sense penguin protrayed in comics or television in my opinion-pure genius by burton, hamm, devito)  And what I read on a website that burton said is true.  Burton said that the first batman was the darker one.  He was right.  The Joker was psychotic and wanted to kill everyone (especially gotham) and take over the US.  Though the Penguin was bad (kill babies, later 100,000 Gothamites), in my opinion he wasn't quite as bad as the joker- though pretty close.  Its just his image, demeanor, and attitude that people didn't like.  And that is why a burton trilogy never got made.  Its just our luck that the riddler wasn't the second batman movie(though the fan site said they didn't like the direction burton's vision was going with that one either).

[The Dark Knight]

If you are going to post here, use paragraphs. That goes for everyone.

[burtongenius]

Sorry about the paragraphs.  I am new and got carried away I guess.  Though paragraphs do look alot nicer.......

[thecolorsblend]

WB may or may not have liked BR but had it made about $20 million or so more than it did, a third Burton movie would've been inevitable.

Also, I'd call the Burton films (and the characters thereof) many things but "realistic" isn't one of 'em.

[The Dark Knight]

Also, I'd call the Burton films (and the characters thereof) many things but "realistic" isn't one of 'em.

Yep. Ripped straight from the pages of a comic book. As it should be.