How Batman and Superman First Met...

Started by BatmAngelus, Sat, 20 Feb 2016, 21:04

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Many of us have read Batman's first meeting with Superman in Byrne's Man of Steel, where they team up against Magpie. Or we've seen the DCAU version in the three-parter World's Finest.

However, there's multiple versions of Batman and Superman meeting each other. Some tidbits:
- Their first time drawn together was in the same panel as The Flash (Jay Garrick) in representing the Justice Society of America
- Their first full adventure together was done on radio
- Their first comic adventure together had Bruce and Clark forced to room together on the same cruise ship
- This was retconned in having Superboy know Bruce before the death of the Waynes, where Bruce took on the costume of "The Flying Fox." After the death of the Waynes, Superboy tried to dissuade a teenage Bruce from a life of vengeance when he donned the costume of...The Executioner. These two instances plus Bruce dressing up as the first Robin to learn from Harvey Harris mean that Bruce Wayne had three costumed personas before becoming Batman.

Read more here:
https://graemesliterarytimemachine.wordpress.com/2015/10/18/batman-v-superman-the-complete-story-of-how-they-met-1945-1952-1958-1970-1972-1986-2003-2004-2008-2011-2013/
That awkward moment when you remember the only Batman who's never killed is George Clooney...

Quote from: BatmAngelus on Sat, 20 Feb  2016, 21:04
- This was retconned in having Superboy know Bruce before the death of the Waynes, where Bruce took on the costume of "The Flying Fox."

The Flying Fox is also the same name given to a new vehicle for the upcoming Justice League movie. Homage, or coincidence?
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

The takeaway from this is I'm not overly fond of any of these first meetings between Batman and Superman in comics apart from Byrne's Man of Steel.

I like what Snyder did a lot because he amplified what already existed in the material. He straight up presented Superman's worry that Batman is a loose cannon killing criminals left right and centre. And Batman's fear that Superman is an unknown quality that will be a future risk. Snyder made Batman and Superman big controversial figures in society. It made complete sense for these people to eventually seek each other out and clash.


Quote from: The Dark Knight on Fri, 13 Jan  2017, 10:04
I like what Snyder did a lot because he amplified what already existed in the material. He straight up presented Superman's worry that Batman is a loose cannon killing criminals left right and centre. And Batman's fear that Superman is an unknown quality that will be a future risk. Snyder made Batman and Superman big controversial figures in society. It made complete sense for these people to eventually seek each other out and clash.

Which makes Lex Luthor an even more conniving villain for manipulating both men's prejudices against each other.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Yeah, I dig that. Sending Clark the newspaper clippings about the prison shankings, which he arranged. Another aspect which the Ultimate Cut expanded upon, making the film even better.