Dark Knight + B89 similarities (SPOILERS!!)

[The Dark Knight]

One that wont be remembered too much in a few years.

Doubtful. The film is making millions and Ledger's amazing Joker will live forever.

Also i don't know if it need's to be added or not but the scene from TDK when the Batpod broke out of the Batmobile remined me alot of the part from Returns when Batman is being chased by the police and brake's his Batmissle out of his Batmobile.

Let me add, that while I adore the bat-missile, I like the bat pod more. It is more manoeuvrable, and it is an altogether different vehicle, where the bat-missile was essentially a stripped down Batmobile.

[Sandman]

Let me add, that while I adore the bat-missile, I like the bat pod more. It is more manoeuvrable, and it is an altogether different vehicle, where the bat-missile was essentially a stripped down Batmobile.

I just meant it reminded me alot of that scene. Yes the Batpod looked good but i have a article with the stunt driver who's said it was next to impossible to drive lol.

Doubtful. The film is making millions and Ledger's amazing Joker will live forever.

Just like Jack.

[The Dark Knight]

Doubtful. The film is making millions and Ledger's amazing Joker will live forever.

Just like Jack.

Exactly. Both films will be remembered.

[fotimac1]

the biggest nod to B89 is clearly batman throwing joker off the building, and that's the one "nod" to B89 that has been discussed where nolan might be trying to outdo burton.  nolan has said that burton's biggest mistake was killing off the joker, batman's greatest nemesis.  someone said how it was a "complete film" and they didn't know how good or bad it was going to do so they couldn't leave it open for a sequel, but you don't have to leave a movie open for a sequel by killing the bad guy.  just so everyone's clear, the dark knight was almost not made.  nolan does one movie at a time, and when he was filming BB he has no knowledge of where the next movie would go if at all.  i heard rumors of how IF a sequel were made joker wouldn't be in it and he would be saved for the third.  nolan never knows what he's doing in advance, but he didn't kill scarecrow in BB, and ra's could still be alive, probably not.  so yeah, joker being thrown off a building and being caught to stress that batman won't kill him might be trying to out do burton, but out of all the nods to B89 that's probably the only one.  all the others can be seen as either out of respect, or it's batman so there are going to be some similarities regardless.

[The Dark Knight]

I agree with Nolan. I get the concept of making it an 'one off' complete film, but I view killing The Joker as an epic mistake. It is something that just doesn't happen. You don't have to kill off Batman's nemesis to round off a film.

[thecolorsblend]

nolan has said that burton's biggest mistake was killing off the joker, batman's greatest nemesis.

Illustrating his ability to miss the point.  B89 was Batman vs. the Joker, winner take all.  It was war and only one of 'em could walk away.  Burton made no attempt to set the Joker up as an ongoing character on the 50/50 chance Nicholson might return (of which there was no guarantee at the time), especially since it conflicted with what he and Hamm thought was meant to be all out war between two characters who are so different and, yet, so similar.

In any case, between Ghul and Two Face, Nolan's record is hardly clean.  If he feels that seriously about it, he should take his own advice.

someone said how it was a "complete film" and they didn't know how good or bad it was going to do so they couldn't leave it open for a sequel, but you don't have to leave a movie open for a sequel by killing the bad guy.  just so everyone's clear, the dark knight was almost not made.

It's an action movie clich? to kill at least one villain of a movie... and the reason for that is because it works.

nolan does one movie at a time, and when he was filming BB he has no knowledge of where the next movie would go if at all.

I was under the impression Goyer mapped out a trilogy and Nolan would be working from that.  That impression is strengthened by Goyer's story development credit in TDK.