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My list might look a bit extreme, I'll try and explain my feelings about The Dark Knight-

It certainly is a quality film, it is a superior thriller, Heath has left an outstanding legacy in his final full performance, it is taken very seriously, but -

As a BATMAN film it left me so disappointed, I read somewhere else that someone said if you took Batman out of it, and replacd him with a cop who goes above and beyond his duty (interrogation scene etc), it would play like a "normal" thriller, about a city in peril, and I agree.

As a Batman film, for my taste it does not compare with the two Burton Batman films, those two films I thoroughly enjoyed and regard as masterpieces of the genre. I view The Dark Knight as a good thriller. Which I will still buy on  Blu-ray by the way!!!

If you think The Dark Knight is the best comic book film ever thats great, but its your opinion, you can't change mine.

Difficult.......too many....okay here's what might be my most fave-

Batman (1989)-

The Joker  interrupts the mayor's speech on television to do his live broadcast about the festival, and talks about dropping millions on the crowd.
I can't remember the line but The Joker says -"I have taken off my make up, lets see if you take off yours ".
It cuts to Bruce Wayne sat alone in the batcave who leans forward and pauses the screen on The Joker's face, and looks at the newspaper headline about his parents' murder and that emotional score kicks in, you can see the sadness in Keaton's face as in his mind Bruce Wayne replays the childhood tragedy that made him Batman.

Not for me it hasn't. Its the 4th best live action Batman film in my opinion-

Batman Returns
Batman
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight.

^ You're right, its a shame they won't change it though, its one of the weakest aspects of the film for me.

I saw it in '89 at my local cinema which had a huge screen, I was 16, it absolutely blew me away, I would love to see it on a big screen again, one of my top cinema experiences too.

Batman Returns


Batman


...That's it.

Good review i argee on pretty much everything you said, all but Harvey Dent i really liked how Nolan did him and Two-Face, with a performance every bit as good as Ledgers but i agree on the cgi face it would have looked better if his eye didn't move.

Thanks Sandman. I do think Aaron Eckhart did a very good performance despite the other problems I had with his character.

Here's my take on TDK-

It's a fairly good  crime thriller type movie, and Ledger (as has been said a million times!) is outstanding in his performance.

As a Batman film it left me extremely disappointed.

I don't write reviews so I'll just list my points-

Gotham City-To be honest at no point in the film did it feel like Gotham City to me, it had no atmosphere, looked a lot like Chicago, too many daylight scenes....Looked a lot like Heat  though;).

Harvey Dent- I think it was a mistake to make this Harvey's story, his character arc was just too quick in a plot that just crammed too much in. Nobody I know particularly liked Dent or cared about what happened to him, and the minute his face changes to half CGI, I really lost any interest in the character.

Rachel Dawes-ugh. terrible character created for Batman Begins, Gyllenhall is a better choice than Holmes but the character is awful,and that "love triangle" between her and Harvey and Bruce is not in the least convincing at all.


Bruce Wayne/Batman- My biggest problem of all. Christian Bale (who I think is terrific in other films ) doesn't really act in this film, no emotions , no nothing, when he's on screen as Wayne its like he's phoning it in, no screen presence, no brooding, no nothing!
As for his Batman performance, (This might not have been his choice..) That bat-voice is awful, nearly ruins the movie. You're trying to hear the dialogue and can't understand what Batman is saying!!!? It pulls you right out of the film.

Finally-

Convoluted plot-
I don't know about anyone else here, but I found the twisty/turny plot a bit ridiculous at times. As for that sonar bit, that was awful, couldn't tell what was meant to be happening, and the ending was very unconvincing, oh yeah, and Nolan can't direct action.

It is not the "greatest film of all time", its not even the best Batman film IMO

Thanks for letting me say all that, you're not allowed to say what I just did in certain other places!

Batman Returns because it is more emotional, and is visually more stunning, but I love them both, the best two Batman films yet, in my opinion.

By the way I think this website is great!