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#1
There's no footage of it out there. As far as I know the only evidence is this picture:




#2
Good stuff!  8)
#3
Thanks guys, all the comments here have been tremendously nice to read.

Quote from: phantom stranger on Sat, 10 May  2014, 19:54
With most fanedits, especially of this film, it's quite clear when the movie transitions to a deleted scene. But with this cut, the changes aren't really that noticeable. If I hadn't seen the movie a million times before, I might not even have noticed some of the transitions.

Trying to match the picture quality of the theatrical and the deleted footage was a struggle throughout. I blended them as best I could given my resources. In the end, the transitions aren't 100% as good as I wanted them to be visually, but I still think it looks better than the other edits I've seen. I may make another go at getting everything a bit more consistent at some point.

Btw, props to one of the previous fan editors - might've been on The Red Book Edition, can't remember - for having the awesome idea of using that establishing shot of Arkham from B&R for the opening. That was the one thing I kinda copied. ;)

B&R also provided a handy exterior shot of Wayne Manor for the scene between Bruce and Dick, as well as some Batcave ambience for Bruce and Alfred's scene extension.

Also, here is the 'vintage' version. I prefer this one myself:
http://www.mediafire.com/watch/w5177zg6pwzs5ug/BF_Virtual_Workprint_(Vintage). mp4
#4
Higher-quality mp4 version:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3aanvfx8vj19y8g/Batman+Forever+-+Virtual+Workprint.mp4.


I'll also be uploading the 'vintage' version that has dust and film scratches to complete the illusion of it having been dug out of storage in a Warner Brothers vault somewhere. Yes, I actually went that far.  ???
#5
Thanks for the compliments.  :) I actually repeated the tear shot intentionally to kind of make the two sequences 'rhyme'. I pretty much see the bat as Bruce rediscovering a memory from his childhood, so I wanted to use a similar repeating style for a couple shots as it was done in the other flashbacks.

And yeah, I know some probably won't be happy with the salon scene, but as you said it offers an explanation as to why Batman hasn't shown up to stop Riddler and Two-Face's robberies.

Better quality, properly framed file should be up by tomorrow.
#6
Quote from: Slash Man on Tue, 29 Apr  2014, 21:27
You know, I hope this gets popular enough so that Joel can actually re-assemble his version someday.

That would be awesome.

Proper mp4 upload will be up in a couple days, just making a couple last tweaks.
#7
Quote from: DocLathropBrown on Mon, 28 Apr  2014, 06:35
I hope an mpeg-standard version will come in the near future, since I would love to be able to play this on my PS3!

Should have it ready pretty soon.  8)

Quote from: eledoremassis02 on Mon, 28 Apr  2014, 07:37
what is new on Version 2? ;D

;D Was trying to correct an issue with the frame size, though it didn't quite work. I think I've finally figured it out though, so the kinks should be all worked out on the next revision.
#8
Thank you again, Doc. It really means a lot.

Still warring with the machines to make the aspect ratio work, lol. I know, it should be simple.

Takes about six hours to render each time, so I'm gonna take a break for tonight. ;)

#9
Quote from: DocLathropBrown on Sun, 27 Apr  2014, 23:41
BF is too rife with elements people dislike to morph it into an entirely different film. If you wanted to make Two-Face seem more calm (for example), you can't do it because he's manic in scenes that are too important to cut away, etc... Likewise, trying to make it into a Burton film doesn't work because it doesn't have enough of the Burtonisms and you can't replace the score unless you have access to the dialogue and foley tracks to remake the sound mix. So choosing to just enhance the film by working within its boundaries was the smartest thing to do.

I really could not have said it any better myself. This was basically my entire motivation to do this, and you've seen perfectly what I hoped a fan would see in it. Thank you for the kind words.

My only dissatisfaction with this project is that *all* the deleted material wasn't available to reinstate, and so it still feels partially incomplete to me. I'd still love to see the construction of Nygmatech, Bruce and Alfred examining the Box, Riddler knocking out Chase, even the final shot as it was originally conceived (though my guess is that the visual fx were probably never completed). While they're not necessarily integral to the plot, everything that was taken out enriches the story, makes the overall scale that much bigger, and helps everything make a little more sense. Still, I attempted to do the next best thing with what's out there. 

Also, I'm not sure if I ended up putting the deleted conversation between Bruce and Dick in quite the right spot. From what I can remember (it's been a couple years) I was looking to the latest available draft of the script as a guide for how to re-structure things, but was unable to find an equivalent to that scene anywhere. Even though it's supposedly the production draft, it still differs greatly in many spots to what we see in the film, so I assume they must've taken one more pass at it before filming and/or rewritten a lot along the way. I tried my best to fit it in a way that worked, though.
#10
Edit: New version will be up soon.  :)

So, here it is. Sorry again about the image quality, it's partially because I actually degraded the theatrical footage a bit to make the transition into the deleted stuff a little more smooth, but also because I just haven't been able to export the whole thing at a higher quality without running into a bunch of problems. Still got a few bats in the computer, I guess. I'll keep working on it, but I figured I should just put up or shut up already. Hope this suffices for now.  8)