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Has anybody seen this? A Closer Look: Batman Returns' Impact on Children (July 1992)

@The Dark Knight  lol what did Jim Carrey do to you that you're calling him a scumbag?

By the way, there's also another scene (not that anyone here cares lol) that was removed. It's the one where Arnold's character freezes Frosty for the first time. Here's an excerpt from the script:

                MS. B. HAVEN
   Freezy, I'm feeling...hot.

      FREEZE
   I find that unlikely.

      MS. B. HAVEN
   Okay, my hair is brittle, my skin
   is dry and I don't care.  I'd
   weather blizzards to have you.
   You're the most perfect man I've
   ever known.

      FREEZE
   To be frozen.  To never change.  A
   life of perpetual ice-olation.
   There is little perfection in that.

      MS. B. HAVEN
      (pushing closer)
   What say we turn up the heat?

      FREEZE
   You're skating on thin ice.  My
   passion thaws for my bride alone.

      MS. B. HAVEN
   Forget your frosty femme.  These lips
   are wet and ready to get frostbite.

      FREEZE
   Hop away little bunny.  Before I
   cool your jets.  Permanently.

The Bunny storms off.

      FREEZE
   I wonder how cold I can get my
   shower...Frosty!

Freeze's faithful aide, FROSTY, appears by his side.

      FREEZE
   Everyone is always having a good
   time.  Except me.  Try as I might,
   can find no pleasure.  Perhaps my
   heart truly has turned to ice.

143   Freeze lifts his gun and FIRES, freezing Frosty solid.

      FREEZE
   Well, that was fun.  There's hope for
   me yet.

143A   Freeze stares at his frozen aide a beat, changes the
setting on his gun and FIRES, a THAWING BEAM melting
Frosty so he stands now, soaked and dripping like a wet cat.

143B   Freeze turns on his heel.  Frosty follows him past
mounting files of research.  Scrawled schematics  An icy
workshop.

      FREEZE
   Do you think I'm mad, Frosty?

      FROSTY
      (wringing out his sleeves)
   That's really a judgment call, boss.

145   A flashing display on his suit watch reads LOW POWER.

      FREEZE
   Battling the bat exhausted my power.

From a safe, Freeze takes three small diamonds, place
them in the suit compartment.  His power levels spike to
normal.

      FREEZE
   But I was successful nevertheless.


And here's the clip:

Agreed, the dialogue is goofy, but then the practically all of the rest of the movie's dialogue is a joke anyway.

To be fair, the dialogue in all the Alfred-Bruce scenes weren't too shabby.

That's why I said practically all. The Alfred-Bruce scenes were the only good thing about this movie.

Agreed, the dialogue is goofy, but then the practically all of the rest of the movie's dialogue is a joke anyway.

I was watching the old trailers when I stumbled upon BATMAN & ROBIN and noticed something. There's one particular line that I don't remember hearing (see clip below) in the film. No, I am not talking about ''Bundle up boys. There's a storm coming.'' It's the other one, ''Batman will watch his beloved Gotham perish, then I will kill him.''.

I did some searching and apparently the original dialogue (that took place at Ivy's hideout) between her and Freeze was longer. As you can see, they filmed the whole scene, but decided to cut the ending. I for one would love to see the expression on Uma's face when she says ''I'm hungry.  I think I'll have poultry.''.

Anyway, you can read the rest of the dialogue below.


FREEZE
   You will distract the bat and bird
   while I prepare to freeze Gotham.

      IVY
   Can't we just ice them along with
   the rest of the citizenry?

      FREEZE
   That is far too merciful.  Batman
   will watch his beloved Gotham perish,
   then I will kill him.

      IVY
   As a team, the duncely duo protect
   each other.  But the Robin is young.
   Impetuous.  If I could get him alone-

      FREEZE
   One kiss and you could lift the mask
   from his lifeless face.  Their secret
   identities would be revealed.  But
   how best to bait a brid?

      IVY
   The way to a boy's heart is through
   his ego.  What strapping young hero
   could resist his very own...signal?

      FREEZE
   Inspired, Ms. Ivy.

      IVY
   I'm hungry.  I think I'll have poultry.

Anyone else besides BatmanReturns92?

Yeah, I've those. Pity they are so rare.

Hey guys,

Quick question. Does anyone here own style guides either from BATMAN FOREVER or BATMAN & ROBIN?

I think it's pretty easy to see why they picked Schumacher to direct this series. When you look at movies like Lost Boys and Flat-liners, you can see his knack for bringing mood to film through visual elements. The fact they were dark doesn't really mean anything outside of the fact the director demonstrated he could successfully instill a prescribed mood to those projects. The studio was most likely looking for a director that understood how to inject that component and operate in the world of Batman. That being said, there were allot of cooks in the kitchen for this film. That is abundantly clear when you compare with B&R.

In many ways, Forever is a very restrained film. If there is a tonal meter you could dial into this film, there are moments when the studio has Schumacher pull out all the stops, then Burton quickly interjects and starts reeling him (and the studio) back on the tracks towards a darker mood. It's a very measured film in terms of conveying a tone. That mood needle never sits on just one treatment for very long. B&R is decidedly one direction and never really lets off the gas except for a few obligatory moments with Alfred as the sympathetic character in trouble. So you can definitely tell there were allot of people pulling the strings in Forever.

Thanks for the clarification mate!

Do you suppose part of the reason Batman Forever was a better because of Burton's involvement? Speaking of which, what exactly Burton was responsible for in the film?