I know its not new, But still....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6epsGrcuTs
I still don't forgive him >:( >:( >:( >:(
LOL WB gave him alot of money, I know he dosent care.
This makes me think of the hilarious B&R review by Nastalgia Critic. "Show him BATMAN and ROBIN"...."NOOOO!!!!".
"as much as I hate this movie sooooo much I do feel sorry for Joel Schumacher especially since he wanted to make a movie based on Batman: Year One and make it darker but the studio forced him into making it more kid friendly"
If this comment is true then WB is to be blaimed.
They're both to be blamed.
Just read that Batman and Robin has topped Empire Magazine's worst movie of all time list.
The film rightly continues to haunt Clooney and Co. to this day.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue, 2 Feb 2010, 12:46
Just read that Batman and Robin has topped Empire Magazine's worst movie of all time list.
The film rightly continues to haunt Clooney and Co. to this day.
B&R is bad, but if people are being honest there are at least a hundred worse films. All the Scary Movie sequels and their derivitives are far worse, as is (off the top of my head) Battlefield Earth, Hawk the Slayer and Norbit for instance. B&R offered the occasional eye candy, and there were few dead spots.
Don't get me wrong, I still think B&R sucks, but 'worst film of all time'? No, not really.
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Tue, 2 Feb 2010, 12:55
B&R is bad, but if people are being honest there are at least a hundred worse films. All the Scary Movie sequels and their derivitives are far worse, as is (off the top of my head) Battlefield Earth, Hawk the Slayer and Norbit for instance. B&R offered the occasional eye candy, and there were few dead spots.
Don't get me wrong, I still think B&R sucks, but 'worst film of all time'? No, not really.
I agree with that. Opening it up to
all films ever made is a bit silly, really. But strictly in the realms of superhero films, yeah sure, it's right up there as one of the worst.
Batman and Robin is terrible, but it isn't deserving of it's labels as a top 10 worst of all time or anything like that. Worst Batman and one of the worst super hero movies, yeah, probably.
Let me get this straight. You guys think B&R is worse than Steel, Tank Girl and Spawn???
Wow...
Catwoman and Ghost Rider top my list of worst Comic Book movies of all time, followed closely by the Fantastic Four films.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Tue, 2 Feb 2010, 21:43
Let me get this straight. You guys think B&R is worse than Steel, Tank Girl and Spawn???
Wow...
I haven't seen those Colors, but I'm guessing that they are at least as bad as B&R (the clips I've seen of Spawn certainly testify to that). If we are simply judging B&R by other comic book movies, I would cite Howard the Duck, Supergirl, The Return of the Swamp Thing and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: The Secret of the Ooze as being worse.
You know, I?m glad they made those god awful Schumacher films. Yes, glad. I?m glad the most horrible filmic Batman exists as a lingering reminder of exactly not what to do. That?s the only way to look at his era and contribution. After him, I think we?re basically guaranteed quality Batman films. From now on, they?re going to think things through clearly. You would hope so, anyway. So Schumacher, thanks a ton.
Appologizing for it? Despite the outcome, he should at least stand by his work, even with the studio interference.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 13 Feb 2010, 14:09
After him, I think we're basically guaranteed quality Batman films. From now on, they're going to think things through clearly.
You're tempting fate, DK. ::)
Quote from: GBglide on Wed, 6 Jul 2011, 08:30
You're tempting fate, DK. ::)
I may have been under the influence when I wrote that.
Just that post, though. Nothing else. I know that. I think.
Back then Warner Bros. didn't know how to control the Batman franchise. Still don't today really.
Here's how I see it, Schumacher wanted a dark Batman, but the studio said they wanted family-friendly, so Joel tried to incorporate both, and after substancial editing, we got Batman Forever. Seeing that they really want campy, he does just that. The studio didn't really care; they looked at the dailies, and they liked it. So he kept on going, and then we got Batman & Robin. Again, it didn't appear that there was any second opinion there, Joel just did exactly what the studio wanted. And after that failure, he saw this as his opportunity to finally make a dark Batman, but then the studio got rid of him for doing what they told him to.
Again, no one knows how it could've turned out, but I at least he his side as the story, and definately wouldn't place sole blame on him (which is probably the reason for that unnecessary apology).
There is definitely blame on both sides.
It does seem like WB got what they wanted. But there were things Schumacher fought for which clearly didn't work; Shumacher fought and won to get the nipples on the batsuit (WB did not want it or Robins earling). WB wanted Anthony Hopkins or Patrick Stewart as Mr. Freeze, Shumacher fought for Arnold.
I'm kind of glad it exists as well. There are many different versions of Batman ranging from light to dark. We got a modern lighter film. Most people don't like it but some do. I think it had to happen at some point but at least we got 2 and a half films before it did; What if Batman and Robin was made in 1989? That would have killed the franchise just as it got started. We got our light film, most people didnt like it, now it's gone.
Batman Forever did have some dark elements and there were a couple ofdarker elements edited out from the final cut.