Found this, thought I'd share it.
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/06/16/batman-returns-star-michelle-pfeiffer-offers-whipping-lessons-for-the-next-catwoman/
Great find Dark Knight.
I don't want to play Catwoman, but do you think Pfeiffer will still give me whipping lessons? ;D
Whoa, Michelle looked really hot in that video! ;D
Anyway, it's a joy to hear that she'd be willing to train the next actress to play Catwoman. Many thanks for posting this, The Dark Knight.
Although, I would modify the summary just a bit...
woo hoo. i'll learn from the woman herself ;D
yes I'M going to be the future catwoman. hey let me dream, jerks. >:(
I always like it when I see they still remember and show some respect and affection towards the work they did for Burton's films. Michelle (in BR or elsewhere) is the first and last on-screen woman I ever "fell in love" with :)
What I can do without is half-assed and half-educated comments and opinions like that of "Tony Stark", below the video, calling Batman Returns a "turkey" and Michelle Pfeiffer a "decent actor" (his words, not mine).
Quote from: Dark Knight Detective on Wed, 17 Jun 2009, 03:00
Whoa, Michelle looked really hot in that video! ;D
Agreed. I loved the serious mood she was in. ;D
she's gorgeous in that video. Its nice of her to offer herself for consultation. :)
Quote from: Batnar on Wed, 17 Jun 2009, 14:11
she's gorgeous in that video. Its nice of her to offer herself for consultation. :)
Indeed. Looking like that, she could
easily reprise the role.
That is amazing, it really put a smile on my face! ;D
Quote from: silenig on Wed, 17 Jun 2009, 13:20
What I can do without is half-assed and half-educated comments and opinions like that of "Tony Stark", below the video, calling Batman Returns a "turkey" and Michelle Pfeiffer a "decent actor" (his words, not mine).
Uh-huh. :)
That's awesome. I'm glad she's really cool about talking about it. I know alot of actors get tired of being asked to talk about one of their most popular, and best roles ever!
I mean, who else could have pulled that off? Certinly not Halle Berry...which I STILL say is a BR style Catwoman revamp. I mean comon! Meak woman, overpowering boss, who "kills" here, cats bring her back, she wants revenge, falls for a 'good guy', etc etc etc.
As we all know, BR was wayyyyyyyyyyyy better! I Like Halle...just not as Catwoman. So hopfully our next Ms. Kitty will be one 'worthy' of the role. And I personaly don't think Angie is the right canidate. I think somone like Rona Mitra (Underword: Rise Of The Lycans). She's beautiful, exotic, and 'felinesq'.
Just my opinion.
^ Catwoman began as a spin-off project from Batman Returns. Dan Waters wrote a script, Tim Burton was interested in directing, and Michelle Pfeiffer would have reprised the role. For various reasons, it was never made as such. Years later, the idea of a Catwoman film was dusted off, given to a hack director and used as a vehicle for a spoiled actress, and thus the film we got.
Though I will say - I haven't seen a copy of Dan Waters' Catwoman script, but I have read his synopsis of it, and it didn't sound much better.
Quote from: Kyle Grey on Wed, 17 Jun 2009, 17:34
That's awesome. I'm glad she's really cool about talking about it. I know alot of actors get tired of being asked to talk about one of their most popular, and best roles ever!
I mean, who else could have pulled that off? Certinly not Halle Berry...which I STILL say is a BR style Catwoman revamp. I mean comon! Meak woman, overpowering boss, who "kills" here, cats bring her back, she wants revenge, falls for a 'good guy', etc etc etc.
As we all know, BR was wayyyyyyyyyyyy better! I Like Halle...just not as Catwoman. So hopfully our next Ms. Kitty will be one 'worthy' of the role. And I personaly don't think Angie is the right canidate. I think somone like Rona Mitra (Underword: Rise Of The Lycans). She's beautiful, exotic, and 'felinesq'.
Just my opinion.
I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but I don't think Halle Berry was a bad choice for Catwoman. I was actually looking forward to seeing what she could do with the role. In fact, Berry would have been near-perfect for a faithful take on the character (the abused orphan turned vigilante/protector). If anyone's seen Monster's Ball, Losing Isiah or Jungle Fever, they'll know that Berry can act (forget X-Men, the character of Storm wasn't that well-written).
Unfortunately, the creators of 'Catwoman' had no idea what to do with the project, and the screenplay (whilst not as bad as some have suggested, IMO) was badly misconceived. Like you say Kyle Grey, Patience Phillips was a poor rip-off of Michelle Pfeiffer's brilliant take on the character (mild, meek employee 'killed' by ruthless industrialist).
Where I disagree with you is on the casting of a future Catwoman. Personally, I'd love to see Angelina Jolie in the role since she looks like the traditional Catwoman, but honestly I'd be happy with many talented actresses of the moment (including Rachel Weitz, Marian Cotillard, Zoe Saldana, Charlize Theron among others), but not Rona Mitra. IMHO, she can't act, all of her head-lining films have been flops, and she has a slightly ****ty look about her which I don't find sexy. The same applies for the overrated Megan Fox. Catwoman may come from the streets, but she should give off an aura of class and sophistication. Still, I trust that Nolan will find the right person for the role. Generally, he's been right for the most part so far.
Quote from: zDBZ on Wed, 17 Jun 2009, 17:44
^ Catwoman began as a spin-off project from Batman Returns. Dan Waters wrote a script, Tim Burton was interested in directing, and Michelle Pfeiffer would have reprised the role. For various reasons, it was never made as such. Years later, the idea of a Catwoman film was dusted off, given to a hack director and used as a vehicle for a spoiled actress, and thus the film we got.
Though I will say - I haven't seen a copy of Dan Waters' Catwoman script, but I have read his synopsis of it, and it didn't sound much better.
No offense zDBZ, but how is Halle Berry 'spoiled'? Her father left her when she was very young, she grew up dealing with racist taunts due to being a mixed-race women, she has had to deal with diabetes and she suffered abuse by her former husband. How is any of that spoiled? She's hardly Paris Hilton, and I mean that in a good way.
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Wed, 17 Jun 2009, 17:53
Quote from: zDBZ on Wed, 17 Jun 2009, 17:44
^ Catwoman began as a spin-off project from Batman Returns. Dan Waters wrote a script, Tim Burton was interested in directing, and Michelle Pfeiffer would have reprised the role. For various reasons, it was never made as such. Years later, the idea of a Catwoman film was dusted off, given to a hack director and used as a vehicle for a spoiled actress, and thus the film we got.
Though I will say - I haven't seen a copy of Dan Waters' Catwoman script, but I have read his synopsis of it, and it didn't sound much better.
No offense zDBZ, but how is Halle Berry 'spoiled'? Her father left her when she was very young, she grew up dealing with racist taunts due to being a mixed-race women, she has had to deal with diabetes and she suffered abuse by her former husband. How is any of that spoiled? She's hardly Paris Hilton, and I mean that in a good way.
I'm referring to her ego as a star; her complaints about the X-Men films despite the fact that her character saved the world in the third film, her grabbing for one major blockbuster to turn into her own vehicle after another, etc.
i hate halle berry and it isn't even because of catwoman. i didn't see it because it was her, not because i heard it was bad.
it should have been ashley judd. nuff said.
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Wed, 17 Jun 2009, 17:50
but honestly I'd be happy with many talented actresses of the moment (including Charlize Theron)
ok, THATS nuff said. lol.
Quote from: zDBZ on Wed, 17 Jun 2009, 18:16
I'm referring to her ego as a star; her complaints about the X-Men films despite the fact that her character saved the world in the third film, her grabbing for one major blockbuster to turn into her own vehicle after another, etc.
I take on board what you're saying zDBZ. I don't entirely agree with you since I like Halle Berry, but I can see how she might have annoyed a few X-men fans. I heard that she got into some arguments with Brian Singer on the second film, and told him to "kiss her black ass", probably because she didn't feel her character was getting her dues.
Overall, her behaviour on one film doesn't make her a spoiled person, and I do think she was capable of playing a decent Catwoman (more so than Storm which should arguably have gone to a genuine African-born actress, or someone like Iman).
I also agree with you about Dan Waters Catwoman script. I really loved his work for Batman Returns and Heathers; he had a brilliant handle on the characters, but having read the synopsis for his Catwoman film, I couldn't imagine it being any better than the finished product.
Quote from: catwoman on Wed, 17 Jun 2009, 18:21
i hate halle berry and it isn't even because of catwoman. i didn't see it because it was her, not because i heard it was bad.
it should have been ashley judd. nuff said.
Ashley Judd?!? No... ::)
it was her first and then she left and thats why we got halle. so yes.
don't make me slap you.
:P
Quote from: catwoman on Wed, 17 Jun 2009, 18:38
it was her first and then she left and thats why we got halle. so yes.
don't make me slap you.
:P
I remember from the movie news, but what I'm saying is what has Ashley Judd actually done? Halle Berry's a much better actress in my opinion. Ashley Judd is just...meh.
*slap*
Quote from: catwoman on Wed, 17 Jun 2009, 19:03
*slap*
Maybe you should have whipped me instead! ;)
ok
*swings whip, hits herself*
OWWWWWWW :(
Quote from: catwoman on Wed, 17 Jun 2009, 20:05
ok
*swings whip, hits herself*
OWWWWWWW :(
Such a blonde! ::)
Halle Berry is a hack, I dont remember one good performance from her.
Quote from: DarkVengeance on Wed, 17 Jun 2009, 23:39
Halle Berry is a hack, I dont remember one good performance from her.
I think you're being very unfair. If you haven't already watched Monster's Ball, Losing Isiah or Jungle Fever, I would recommend that you do. The performances she gives in those films are brilliant and I can't think of many other actresses who could honestly play those roles. Unfortunately, she's had the bad luck/bad judgment to turn up in a lot of rubbish genre films of late (as opposed to good genre films like Burton's Batman films).
Also, bear in mind that she's the first black woman to win a Best Actress Oscar, and Hollywood doesn't usually give out many great roles to black women. Even Angela Bassett, another great black actress has had to retreat to TV and bit parts in rubbish films.
I know, Ive seen Monsters Ball and it was pretty good, I just dont personally care for her acting, its not there worst thing Ive ever seen, but for some reason she just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. :-X
Quote from: DarkVengeance on Thu, 18 Jun 2009, 01:40
I know, Ive seen Monsters Ball and it was pretty good, I just dont personally care for her acting, its not there worst thing Ive ever seen, but for some reason she just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. :-X
Fair enough. I don't agree with you about Halle Berry but at least you're honest, and you rightly recognise Monsters Ball as a decent film. :)
Ya Monsters Ball is a pretty well made film! ;D
Good lord, I make one statement and everyone has a feild day with it! ;-) Thats ok. I see this is turning into a Berry-Bash more than Pfeiffer-Praise!
To each their own opinion. Im sure Nolan, if, and or when he chooses to do Catwoman, he will pic the propper canidate. Most likly some younger actress, Id love to see the 'Catowman: Her Sisters Keeper/Year 1" story be brought into the mix. Ofcourse it would be remixed by Hollywood, but I think it would really give the film somthing and give Catwoman a valid reason for being who she is. Not that Burtons take wasn't valid, it was a totally different direction, but I loved it!
Most people see Catwoman (the character) as just a Batman love/hating theif. And critics see Michelle's perfomance as this unstable, yet watchable character. (So ive read). However, i think if they introduce her 'revamp'/current origin, I think it would totally give the public a whole new look on our feline felon!
Just my thoughts...