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Title: Exploding Axis Chemicals
Post by: Kamdan on Fri, 20 Feb 2009, 04:15
Has it ever bothered anyone that Batman sent the Batmobile to blow up Axis Chemicals by remote control? It would have been so cool to him pop out of the cockpit than seeing him just appear from nowhere. That approach was in the comic, but not the movie. I would have understood it better had they done it with the Batmobile itself being the bomb, but jeeze!
Title: Re: Exploding Axis Chemicals
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 20 Feb 2009, 04:32
The remote control thing is way cooler. When I saw that scene for the first time, I absolutely loved it.
Title: Re: Exploding Axis Chemicals
Post by: batass4880 on Fri, 20 Feb 2009, 04:53
Quote from: Darrell Kaiser on Fri, 20 Feb  2009, 04:15
Has it ever bothered anyone that Batman sent the Batmobile to blow up Axis Chemicals by remote control? It would have been so cool to him pop out of the cockpit than seeing him just appear from nowhere. That approach was in the comic, but not the movie. I would have understood it better had they done it with the Batmobile itself being the bomb, but jeeze!

Thank god I'm not alone. I also thought it would've been sweet if he-himself drove the Batmobile into the factory and blown it up. Plus the car itself came out in one piece so it's not like there was any danger of himself being blown up. That would've looked so bad-ass!
Title: Re: Exploding Axis Chemicals
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 20 Feb 2009, 04:57
Well, he did direct the vehicle himself. I dont see how him being in the seat changes anything.
Title: Re: Exploding Axis Chemicals
Post by: Joker81 on Sun, 22 Feb 2009, 17:53
What??

Does everything in this forum have to be a debate!!!??

It makes perfect sense hes not in the car as how did he not know a big wall would come down and flaten the car!!

Would you go inside a building while blowing it up!??

Anyway, at least the 'Bat-turn' was born out of this sequence.
Title: Re: Exploding Axis Chemicals
Post by: Dark Knight Detective on Sun, 22 Feb 2009, 18:01
Quote from: Joker81 on Sun, 22 Feb  2009, 17:53
Anyway, at least the 'Bat-turn' was born out of this sequence.

He first displayed that right before he left the Axis Chemical Factory after Napier's fall.
Title: Re: Exploding Axis Chemicals
Post by: WingedFreak71 on Fri, 27 Feb 2009, 01:20
what pissed me off is the shot of the shot-put looking bomb being dropped from the batmobile and then you kind of see it roll at an angle that would have sent it underneath the batmobile - could they not have filmed it where the bomb rolls away from the batmobile?
Title: Re: Exploding Axis Chemicals
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 27 Feb 2009, 01:28
Did you think the Batmobile was going to be stationary the whole time? I bet seconds after that shot, that car would have been out of there in a flash. Batman would have known the impact time once deployed, etc.
Title: Re: Exploding Axis Chemicals
Post by: WingedFreak71 on Fri, 27 Feb 2009, 01:39
if the batmobile had pulled away the second after that shot it would have been rolling over the bomb - they should have showed the bomb roll away - not back toward the batmobile

not filmed well
Title: Re: Exploding Axis Chemicals
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 27 Feb 2009, 02:18
Not filmed well? Rubbish. I just don't see that being an argument. I see the moment as being more realistic for it, myself.

It's just how things are. The bomb was going to roll where it wanted to, not where Batman wanted it. It could have rolled backwards, forwards, sideways or slantways. But it went that way, the physics or whatever decided that's where it would go. You might want it to roll in another direction, but doesn't mean it's going to. It's just chance, and what happens in the moment.

And I doubt Batman could see little details such as that from where he was controlling the vehicle off in the distance. All he had to know was that the bomb had been deployed, and the time frame in which to get away from the initial explosion.

Underneath the bomb or directly next to it, it really wouldn't matter when the thing goes off. You're going to be dead all the same. The Batmobile would have cleared that area by then.
Title: Re: Exploding Axis Chemicals
Post by: Dark Knight Detective on Fri, 27 Feb 2009, 02:26
What I'd like to know is how the Joker & co. managed to get out of the factory just before it blew up? Was it coincidental or did he see Batman approaching the factory prior to this?
Title: Re: Exploding Axis Chemicals
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 27 Feb 2009, 02:28
Quote from: The Batman Returns on Fri, 27 Feb  2009, 02:26
What I'd like to know is how the Joker & co. managed to get out of the factory just before it blew up? Was it coincidental or did he see Batman approaching the factory prior to this?
I imagine he saw the Batmobile charging toward the complex, sent his goons to deal with the situation, whilst he prepared to leave in the helicopter.
Title: Re: Exploding Axis Chemicals
Post by: WingedFreak71 on Fri, 27 Feb 2009, 03:22
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Fri, 27 Feb  2009, 02:18
Not filmed well? Rubbish. I just don't see that being an argument. I see the moment as being more realistic for it, myself.

It's just how things are. The bomb was going to roll where it wanted to, not where Batman wanted it. It could have rolled backwards, forwards, sideways or slantways. But it went that way, the physics or whatever decided that's where it would go. You might want it to roll in another direction, but doesn't mean it's going to. It's just chance, and what happens in the moment.


listen it's a MOVIE where they can reshoot scenes until they seem the most realistic or feasible - the friggin bomb is headed under the car

you act like we were watching some real life baseball game where someone bunted a ball and maybe it's going foul or maybe it's not and we can't control what happens - it's a movie - Take 2 - drop it again and see if it doesn't look like it's rolling under the car
Title: Re: Exploding Axis Chemicals
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 27 Feb 2009, 03:59
You conveniently only quote half of my comments, WingedFreak.  You leave this bit out -

QuoteAnd I doubt Batman could see little details such as that from where he was controlling the vehicle off in the distance. All he had to know was that the bomb had been deployed, and the time frame in which to get away from the initial explosion.

Underneath the bomb or directly next to it, it really wouldn't matter when the thing goes off. You're going to be dead all the same. The Batmobile would have cleared that area by then.

I don't see the big deal. Look, I don't care where the bomb is headed. It doesn't matter, all that matters is it's located somewhere in that area. The Batmobile has roared off from that location by then. Batman is not going to sit the Batmobile there stationary waiting for the explosion.

You're blowing this way out of proportion. It's a non issue.