I think they will either use, The Riddler or Catwomen as the main villain for the next Nolan film. I also think they may bring in Joker's girlfriend Harley Quinn, and The Scarecrow as the sub-plot villains of the movie. I can see Selina Kyle being included in the movie, but probably will not appear as Catwomen until the film after this one, that's if they make another one.
The final cast for "The Dark Knight Part II"?....
Batman/Bruce Wayne-Christian Bale
The Riddler-Johnny Depp
Selina Kyle/Catwomen-Carrie-Anne Moss or Angelina Jolie
Harley Quinn-Jessica Alba
Alfred-Michael Caine
Gordon-Gary Oldman
The Scarecrow-Cillian Murphy
Sal Maroni-Eric Roberts
Carmine Falcone-Tom Wilkinson
Lucius Fox-Morgan Freeman
Unknown character-Joe Pantoliano
Does anyone agree or disagree??
QuoteThe Riddler-Johnny Depp
Selina Kyle/Catwomen-Carrie-Anne Moss or Angelina Jolie
Harley Quinn-Jessica Alba
Dear lord, no!
And isn't Maroni dead?
I argee with colors Johnny Depp would make a great Riddler just not a Nolan Riddler and i think he has to much respect for Burton to star in Nolan's movie but then again he might not.
QuoteI think they will either use, The Riddler or Catwomen as the main villain for the next Nolan film. I also think they may bring in Joker's girlfriend Harley Quinn, and The Scarecrow as the sub-plot villains of the movie. I can see Selina Kyle being included in the movie, but probably will not appear as Catwomen until the film after this one, that's if they make another one.
So there making four now?? I hope they only make one more but after seeing TDK i don't think there really needs to be another movie. But if they do i would like to see just Scarecrow they did a really crappy job with him in the first 2 movies.
Perhaps The Harpy will be the next villian, though I'm holding out for Egghead.
I'd like Catwoman to be in the film. Jolie is an obvious choice for Catwoman, but I'm not sure about it. Too obvious.
I'd like Penguin in it, as a mob boss. Throw in Riddler as well.
It's a pity the series may become villian of the week, it would have been nice to see a re-occurring character in the films.
Well, I think they are going to choose The Riddler as the next villain. They may use Harley Quinn as an apprentice of the Riddler's. And Scarecrow may finally become a serious villain when he joins forces with Riddler and Harley. Selina Kyle could also be in the picture but she may not become Catwomen until the end of the movie, probably to help Batman battle the 3 other villains.
I also wasn't aware that Sal Maroni died, but thinking of it now...I guess he could have died when the car flipped. But, how could Harvey Dent survive the car accident??? So I'm hoping Sal Maroni survived. I'm also hoping they will bring back Carmine Falcone in the next movie.
Well, Gordon said that Two Face whacked five people, two of which were cops. All I can think of is the cop, the bartender, the Maroni driver and Maroni himself. The fifth one eludes me. If you take away the Maroni hit, I can't think of who else he killed.
Maybe he did kill Ramerez, but they just didn't show it.
Quote from: Joker89 on Thu, 7 Aug 2008, 16:15
But, how could Harvey Dent survive the car accident???
Before he shot the driver, Dent gripped the seat belt and held it to himself. He would have braced himself better than Maroni.
I think I know the 5 people that were killed.
1)The police officer that was shot by the Joker. The death I guess was pinned on Harvey Dent even though the hospital blew up.
2)The Detective that was shot by Two-Face at the bar.
3)Maroni's bodyguard....yes, that's right, someone was going to enter the other side of Maroni's car, but you see him being strangled in the backround.
3)Maroni's Driver, who was shot by Two-Face.
5)I think he killed Ramerez even though he told her she would live.
Which means Sal Maroni is still alive!!
Quote from: Joker89 on Fri, 8 Aug 2008, 15:07
I think I know the 5 people that were killed.
1)The police officer that was shot by the Joker. The death I guess was pinned on Harvey Dent even though the hospital blew up.
2)The Detective that was shot by Two-Face at the bar.
3)Maroni's bodyguard....yes, that's right, someone was going to enter the other side of Maroni's car, but you see him being strangled in the backround.
3)Maroni's Driver, who was shot by Two-Face.
5)I think he killed Ramerez even though he told her she would live.
Which means Sal Maroni is still alive!!
I don't think Ramerez was killed, Two Face accepts the odds.
I'm not sure about Maroni's bodyguard, perhaps Maroni was set up by his own people? Also what about the cop that was in Dent's hospital room to start with? The one that didn't answer the radio and caused the second to go looking for him.
Yeesh, Two Face's bodycount is even more muddled than I thought. The Nolans REALLY should've taken the time to elaborate a bit more on this.
Nolan has the entire third film to clear this up and elaborate. This plot point isn't going away anytime soon. Two-Face's deeds and death are going to have lasting consequences.
If maroni isn't dead then Batman taking the blame to scare gotham's underbelly is a waste of time.
I'm fairly certain Maroni is dead.
Maybe so. But Falcone's not dead! They should bring him back in the next film. Along with The Riddler, The Scarecrow, and Harley Quinn too!
"The Dark Knight Part II"(Nolan's third film) should lead up to another (fourth) sequel that should include the introduction of Dick Grayson a.k.a. Robin with Batman taking on Catwoman, and The Riddler(again). The next film(Nolans fifth film), should have The Penguin and Mr. Freeze teaming up to ice Gotham with Batman and Robin finally forming a partnership to stop them from doing so. They should then end the Nolan series after that. Warner Bros. should also come out with a serious Batman:Beyond film, involving new villains and familiar ones such as Bane, Clayface, The Ventriloquist and Scarface, etc.
I love Mr. Freeze, but I don't think you can do a realistic take on someone who needs to keep their body below freezing point and has an ice cannon as a weapon.
This whole franchise is unrealistic, but Nolan has established boundaries for how far into fantasy his take on the Batman universe will go. I think Mr. Freeze lies outside that boundary, and there's no way to tone him down enough without violating what makes the character who he is.
If you alter Mr. Freeze's basic identity - that he can't exist at a temperature above freezing - then you've entirely lost the character, since everything about Mr. Freeze is bound up in that. And I say this as a huge fan of the character. His episodes are among the best in the Animated Series (which was the first version of Batman to make him a worthwhile character). I just don't think he's a natural pick for the Nolanverse, just like Man-Bat or Clayface.
Nevermind that I have a really hard time making him fit the plot or thematic direction of what part III, given what The Dark Knight lays out for it to accomplish.
Nolan should (and will) keep his three films consistent with one another on this point. Then he'll bow out, and then let somebody else start taking it in a different direction. I want Begins, The Dark Knight, and part III to run pretty smoothly together.
I think Nolan's job for the third film is to take a somewhat less impressive villain and transform them into someone on the level of the greats. It's doable (heck, Mr. Freeze was a worthless character until the animated series came around), even with folks like the Riddler. Yes, the Riddler as he's known now couldn't carry a film... but maybe Nolan's Riddler could.
The Animated Series and Hush did do a great job of giving the Riddler some menace, but not depth, and that's really the battle Nolan has to fight. It wouldn't be easy, but I'd love to see what Nolan could come up with given room to play with the character.
You put a Nolanized Riddler as the head honcho (but more of a background mastermind working through other folks), have Catwoman in there to throw in her brand of romance and confusion, and then put in David Cain as an assassin hired by the dwindling criminal element in a last-ditch attempt to take out Batman, and you have the beginnings of one solid narrative. Maybe you could even bring Hugo Strange in.
At some point, I'd like to see a vision between Nolan's and a more fantastical approach (perhaps the next director after Nolan can push into that territory), but for this initial trilogy, I want the Nolan approach as established in Begins. I love it. Thankfully, I'm 100% sure I'll get that. Nolan's not going to violate the rules he already put in place.
Nolan can still have an evil bald guy inside a freezing suit. Why not?
Goyer has made statements saying that there are certain villains that they just wont even consider for "their" version of the Batman world. Clayface, Manbat, Freeze, Catwoman(dont know why on that one), and Penguin were all examples that he gave. He also stated that if they all return to do a 3rd, they already have a villain and a theme planned, and it may not be an obvious choice.
Then, the villain might be a slightly revamped version of a less fancy villain, played by a heavyweight name (like Liam Neeson in Batman Begins). The Riddler could fit in somewhere, like the Scarecrow. It might also be a woman, but it would be too soap-operish to introduce Ra's Al Ghul's daughter (Dahlia?) as a villain and love interest.
Talia.
I dont know. We have afew years before we'll see another film, so theres time. After TDK, Im sure they can deliver something good.
Oy, this is why I don't like realism in superhero movies.
Quote from: Joker89 on Tue, 12 Aug 2008, 21:49
Nolan can still have an evil bald guy inside a freezing suit. Why not?
I have explained in great detail as to why not.
I don't see Nolan useing freeze but then again you never know?. I could see him using Bane though.
Quote from: Sandman on Thu, 14 Aug 2008, 09:37
I don't see Nolan useing freeze but then again you never know?. I could see him using Bane though.
Nolan will not use Freeze. Period. He has set the rules for his universe. I'd like him to tackle Bane, too.
What do you mean i just know Nolan wants to recast Arnold Schwarzenegger as freeze hahahahahaha.
Quote from: Sandman on Thu, 14 Aug 2008, 09:54
What do you mean i just know Nolan wants to recast Arnold Schwarzenegger as freeze hahahahahaha.
:-\ Don't kid around like that. Just don't. ;D
I have a feeling the 'Catwoman' embargo will be lifted as, without Rachel, there is no strong female character in the next film, and an all male revue just will not work.
I have posted this thought elsewhere, but I have a feeling they are going to dig deeper in to the Rogues gallery, and give us a 'Hush' style mystery for part 3. I think part of the theme will be public redemption, and part of it will deal with Batman's trials and tribulations while on the wrong side of public perception--in a word, identity.
Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised if The Black Mask were used to be a mirror to Wayne/Batman. He would be the heavy, but Batman would also interact with Catwoman. Riddler could be introduced early on in the film, and at the end of the film, I wouldn't be surprised to see an epilogue ala 'Hush' with Batman and Riddler in lock up. In other words, everyone was a pawn in Riddler's game.
This could be balanced quite well. Nolan has been known to use multiple villains in his films:
BB: Ra's, League of Shadows, Scarecrow, Zsas, Falcone
TDK: Joker, Two Face, Scarecrow, Maroni
TDK 2: Riddler, Black Mask, Catwoman
If they opt out of the Catwoman option, the other option is Talia Head, but I truly hope she is not in the film--it would be a little 'Fright Night 2' for my taste.
Catwoman could be brought into the story via Falcone (if they decide to use his character again, or even give him a cameo, or a brief mention) a la the Loeb/Sale stories.
I think there's potential for a strong sequel. Although I adore Burton's take on Batman, I do think TDK has the strongest script to date for Batman films, and TDK2 could possibly continue that tradition.
I don't think Talia al Ghul and the League of Assassins should appear. It doesn't really fit the arc of how things should progress (film #3 needs to be about Batman becoming a more permanent protector of Gotham against the new breed of freaks, not fighting some outside foe).
Poison Ivy, if utilized, shouldn't be super-powered. I have no interest in seeing some chlorophyl-powered mutant in Nolan's universe. However, her origin wouldn't have to be thrown out entirely... the experiments performed on her can be the source of her madness, but sans superpowers. (And to be honest, I wouldn't really use the character... I don't think she's particularly interesting.)
it would have to be a prehaps mob based, thug type character like pengy or someone along those lines. Nolan's concepts don't leave very much open and frankly, even in tdk, the mob thuggie thing was getting stale.
"never say never" because you don't know what happens behind the scenes, unless of course you are writing the actual story. Even if they say "we're not using that villain." whose to say they're telling the truth? Steven Spielberg told the Indiana Jones fans that the special effects in KOTCS would be traditional effects, and guess what? They we everything but traditional. So there!
Quote from: Joker89 on Sat, 16 Aug 2008, 07:45
"never say never" because you don't know what happens behind the scenes, unless of course you are writing the actual story. Even if they say "we're not using that villain." whose to say they're telling the truth? Steven Spielberg told the Indiana Jones fans that the special effects in KOTCS would be traditional effects, and guess what? They we everything but traditional. So there!
Look, Nolan has laid down his rules. Freeze or villains similar to him will not happen on his watch. Spielberg and the abomination that is KOTCS is another story I will get into if you demand it.
Ah, I know this is off topic, but here is is anyway.
I have grown to loathe KOTCS, after going out of my way to like it as to not tarnish the series. Just as the Cannes crowd were 'respectful' to the film. Imagine if they made TOD today, the rope bridge scene would have been totally CGI, taking away the charm of it all. No threat level or danger in the film whatsoever. To me excessive CGI is just plain slack. In the days before CGI, they had to be creative and think up these situations and scenarios. I rank KOTCS last in the Indiana Jones stakes. It is not even in the same league as the first three.
I don?t know how anyone can place it above any of the originals, which have the advantage of being made back in the day. This film is going through the motions. There is nothing standout about this film except what is wrong with it. It is going to be remembered for the wrong reasons.
I know Indiana Jones is just a bunch of fun, but this was totally implausible and silly. Stupid scenes involving fridges, driving off cliffs onto rubber trees, cheesy stereotypical aliens looking directly at the camera, flying saucers, vine swinging, multiple waterfalls, computer generated ants that pull men down holes, etc. For the aliens, I'm fine with them, but it is how they are used that is absolutely terrible.
The high box office was a given. People went in expecting something similar to the first three. Except all what was happening was a cash in off memories that can not be replicated. So why try? People could have been talking about the almost mythical 'what if' regarding Indiana Jones 4 if it was never made. Well, now it is here people know exactly what they received.
I wouldn?t have made it. This film has stained the product in people?s eyes, mine included. It may have been alright if they filmed a decent script, not this nonsense. I will chose to live in ignorance that this was even made. They should have remained back in 1989 with pride, reputation and quality intact, being a cherished memory. If this is the last, it is a very poor lasting impression to leave on the audience. Even if another is made, the series runs the risk of falling deeper into the mire. It is better to fade away gracefully than to burn out.
Johnny Depp as Riddler:
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Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 16 Aug 2008, 08:07
Quote from: Joker89 on Sat, 16 Aug 2008, 07:45
"never say never" because you don't know what happens behind the scenes, unless of course you are writing the actual story. Even if they say "we're not using that villain." whose to say they're telling the truth? Steven Spielberg told the Indiana Jones fans that the special effects in KOTCS would be traditional effects, and guess what? They we everything but traditional. So there!
Look, Nolan has laid down his rules. Freeze or villains similar to him will not happen on his watch. Spielberg and the abomination that is KOTCS is another story I will get into if you demand it.
Ah, I know this is off topic, but here is is anyway.
I have grown to loathe KOTCS, after going out of my way to like it as to not tarnish the series. Just as the Cannes crowd were 'respectful' to the film. Imagine if they made TOD today, the rope bridge scene would have been totally CGI, taking away the charm of it all. No threat level or danger in the film whatsoever. To me excessive CGI is just plain slack. In the days before CGI, they had to be creative and think up these situations and scenarios. I rank KOTCS last in the Indiana Jones stakes. It is not even in the same league as the first three.
I don?t know how anyone can place it above any of the originals, which have the advantage of being made back in the day. This film is going through the motions. There is nothing standout about this film except what is wrong with it. It is going to be remembered for the wrong reasons.
I know Indiana Jones is just a bunch of fun, but this was totally implausible and silly. Stupid scenes involving fridges, driving off cliffs onto rubber trees, cheesy stereotypical aliens looking directly at the camera, flying saucers, vine swinging, multiple waterfalls, computer generated ants that pull men down holes, etc. For the aliens, I'm fine with them, but it is how they are used that is absolutely terrible.
The high box office was a given. People went in expecting something similar to the first three. Except all what was happening was a cash in off memories that can not be replicated. So why try? People could have been talking about the almost mythical 'what if' regarding Indiana Jones 4 if it was never made. Well, now it is here people know exactly what they received.
I wouldn?t have made it. This film has stained the product in people?s eyes, mine included. It may have been alright if they filmed a decent script, not this nonsense. I will chose to live in ignorance that this was even made. They should have remained back in 1989 with pride, reputation and quality intact, being a cherished memory. If this is the last, it is a very poor lasting impression to leave on the audience. Even if another is made, the series runs the risk of falling deeper into the mire. It is better to fade away gracefully than to burn out.
I have to completely disagree with your thoughts of Indy4. (Sorry to go off topic) The whole point of the 'implausible and silliness' was SUPPOSED to be there. It's a B movie concept. Especially the fridge gag, which took way too much heat, was done to give you a definitive idea of the time through B movie vision goggles while at the same time showing you how much Indy is now out of place in the world. The silhouette of him against the mushroom cloud was epic proof of this. The idea was to polished it to add to Indy?s out of placeness
I think the point that was trying to be made before is that things change. Maybe when the TDK writers discover that they?ve done just about all they can with Batman generically hacking through street thugs and villains that are only really post 9/11 inspired terrorists in different outfits (Nolan?s take on Ra?s, Joker, Scarecrow) they might want to shake up a bit with someone a bit more colorful and fun (that might require some cgi) and hasn't been watered down by nolan's realism. The word here is?.fun. Something sorely lacking from a comic book film that wants to be instead be a dry as bones crime drama that clumsily meshes elements from csi, the godfather, and the untouchables.
Which is why I still think they can use Mr. Freeze, The Penguin, Catwoman, etc. I mean really, why not? Just because they said so??
Like I said, Nolan can still figure out a way to make things work. He could easily base a story involving Dr. Freeze declaring war on Batman. He probably wouldn't even have to be "abnormal". He could just be a highly intelligent individual(almost an Anthony Hopkins_Silence of the Lambs approach)who makes his own freezing suit to punish his enemies.
I can see Catwoman, Penguin and Riddler fitting just fine into Nolan's world. My first choice would be Catwoman. I think she could pose a physical threat to Batman in a way that would be hard for him to deal with.
Riddler would also be great because I think a story with him would bring out the detective side to Batman's persona that hasn't been that strong in the previous films. I wouldn't cast Depp as Riddler though. I don't see him fitting in any Batman movie.
Maybe Joe Pantoliano as The Riddler? Angelina Jolie as Catwoman?
Quote from: Joker89 on Wed, 27 Aug 2008, 02:35
Which is why I still think they can use Mr. Freeze, The Penguin, Catwoman, etc. I mean really, why not? Just because they said so??
If they have said they won't be appearing, they wont be. Simple as that.
They do not fit this universe.
If Nolan doesn't use those Villains, then I'm pretty sure that some other Director who takes over the Batman franchise will gladly script them into a film.
Well, it will be a totally different universe, seperated from Nolan. Then it is a new ball game, those villains would be fair game.
Not necessarily. This can be brought up with the original series. Look at the difference between Schumacher and Burtons styles, and its in the same "universe". "Realsitic" takes can be done on all the characters if researched and presented correctly.
Im not one to look too deeply into movies, I enjoy them for the entertainment they're meant to be, but remember a couple of the lines Joker said in TDK.
"This is how crazy Batmans made Gotham."
"Youve changed things. Forever."
"They'll have to double up at the rate this city's inhabitants are losing their minds."
It could all be a precursor to whats up the Nolan teams sleeve. You never know. I mean look at how they did Two Face. "Realisticaly" he would never have been able to walk around and talk and move his eyeball like that.
Nolan made Two-Face look like The Terminator, who happens to be a very fictional character. So once again I stand by my statement that ALL villains of the Batman universe can be scripted in any Batman film.
Hm. This sounds like an idea. Why not present a list of Batvillains and try to make them fit into Nolans world. It could be intersting to see what we can come up with.
They have already said characters like Penguin and Catwoman wouldnt be used. I dont see why not.
Catwoman - Selina Kyle, socialite new comer to Gotham who gets her kicks from stealing from the very people she mingles with. In the latest comic books they grounded her costume more in the "real world" and moved away from the more cat motif. She can serve as the love interest and as an adversary. Could be very intersting.
Penguin - I have to completely agree with what Jett just posted about the character. Its what I was thinking myself. Owner of the Iceberg Lounge. Seemingly "straight" business man but has ties with the Gotham mobs. Now that they are basically gone, Penguin now makes his power play for Gotham. He can be short in stature, a big nose and because of this has earned the nickname "Penguin".
Riddler - Well, he is pretty straight forward. Normal looking guy with an affection for leaving riddles with his crimes. I just cant see him as a genuine threat.
Ive got more, but what have you guys got?
Cool idea mabye you should start a new thread about it with Burton aswell as Nolan see how many different versions of these Villians you can make for each director's universe.
I can totally see the Penguin idea coming to life. He probably would be a gangster with a nickname, if anything.
Quote from: Joker89 on Tue, 9 Sep 2008, 02:59
Nolan made Two-Face look like The Terminator, who happens to be a very fictional character. So once again I stand by my statement that ALL villains of the Batman universe can be scripted in any Batman film.
I don't think so. Two Face was done very realistically. And get real, not all Batman villains can be scripted in a realistic world.
Quote from: raleagh on Sat, 13 Sep 2008, 08:56
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 13 Sep 2008, 04:48
Two Face was done very realistically.
?
You're joking, right?
I'm sure someone brave enough to do an internet search could verify how realistic or not realistic it is.
Well appearance wise he wasn't very realistic. He would have been in so much pain a butterfly could take him down.
Quote from: Sandman on Sat, 13 Sep 2008, 10:45
Well apperance wise he wasn't very realistic.
Well, I disagree strongly. He was severely barbecued. With those deep cuts and burns, he had definitely something to be totally wild and mentally unstable about. The make up and CGI guys did an excellent job.
True and after all it's just a movie.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 13 Sep 2008, 10:54
He was severely barbecued. With those deep cuts and burns, he had definitely something to be totally wild and mentally unstable about. The make up and CGI guys did an excellent job.
Without doubt. However, in reality his body would have gone into shock or he would have been subject to massive infection again causing him to go into shock or cardiac arrest.
Quote from: Sandman on Sat, 13 Sep 2008, 11:00
True and after all it's just a movie.
And
that's what it's all about!
Quote from: raleagh on Sat, 13 Sep 2008, 11:03
Quote from: Sandman on Sat, 13 Sep 2008, 11:00
True and after all it's just a movie.
And that's what it's all about!
Not to me. That's where we differ. It's more than a film. It is Batman.
Maybe Two-Face could have worn some type of "revealing mask" (Phantom of the Opera mask), to prevent an infection?
Quote from: Joker89 on Sat, 13 Sep 2008, 17:58
Maybe Two-Face could have worn some type of "revealing mask" (Phantom of the Opera mask), to prevent an infection?
True, he would have been in agonising pain. He didn't want it numbed with medication either. It probably was infected, so in a way his death spared him any more grisly side affects.
He was probably very weak. I don't know how bad that fall was but it killed him instantly.
QuoteNot to me. That's where we differ. It's more than a film. It is Batman.
In some ways yes in some ways no you find that Nolan's movies to be "The Batman" and don't like Tim Burton's movies, as i find Tim Burtons to be "The Batman" but i don't mind Nolan's films. It all comes down to personal opinion.
Since Nolan wanted to bring The Joker back for the sequel, I'm sure he would have no problem giving another actor the opportunity of filling in for Heath Ledger. After Katie Holmes was replaced.
My guess he would definately bring in Johnny Depp as a replacement. Simply because Johnny Depp is very similar to Heath Ledger, and I think he could actually pull it off.
New casting for The Dark Knight Returns
Bruce Wayne/Batman-Christian Bale
The Joker-Johnny Depp
Alfred-Michael Caine
The Riddler-Tim Roth
Selina Kyle/Catwoman-Jessica Biel
Commissioner Gordon-Gary Oldman
The Scarecrow-Cillian Murphy
Carmine Falcone-Tom Wilkinson
Lucius Fox-Morgan Freeman
I thought Goyer said in a recent interview they never had any intention on using Joker past this film? That they told his story, and that was that.
Maybe so. But it looked as if they intentionally left The Joker alive in the film, instead of killing him off, so that they could use him in the sequel.
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New casting for The Dark Knight Returns
Bruce Wayne/Batman-Christian Bale
The Joker-Johnny Depp
Alfred-Michael Caine
The Riddler-Tim Roth
Selina Kyle/Catwoman-Jessica Biel
Commissioner Gordon-Gary Oldman
The Scarecrow-Cillian Murphy
Carmine Falcone-Tom Wilkinson
Lucius Fox-Morgan Freeman
That's a awesome idea Tim Roth would make an exellent Riddler, smart thinking ;).
I hope nolen doesn't use the name The Dark Knight Returns unless for it to be a movie based on the GN, and if a movie like that is going to be made i SHOULD have Burton and Keaton
Tim Roth was my first choice for the Riddler character, but when the everyone started hyping Johnny Depp for the part I forgot about Tim Roth and went with Depp as The Riddler. Now I change my mind, and think that Depp would be a wonderful replacement Joker. Roth would have a great chemistry with Bale. I'm not sure who will be playing Catwoman but I think Jessica Biel would be really smokin' hot in a Catwoman outfit(she was actually dressed as catwoman in I Now Pronounce you, Chuck & Larry).
Quote from: Joker89 on Thu, 18 Sep 2008, 22:19
Maybe so. But it looked as if they intentionally left The Joker alive in the film, instead of killing him off, so that they could use him in the sequel.
they probably just didnt want to make a mistake by killing him off like Burton did in 89.
I'm also sure they did it so they could bring Ledger back for the next film.
QuoteI'm also sure they did it so they could bring Ledger back for the next film.
I don't know i remember there being a whole thing when Heath Ledger died abut Nolan changing the ending around and shooting new scenes, mabye Ledger was going to come back for the 3rd movie?.
Quotethey probably just didnt want to make a mistake by killing him off like Burton did in 89.
Once again...Nolan had everything Burton didn't when he made his movies, Batman had already been taken seriously in live action movies and people know of him as a serious character as when Burton made his movies everyone pretty much knew Batman as a campy tv character, Nolan had 16 years of special effects upgrades and probley the most important thing nolan had a guaranteed sequal which is somthing Tim Burton never got, so not wanting to leave an open ending to a movie that no one had any idea would flop or not they killed The Joker.
All the past films, except B&R that have had 2 villians have killed one and kept one.
Who would you rather see die - Two Face or The Joker?
Depends if it's Tommy Lee Jones Two-Face i'd kill him myself.
Quote from: Sandman on Mon, 22 Sep 2008, 08:55
Depends if it's Tommy Lee Jones Two-Face i'd kill him myself.
LOL!
I understand filmakers killing off the bad guys at the end. For decades that's what most movie goers felt was the thing to do. It added closure to the film. I think the attitude is changing and leaving it open ended is more accepted these days.
I personally feel most if not all Batman villians should remain alive at the end of each film. That's what Arkham is for and it would be more in line with the comics to do so.
Depp is an excellent choice to make an appearence as Joker in later films but I'd like for Nolan to move on to someone different for now. Catwoman is one of my top choices.
Before seeing The Dark Knight. I originally thought Nolan would kill off The Joker and keep Two-Face alive for the next film. After seeing the film, I was a little upset that they didn't stand by that concept. Because Two-Face was a new character and I felt that his performance as a villain could have been stronger by the next film had they let him live. This way Two-Face would build his character up by the next film and he could mix that chemistry with a new villain such as The Penguin or, Catwoman.
Quote from: Joker89 on Mon, 22 Sep 2008, 15:44
Before seeing The Dark Knight. I originally thought Nolan would kill off The Joker and keep Two-Face alive for the next film. After seeing the film, I was a little upset that they didn't stand by that concept. Because Two-Face was a new character and I felt that his performance as a villain could have been stronger by the next film had they let him live. This way Two-Face would build his character up by the next film and he could mix that chemistry with a new villain such as The Penguin or, Catwoman.
I agree somewhat. I was a little put off that Two Face never went after Joker and the final climax wasn't Two Face trying to kill him and Batman trying to talk him out of it, 'One Rule? vs. 'Old Fashioned Justice.' The fact that they undermined Joker in a lame skirmish that leaves him dangling from a wire with no resolution so that Two Face can babble for ten minutes in a contrived excuse to kill Gordon?s kid was a let down.
Two-Face did babble alot. Which is why I think he would have been a better villain by the next film, had Nolan let the Two-Face character be.
Everyone babbles alot in nolans movies. Esp Two-Face, Joker an Batman.
I only enjoyed Joker's babbling, the others, not so much.
Yea i know what you mean, i like Joker's lines there were not masterful poetic art like people go on about but they were 1000 time better then Batmans 4 hour rants.
I couldn't understand what Batman was even saying half the time!! His voice was way too raspy.
Quote from: Joker89 on Fri, 26 Sep 2008, 17:04
I couldn't understand what Batman was even saying half the time!! His voice was way too raspy.
you can thank Wb for modifying his voice in the studio during the wrapping up of the film, in my opinion Bales Batman voice was perfect for an exhausted guy going through complete hell and dealing with the worst things possible that he could have to deal with.
Maybe they'll undo it on the DVD release. Studios do that all the time. I wouldn't see why not, after all people actually complained about Bale's voice being the only flaw in the film. So lets cross our fingers!
I highly doubt the studio will change anything, the film is the biggest film of the year, its Nolans personal cut of the film, nothing will be changed from theatrical to home video.
George Lucas changed many things on the Revenge of the Sith DVD. Palpatine's vocal performance was re-mixed a couple of times. I think that Nolan will probably choose to re-mix the vocals of Christian Bale.
Quote from: Joker89 on Mon, 13 Oct 2008, 19:43
George Lucas changed many things on the Revenge of the Sith DVD. Palpatine's vocal performance was re-mixed a couple of times.
In case you're talking about the scene after Mace Windu's death, that's already been that way in the theatrical version. Here's a discussion interpreting the changing voice.
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As far as I know, there is nothing different from the theatrical release, except maybe a couple of trimmed frames from one of Anakin's close-ups during the immolation, although that wasn't confirmed.
TPM had a couple of new scenes for the DVD (Anakin and Shmi before the race, 2nd Podrace lap, Coruscant Taxi) and AOTC had an extra line exchange during Anakin's confession of the Tusken Raider camp massacre to Padm? and it was made more obvious Jango Fett's Jet-Pack is damaged during his last few moments through added sparks.
Sorry for getting off topic.
I'm not sure Christopher Nolan would be open to remix the vocals of Christian Bale.
It might hurt their actor-director relationship, as Bale seems very determined on Batman's voice.
Quote from: Joker89 on Mon, 13 Oct 2008, 19:43
George Lucas changed many things on the Revenge of the Sith DVD. Palpatine's vocal performance was re-mixed a couple of times. I think that Nolan will probably choose to re-mix the vocals of Christian Bale.
what your thinking wont happen, Nolan is 100% sure of his cuts of his films, if you know his full film history, you'd know that!
^ You're right, its a shame they won't change it though, its one of the weakest aspects of the film for me.
By the way If I hear Depp's name associated with anything Batman related again Im gonna kill someone, he's such an overrated actor, and could NEVER do anything near what Ledger came up with, sorry thats a reality.
...But he already has with the OSCAR nominated Capt. Jack Sparrow ;D. And on top of that there is also Sweeney Todd, Secret Window, Blow, Sleepy Hollow and loads more.
Quote from: Sandman on Thu, 16 Oct 2008, 02:41
...But he already has with the OSCAR nominated Capt. Jack Sparrow ;D. And on top of that there is also Sweeney Todd, Secret Window, Blow, Sleepy Hollow and loads more.
Jack Sparrow is an overrated character, I dont like it one bit, and I think that trilogy is pretty crappy. Sweeney Todd, Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood, Blow Sleep Hollow are all amazing films, and I like his portrayals but those Pirated movies are pure crap to me, the first one was a "decent film" the other two, disney garbage.
I dont care what awards an actors won, thats a bunch of stuff shirt stuck up critics choosing who they think is good, why should I care about their opinion?
Their opinions dont make me think one way or another about a specific film or portrayal of a character, I dont really care what they have to say.
Johnny Depp is overrated!!!
I like Depp. I love Jack Sparrow. Different strokes I guess, but thats okay, if we all agree then things would be really boring.
Having said that, I also dont care to see Depp in a Batman movie.
Quote from: shadowbat69 on Sun, 19 Oct 2008, 01:34
I like Depp. I love Jack Sparrow. Different strokes I guess, but thats okay, if we all agree then things would be really boring.
Having said that, I also dont care to see Depp in a Batman movie.
Thats what Im really saying deep down, I just dont see it happening nor do I care personally! :D
Whoever posted that picture of Bane on the custom Batman poster thread, did an awesome job on it. I have completely restored my confidence in the Bane character and I could totally see him being used in the next film, along with The Riddler or Catwoman. I would prefer all three:)
Bane done right would be awesome. Though I think Batman and Robin is still a little fresh in people's minds to do him again.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Wed, 22 Oct 2008, 07:32
Bane done right would be awesome. Though I think Batman and Robin is still a little fresh in people's minds to do him again.
I'm not so sure. Average Joes doesn't even know who Bane is and the fans know better.
Maybe they'll use Bane for one scene in the beginning of the film, or something. Like what they did with The Scarecrow in TDK.
Bane could be used but he would have to be a minor character or a thug.
But in Nolan's world i doubt he would have the mask an suit.
Quote from: Sandman on Sat, 25 Oct 2008, 00:30
But in Nolan's world i doubt he would have the mask an suit.
Its possible, I wouldnt want to see him any other way. If instead of venom or serum he was using steroids, they could make him a much more realistic character!
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But in Nolan's world i doubt he would have the mask an suit.
Its possible, I wouldnt want to see him any other way. If instead of venom or serum he was using steroids, they could make him a much more realistic character!
If that's the route they go, why use him at all?
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But in Nolan's world i doubt he would have the mask an suit.
Its possible, I wouldnt want to see him any other way. If instead of venom or serum he was using steroids, they could make him a much more realistic character!
If that's the route they go, why use him at all?
Because it could be a new cool interpretation, it dosent have to be exactly like he is in the comics. Alot of comic book films in the past few years have obviously proved that they could use a good character do their own take on them, and they come out being done amazingly!
I had said before Bane could be done in Nolans movies. Venom is nothing more than a steriod. A super steriod, but something that could be done semi realisticaly. His costume isnt too outlandish. He could work.
The whole thing about venom is that it enhances someone's physical strength to almost superhuman levels immediately, whereas regular steroids need a lot more time to really kick in. Intelligence, cunning and venom are Bane's shtick. Hey, you want to change him from a South American to Los Angeles native? Go for it. You want to get rid of his little lackeys and make him into a hitman for hire like BTAS? Knock yourself out. But the character is what it is and changing it for "realism" kinda defeats the entire point.
Who said anything about "regular" sterioids? That fact that Venom is nothing more than a super steriod is "real" enough. Just like a poder that "immediately" causes a person to have intense visions of their phobia. C'mon, you act as if you want nothing more than the comic book incarnations of the characters, which is fine, but you wont get them in Nolans movies. They will have to be tweaked and changed a bit, which is what we're trying to figure out.
Bane has a shot at working pretty well.
Remember, any character they get has to be able to go on long winded monologues, so make sure you ake that into account when thinking of the next batch of villains or villain.
I think they'll most likely go with the Riddler.
Bane could do that. Remember, in the comics, Bane is highly intelligent.
MY main point I was attempting to make is that I like Bane as a character and would LOVE to see him in one of the upcoming Nolan films, even if they tweak him, it dosent bother me personally a bit.
I feel that if we did possibly get Bane only as a minor character, we could finally get Bats to have an iconic memorable fight scene, or more.
Quote from: shadowbat69 on Mon, 27 Oct 2008, 17:16
Bane could do that. Remember, in the comics, Bane is highly intelligent.
I didn't say he wasn't, that doesn't mean even as intellegent character that he'd look good babbling constantly, so I'm afraid i have to disagree. The Riddler on the other hand....
Well you could always make Bane a secondery Villian like Scarecrow was in BB, this would work better since there's no reason for him to be in Gotham unless just to take out Batman and if it's that then there just remaking the Joker plot.
Nolan could rip off some more idea's and go with the Universal Soldier rout, instead of having his Venom just change it to a gov. made super steriod that he has stolen or has been stolen for him that he needs to inject himself with to make himself stronger.
But they should also make him in great shape to start with instead of that B&R shrinking to a twig without the Venom, and he has to be highly intelligent esp for a nolan film which has as very well put by Gotham Knight has "long winded monologues".
^
Pretty much like the super soldier serum used in the recently released Hulk film, that Abomination is on and takes it too far with it, I think that could work very well!
YEAH, i was gonna say somthing about Blonsky before, but yea that works well it also give Bane abit of a story if he goes out of contorl because of the serum.
Quote from: Sandman on Tue, 28 Oct 2008, 23:32
YEAH, i was gonna say somthign about Blonsky before, but yea that works well it also give Bane abit of a story if he goes out of contorl because of the serum.
I totally agree on that one!
They could even have Bane do what he's famous for and break Batmans back, the good part about Nolan's world is that he has Lucius so he would have somthing to help him.
Quote from: Sandman on Wed, 29 Oct 2008, 07:15
They could even have Bane do what he's famous for and break Batmans back, the good part about Nolan's world is that he has Lucius so he would have somthing to help him.
It would be another great challenge to see Batman go through on his journey!
Yup Bane could work fine.
If they use the Catwoman I hope they cast Jennifer Garner because she reminds me of Julie Newmar. :-*
Quote from: batass4880 on Sat, 1 Nov 2008, 02:21
If they use the Catwoman I hope they cast Jennifer Garner because she reminds me of Julie Newmar. :-*
I wouldnt want that, it would only be treading on old ground, I want a new version of the character If I want to see Newmar's catwoman Ill go watch the old 60's tv show to see it, that would be boring, but thats just my take.
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erm.......why?
That looks amazing, but what is that doing in here? Two Face is dead as a door nail. He aint coming back.
I actually thought Alicia Silverstone was sexy as Batgirl in the Batman & Robin film! ;D Although I'm not suggesting there should ever be a Batgirl or even Robin in the new films. Side kicks are a big no no. I thought the whole point of Batman was that it's his own personal 'thing' and I prefer the idea of Batman working alone. 'THE AVENGER OF THE NIGHT'
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun, 2 Nov 2008, 12:10
That looks amazing, but what is that doing in here? Two Face is dead as a door nail. He aint coming back.
Agreed.
I would love if he came back but, but his story fit perfect for the film and I loved it for what it is!
Maybe Nolan will pull a 360 turn on us. We might not see it coming, but maybe Two-Face isn't dead. After all there wasn't a confirmed barriel for Harvey Dent....if there were one, as corrupt as Gotham is, maybe the body was never inside the coffin and maybe he was still alive and in exile, planning another attack on Gotham perhaps?
Are you suggesting it never occurred to Batman, Gordon, an entire police force or a coroner to check Dent's pulse??
Two-Face is dead end of story, Nolan isnt the kind of director to do something as stupid as bringing back a character from the dead, thats a Raimi type of mistake.
Who did Raimi bring back from the dead?
He didnt bring anyone back, it just seems like the kind of "cutting corners" he did with SM3, or like a Brett Ratner move of just killing of characters because they dont fit in the story, basically what Im saying is they made bad moves with their characters in their films, HUGE mistakes.
Since Bruce lost Rachael in TDK. I could imagine the introduction of a new love interest. Although, I'm not sure if thats going to be Catwoman. It could be Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, etc.
Nonetheless, I'm pretty sure they will pick Catwoman to be the main villain of the film, alongside The Riddler. Infact, they might go with the whole "Freezing Gotham" motif and have Mr. Freeze, and Peguin together in one film. But that would only happen in a Schumacher movie ;)
All I know is Nolan dosent really care for The Penguin or Catwoman at all!
Quote from: DarkVengeance on Tue, 11 Nov 2008, 21:03
All I know is Nolan dosent really care for The Penguin or Catwoman at all!
He should. They would work fine realistically.
hey I wish I could change his mind, but of course thats impossible.
It's sad but also good if you think about it. We already have a great live action Penguin and Catwoman, so it's not that big a deal if he doesn't use them, and in not useing them he make's way for villians we haven't scene yet like Matt Hatter or a non-retarded Bane.
I highly doubt we will ever see Mad Hatter in a live action interpretation of Batman.
Stacy Kiebler as Selina Kyle/Catwoman. Another cute blondie to take it up to Michelle. ;D
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Fri, 14 Nov 2008, 13:06
Stacy Kiebler as Selina Kyle/Catwoman. Another cute blondie to take it up to Michelle. ;D
YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would much rather see someone play Selina with actual real acting ability, not someone just for looks, Stacy is very overrated, theres a million women on this earth that look just as good as she does.
Would anyone be up for Cindy Crawford as Selina? I know she's not an actress but I can't help it. SHE'S SOOOOOO HOT!!!!
Exactly my point, why do people think an attractive woman with no good acting skills can pull off an amazing performance for a character we want to be see done amazingly? Its just silly to me, looks are not everything, plus Cindy is quite old now.
That's where got another thing perfect, not only was michelle a great actor but damn damn HOT!.
Quote from: Sandman on Sun, 16 Nov 2008, 04:14
That's where got another thing perfect, not only was michelle a great actor but damn damn HOT!.
I totally agree!
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Hoffman Im cool with that, Depp HELL NO! Why do so many people think that Depp is the main guy for this role? Also what makes you think he's really even interested in doing the role?
I agree, now i love Depp i think he's one of the top 3 actor's in the world atm, but he's just not right for Nolan's movie. I wish people would get off it.
Quote from: Sandman on Sun, 23 Nov 2008, 00:00
I agree, now i love Depp i think he's one of the top 3 actor's in the world atm, but he's just not right for Nolan's movie. I wish people would get off it.
So do I my friend, so do I.
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Quote from: Sandman on Sun, 23 Nov 2008, 00:00
I agree, now i love Depp i think he's one of the top 3 actor's in the world atm, but he's just not right for Nolan's movie. I wish people would get off it.
So do I my friend, so do I.
I just don't get it everyone says it as if he's already been cast, but as far as i remember Nolan hasn't said anything about his 3rd film it could be anyone and that's if Riddler even get's picked.
Im pretty sure The Riddler is probably the main villain they would use that would fit best in the world they created, but you are correct nothing has been confirmed about a third film at all other than the fact that Nolan will only come back if theres a good story to tell to continue batman's journey, which respecively so, is a good way to think.
Well all i care about is getting a 3rd movie, i was already screwed out of Burton's 3rd i don't want it to happen again. I argee with you that Riddler would be a good fit with Nolan's world, but i would also like to see another villian that has not been used to in a Live Action Film.
Quote from: Sandman on Mon, 24 Nov 2008, 22:00
Well all i care about is getting a 3rd movie, i was already screwed out of Burton's 3rd i don't want it to happen again. I argee with you that Riddler would be a good fit with Nolan's world, but i would also like to see another villian that has not been used to in a Live Action Film.
Totally agree, other than Mad Hatter who would you like to see in a third film?
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Quote from: Sandman on Mon, 24 Nov 2008, 22:00
Well all i care about is getting a 3rd movie, i was already screwed out of Burton's 3rd i don't want it to happen again. I argee with you that Riddler would be a good fit with Nolan's world, but i would also like to see another villian that has not been used to in a Live Action Film.
Totally agree, other than Mad Hatter who would you like to see in a third film?
Hummm a couple spring to mind being Nolan's univerce it's a bit hard but not impossible.
Bane- He can be done to fit, which we proved
Penguin- I wouldn't mind seeing him again though prob not my first choice, and i like Philip Seymour Hoffman but to tell the truth my pic would be Vincent D'Onofrio. Another person i wanted to see as Penguin is Malcolm McDowell, prob wouldn't find Nolan's world though.
Freeze- Now i don't see Nolan useing him but if they twisted his character abit i think he could fit, but just don't go over board like before. And i think we all know the perfect choice to play him ;)
That's all i can think for now.
If he made a third film, it would be for no reason but the continuation of story. He is currently looking into where the story would go and if it needs to go there. He maintained that it's very hard to make a movie of this scale.
It's two hard years and you gotta love it. One of his biggest fears is getting halfway through making a film and realizing it's unnecessary and he doesn't want to make it anymore.
If there is a third story that needs to be told, there will be a third film, but nothing is set in stone or a given.
True but we have to remember it's not all up to Nolan. The Dark Knight made so much money and that's all WB cares about, they wouldn't give a flying F*ck if the third film was up to scale or not. They know that people love Batman, superhero movies and Nolan are very popular for the moment, so one way or another we will prob be seeing a third film even if Nolan drops out.
Quote from: Sandman on Thu, 11 Dec 2008, 00:30
True but we have to remember it's not all up to Nolan. The Dark Knight made so much money and that's all WB cares about, they wouldn't give a flying F*ck if the third film was up to scale or not. They know that people love Batman, superhero movies and Nolan are very popular for the moment, so one way or another we will prob be seeing a third film even if Nolan drops out.
Totally agree Sandman, but it sounds to me like you're saying we could be in danger of getting another B&R if all WB cares about is money, no? Hopefully WB won't forget what happened in the summer of '97 and realize TDK was so successful because of good film making.
Also, I don't think it matters if Nolan will make the movie or if Bale will play Batman again, just as long as whoever does knows what they're doing and are good at it.
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Quote from: Sandman on Thu, 11 Dec 2008, 00:30
True but we have to remember it's not all up to Nolan. The Dark Knight made so much money and that's all WB cares about, they wouldn't give a flying F*ck if the third film was up to scale or not. They know that people love Batman, superhero movies and Nolan are very popular for the moment, so one way or another we will prob be seeing a third film even if Nolan drops out.
Totally agree Sandman, but it sounds to me like you're saying we could be in danger of getting another B&R if all WB cares about is money, no? Hopefully WB won't forget what happened in the summer of '97 and realize TDK was so successful because of good film making.
Also, I don't think it matters if Nolan will make the movie or if Bale will play Batman again, just as long as whoever does knows what they're doing and are good at it.
You are right batass, to tell the truth i am worried that we will get another B&R. Well prob not that bad im
sure hope WB learned there lession and im sure every director know's how bad it can be for them if they do it the JS way.
To tell the truth i also don't mind if Nolan doesn't return, now don't get me wrong i love his movies and his Batman one's, but im sure he doesn't want to be known only for Batman and Bale i've never really been wrapped in.
I love all Batman movies and seeing some fresh face's and new takes wouldn't kill me, BUT...The Nolan army is massive and even though they try to call themself's Batman fan's they will do any thing to stop a non Nolan Batman film being made, i mean they attack Burton movie's and anyone that likes them and they came out alomst 20 years ago what do you think they will do to a new non Nolan Batman movie.
Quote from: Sandman on Thu, 11 Dec 2008, 03:23
You are right batass, to tell the truth i am worried that we will get another B&R. Well prob not that bad im sure hope WB learned there lession and im sure every director know's how bad it can be for them if they do it the JS way.
If TDK had made "only" $350 mill domestic, it would be an unquestioned success but I wouldn't say that Nolan would be untouchable at WB. They'd likely want to push ahead with a sequel, with or without this particular filmmaker. However, given that TDK's the #2 grosser of all-time, any idiot at WB who doesn't go along with his reference point on things will likely find himself out of a job. Right now, the Batman franchise is riding on a gravy train with biscuit wheels and you'd have to be an utter tool to want to mess that up.
QuoteI love all Batman movies and seeing some fresh face's and new takes wouldn't kill me, BUT...The Nolan army is massive and even though they try to call themself's Batman fan's they will do any thing to stop a non Nolan Batman film being made, i mean they attack Burton movie's and anyone that likes them and they came out alomst 20 years ago what do you think they will do to a new non Nolan Batman movie.
They're a scary breed, alright... but mostly possessed of limited imagination and at best fickle tastes. Guaranteed, the right Batman movie comes along and even people like Jett (with ties so close to Nolan's camp as to question the desired "objective fansite" status) would probably be onboard. Never underestimate the shifting sands of fanboy opinion.
BOF is saying Rachel Weisz is being considered for Catwoman, and expect to see Nolan and Bale back together.
Rachael Weisz was laso runored to play Talia way back when TDK rumors started. Bullsh*t on all rumors for at least until nolan agrees to do another film 100%.
Besides, there was already a leak on what Batman 3 will be.
At the beginning, we find that Batman wakes up from a fear induced nightmare caused by Scarecrow, which shows that the last 2 movies have been nothing more than hallucinations. Batman frees himself, turns to Scarecrow and says while bobbing his head "Im Batman". He then beats the crap out of Crane, ripping off his mask revealing Jeff Goldblum. Batman is then joined by Robin, Batgirl and Batmite and they all go after Mad Hatter, played by Tom Cruise, who has all of Gotham under his control.
During the end credits there is an image of Joel Schumacher flicking off the audience with an evil grin.
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Rachael Weisz was laso runored to play Talia way back when TDK rumors started. Bullsh*t on all rumors for at least until nolan agrees to do another film 100%.
Besides, there was already a leak on what Batman 3 will be.
At the beginning, we find that Batman wakes up from a fear induced nightmare caused by Scarecrow, which shows that the last 2 movies have been nothing more than hallucinations. Batman frees himself, turns to Scarecrow and says while bobbing his head "Im Batman". He then beats the crap out of Crane, ripping off his mask revealing Jeff Goldblum. Batman is then joined by Robin, Batgirl and Batmite and they all go after Mad Hatter, played by Tom Cruise, who has all of Gotham under his control.
During the end credits there is an image of Joel Schumacher flicking off the audience with an evil grin.
Man Shadowbat you really gave me a good laugh, something I get quite frequently on here, I do have to admit, I miss ya a little bit on here lately.
My comment on anything that comes from BOF or specifically Jett's mouth is pretty much hit or miss, YES he does have very very reliable sources, YES he has met Nolan and co and had interciews and such with him and YES, he has delivered us some great rumors and news that turned out to be 100% true a while before the info was officially released, but Im not going to believe any rumor at all right now until we get an official statement from Chris Nolan saying he's decided to come back.
If he does decide to, we will have the best batman trilogy we have finally waited for coming to us. ( Yes I know alot of you wish Burton finished his films with a third) but these films co-exist very well together TDK is a sequel to BB, just like the original amazing star wars trilogy. This possibly could be one of the greatest trilogies of all time!
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Rachael Weisz was laso runored to play Talia way back when TDK rumors started.color]
LOL not so long ago i heard it was Jennifer Connelly playing Talia.
^ Did you hear it from Jett? Say, I wonder if he still thinks Lachy Hulme is still THIS close to signing to play the Joker in TDK...
Who the hell is Jett?
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Fri, 12 Dec 2008, 05:25
^ Did you hear it from Jett? Say, I wonder if he still thinks Lachy Hulme is still THIS close to signing to play the Joker in TDK...
Indeed. I take rumours at this stage with a grain of salt. I'll report them, though.
Quote from: Sandman on Fri, 12 Dec 2008, 08:39
Who the hell is Jett?
Sandman where have you been for the last....hmmmm...atleast 6 years?
Batman-on-film.com..does that ring a bell??
I try and stay as far away from Nolan base's as possible.
Quote from: Sandman on Sun, 14 Dec 2008, 23:12
I try and stay as far away from Nolan base's as possible.
Its not really Nolan's base at all, the guy has connections with alot of people in the movie and comic book business.
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Alan Horn Clears Up Dark Knight Sequel Rumors
Source:Collider.com December 18, 2008
With all the rumors swirling around the internet about possible casting for Warner Bros.' sequel to the record-breaking box office blockbuster The Dark Knight--absolutely none of them true as yet--Collider had a chance to talk briefly with Alan Horn, the President of Warner Bros., and probably the one man who would know more than anyone else about anything going on with this highly-anticipated project.
He got straight to the point when asked about progress on the sequel: "We've been talking to Chris Nolan and what we have to do is get him in the right place and have him tell us what he thinks the notion might be for a great story, but Chris did a great job and we'd love to have him come back and do another one."
As far as the timing of the project, he went onto say: "The story is everything and we are very respectful of Chris. We have a wonderful relationship with him and we are going to be respectful of his timing and we want to get it right. Also, I think the fans expect that ? they want us to make a terrific movie ? we have to give them another great movie."
In the interview, Horn also expressed interest in bringing back Superman and confirmed that they're very close to rolling on a movie starring DC's other power player, Green Lantern. (In fact, earlier this week Dark Horizons reported that Australia was vying for the latter project, but nothing has been confirmed as far as a start date.)
It seems Nolan does want to do Batman 3, it's just that after TDK he's afraid he'll fail. And that's understandable. But since he wants to do it, it's likely that he'll ultimately do it. He just has to find a story he can get behind.
Agreed and Ive known that for a while, its pretty much an obvious fact, I dont care how long we wait as long as its within 3-4 years, it will be worth the wait for me personally id rather have a well scripted , well acted thought out batman film, than a thrown together tragedy like most Marvel films that fall flat.
Patience is virtue!
This article is frickin hillarious.
The Latest False Batman Rumors
Source:Superhero Hype! December 17, 2008
The UK tabloids strike again. One, who shall remain unnamed, is claiming that Eddie Murphy is playing The Riddler in the next Batman movie, that Shia LaBeouf will play Robin and that Rachel Weisz is up for the role of Catwoman. Not only that, but the tabloid says the movie will come out in 2010, and that the movie "will end on a cliffhanger over whether Batman survives a blast at Wayne Towers."
All of the above is, of course, not true. Moving on...
It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic. Oh, what the heck, I'll laugh anyway.
I'd like to see a villian who isn't exactly well-known, like Bane, or ClayFace
But if the Riddler is to be in it, what will his story be? What do you guys see being Mister Nygma's background story
I sort of like the idea of the Riddler doing the Zodiac killer thing of sending cyphers and encrypted messages to the media. I don't like the idea of him being a video game designer though. Still, I think his agenda should be confined to a specific company, or perhaps even the government (maybe he used to be a cryptologist or some such).
It's an idea.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Fri, 26 Dec 2008, 17:41
I sort of like the idea of the Riddler doing the Zodiac killer thing of sending cyphers and encrypted messages to the media. I don't like the idea of him being a video game designer though. Still, I think his agenda should be confined to a specific company, or perhaps even the government (maybe he used to be a cryptologist or some such).
It's an idea.
I totally agree with you Colors, thats pretty much in a nutshell would I would like to see The Riddler portrayed as if they decide to use him in a third film, which im pretty sure they will.
I had a thought, how about Nygma is working for Wayne, and is fired via e-mail, and then goes an a rage to find and kill Wayne, and in the process turns the city's electricty off via Computer, leading to Batman finding Nygma and telling him he has 1 hour to turn the power on, or else.
So Nygma goes and gets a group of goons and sends a message to Batman telling him to come and clash heads with "The Riddler", leading to the final confrontation.
But, heres a story I've cooked up, its still quite blotchy at parts, but I think its believeable and also sets up for another film.
It starts with a car crash, the man crashes and goes face first through the windscreen, he then prepares to place his head on teh car front when it blows, throwing him backwards.
We are then put to a chase between the Batpod and the Police through the streets of Gotham, Batman finally gets away, blows up part of a small wall, beside a tunnel, and wallrides across it, kicks himself off of the wall, and lands on the road and continues the chase till he's away and then goes to the Harbour storage, starts to get out of the costume when theres a knock at the front, he goes out, sans mask, and before he completley opens the door, its kicked back into his face by a masked samuri, who then proceeds to have a quick battle with Batman, it ends with a quick cut to the leg of Batman and a kick to the face.
When Bruce comes to, he realises that he doesn't have his mask on, races back into the storage and places his mask on.
We then see the crash victim in hospital, and we hear whisper's of the name "Matt Hagen" coming from nurses and doctors.
The middle part isn't near structured, lol, but we do find out the following;
- Bruce Wayne fires Nygma by e-mail
- Nygma sets out to kill Wayne
- Hage is visited by Roland Dagget, and is given a type of chemial/cream which helps to re-structure Hagen's face, whcih he thinks is premenant
- Batman is again attacked by the Samuri and we find out that he knows Wayne, that he was one of his trainer's at the League of Shadows :o
- Nygma then tunrs the power off the City, stating that will be on when Bruce Wayne is no more
- The Batpod is destroyed, due to wear and tear
- The Police continue to search for Batman
Now, the ending
Batman finds Nygma and then thraetens him to turn the power on again, or else. Nygma is then broadcast on TV, and states that if Batman wants him, he knows where to find him, and this is the first time he uses the name Riddler, "Come and clash heads with the Riddler"
Batman goes to teh power station and quickly takes down the goons Riddler has grouped.
Batman then tells Nygma to turn the power on again, Nygma is away to, when suddenley a sharp opject is thrown into the Riddlers back, causeing him to stop, Batman turns around and finds the Samuri, they both remove their masks and begin the battle, just as the Samuri is about to kill Wayne, he gets shot in the shoulder by Nygma who says he wants to kill Wayne himself, Wayne then battles back against Nygma and knocks him down.
He goes back to teh Samuri, when Nygma takes the gun, and starts to rapidley fire into the wires which are connected to under the walkway in whick Batman/Samuri are fighting, the whole building is now in flames, sparks are flying, and Nygma is caught by a massive explostion from where he was firing at, killing him.
Batman and the samuri then have a smaller fight, in which Batman throws the samuri into burning wires at the side which burn the samuri's back, he then stares at Wayne, telling him that he could never kill, even if it was for the good, that was the difference between the two, and then he lets himelf fall into the fire, and sparking wires.
Batman then trys to revive Nygma to no avail, he then hears the cops and flee's.
Later we see Batman outside Gordans office (outside, not in the station) and explaining that he didn't kill either, and Gordan tells Batman that he won't kill Batman aslong as he is helping the people of Gotham
We then see Hagen go to Daggets plant, and trying to get a permanent supply Dagget repeatedly shoots Hagen, and then throws him into the chemical/cream, cue the credits.
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Wat do you guys think, please forgive if tehre's spelling errors, that was a long type, lol
Thats a pretty long thought through response there sean, very interesting! ;D
Quote from: DarkVengeance on Sat, 27 Dec 2008, 17:43
Thats a pretty long thought through response there sean, very interesting! ;D
Thanks, the Samuri is based of the one from B:TAS
Two-Face should definitely be in the next one. I would also like a supporting role for Michael Keaton. He should play one of the martial artists who taught Bruce Wayne while he trained in the U.S. in a flashback or something. I believe he should also be the one who inspires Bruce to put the Batman logo on the batsuit by showing him that people are most likely to go for the chest rather than the head. Bruce will use this to decrease the risk of being shot/stabbed in the head. And I really hope that there'll be a better batsuit, one that looks similar to the BATMAN or Returns suits. :)
Returns you like to double post alot dont you? I learned just editing my post is alot easier. I personally think Keaton shouldnt be involved with any new batman films, he is a legend in his own, leave him to his own legend and world with Batman, it could almost tarnish what he had created.
When it comes to Keaton, I'd love to see a very small cameo (a cop with one line of dialogue? a guard? a thug?), the same way Marvel did with Hulk. On the other hand, it might be distracting and out of place so it's unlikely, but there's hoping.
Just because Heath Ledger is no longer around, doesn't necessarily mean the Joker for the next film needs to be compromised. I'm quite sure that if they were to cast someone else in the role they could be as good or even better than Ledger's. The Joker does not just belong to him.
Look at the casting of Ledger for TDK. At first, I was like "Oh my god, the kid from 10 Things I Hate About You and the gay cowboy from Brokeback Mountain is going to play the Joker??!!" but I saw it and thought he was great. Same with the casting of Michael Keaton for '89. People freaked out at first but he did excellent and alot, if not most, Bat-fans consider him THE Batman.
I think Two-Face should definitely return. And, if anything, Scarecrow should not be in the next film if he's just going to make a mindless cameo!
I know what you're saying, but I am against re-casting The Joker in this series. They don't really need him to return. He's locked up in jail, and that's that.
Quote from: The Batman Returns on Wed, 11 Feb 2009, 01:12
I think Two-Face should definitely return. And, if anything, Scarecrow should not be in the next film if he's just going to make a mindless cameo!
I don't think he should. He was meant to die. By bringing back Dent, that would defeat the whole purpose of Batman taking the heat for the Two-Face murders.
Quote from: batass4880 on Wed, 11 Feb 2009, 01:21
I don't think he should. He was meant to die. By bringing back Dent, that would defeat the whole purpose of Batman taking the heat for the Two-Face murders.
IMO, Dent should've been in Begins like he was supposed to, instead of Rachel Dawes. That possibly would've paved way for him to become Two-Face at a better time in TDK. I just hope Nolan & co. don't do to him like Spiderman 3 did to Venom (if you've seen it).
What's your thoughts on Scarecrow?
Quote from: The Batman Returns on Wed, 11 Feb 2009, 01:24What's your thoughts on Scarecrow?
IMO, I thought he sucked in both movies.
Quote from: batass4880 on Wed, 11 Feb 2009, 01:29
IMO, I thought he sucked in both movies.
I bursted out laughing at this! You went straight to the point! :D
Anyway, who would you want to be in the next film as the villain/villainess (or maybe more, perhaps)?
Quote from: The Batman Returns on Wed, 11 Feb 2009, 01:38Anyway, who would you want to be in the next film as the villain/villainess (or maybe more, perhaps)?
It's hard to say. My head is usually in the more "traditional" Batman world so if I were to say the Penguin, they might do something with him that I might not like. Although I heard a rumor that if they do use him, he will be a British arms dealer which sounds kind of cool to me.
I don't think the Riddler would be suitable for this franchise but that's just me.
I also think the next movie will be the last in the series. Why, I'm not sure. Just a gut feeling.
Quote from: batass4880 on Wed, 11 Feb 2009, 02:24
It's hard to say. My head is usually in the more "traditional" Batman world so if I were to say the Penguin, they might do something with him that I might not like. Although I heard a rumor that if they do use him, he will be a British arms dealer which sounds kind of cool to me.
I'm not very thrilled as to where Penguin is going. I've always preferred some DeVito Penguin within him.
Quote from: batass4880 on Wed, 11 Feb 2009, 02:24
I don't think the Riddler would be suitable for this franchise but that's just me.
If he is used, let's hope he's given the "formal look" & the "smooth man" personality instead of spandex & zaniness.
Quote from: batass4880 on Wed, 11 Feb 2009, 02:24
I also think the next movie will be the last in the series. Why, I'm not sure. Just a gut feeling.
It would make sense to tie everything up & finish. But will Bale return? I wonder what Mr. Nolan is thinking after Bale's fiasco, don't you?
Quote from: The Batman Returns on Wed, 11 Feb 2009, 02:37It would make sense to tie everything up & finish. But will Bale return? I wonder what Mr. Nolan is thinking after Bale's fiasco, don't you?
Unless he loses it again or Nolan doesn't return, I don't think the tape of him going nuts will affect him doing the third film.
Quote from: batass4880 on Wed, 11 Feb 2009, 02:49
Unless he loses it again or Nolan doesn't return, I don't think the tape of him going nuts will affect him doing the third film.
Imagine him going spastic on the set for the sequel of TDK. What a horrible vision that would be! :-X We just better hope he gets anger management.
Quote from: The Batman Returns on Wed, 11 Feb 2009, 03:04Imagine him going spastic on the set for the sequel of TDK. What a horrible vision that would be! :-X We just better hope he gets anger management.
At least for the moment, I'd say Bale is safe. He headlined the #2 highest grossing movie of all time. I think that earns him a pass on a lot of things. I don't see his career tanking any time soon, outbursts or no outbursts.
As for villains, part of me wants see what Nolan could do with the Ventriloquist.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Wed, 11 Feb 2009, 04:26
At least for the moment, I'd say Bale is safe. He headlined the #2 highest grossing movie of all time. I think that earns him a pass on a lot of things. I don't see his career tanking any time soon, outbursts or no outbursts.
For the moment. Let's see if he'll keep it up.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Wed, 11 Feb 2009, 04:26
As for villains, part of me wants see what Nolan could do with the Ventriloquist.
I'd actually like to see Talia al Ghul, considering how she was supposed to appear in Batman Begins (or was it the novel).
Bale will return. He just will. He's apologised for his behaviour and people will move on. He could explode again, and he'll still reprise his role. That doesn't make his behaviour right, it's just the way things work. I just can't see him being sacked.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Wed, 11 Feb 2009, 09:56
Bale will return. He just will. He's apologised for his behaviour and people will move on. He could explode again, and he'll still reprise his role. That doesn't make his behaviour right, it's just the way things work. I just can't see him being sacked.
Let's just hope he stays true to his word & doesn't explode on a daily basis.
I thought Deadshot could potentially be a good villain for the Nolanverse.
Quote from: Batmoney on Wed, 11 Feb 2009, 19:42
I thought Deadshot could potentially be a good villain for the Nolanverse.
Well, since the Gotham Knight Movie is said to tie in w/ the Nolanverse, Deadshot would be a good choice, along w/ Killer Croc.
Yeah, I agree that Deadshot would be a good vilain for B3, but I prefer a more common bad guy, like The Penguin or The Riddler.
What about Killer Cros? He has already been introduced to Nolanverse in GK. Do you think that he would be a good choice for B3?
Quote from: GuedesGothamKnight on Wed, 11 Feb 2009, 22:11
What about Killer Cros? He has already been introduced to Nolanverse in GK. Do you think that he would be a good choice for B3?
While it would be nice to see him, he might not be admitted due to seeming unrealistic. But if we had the sonar system, then I see no other reason not to include Croc.
If the Riddler is used, I would like to see David Tennant of Dr. Who in the role. He has expressed interest and in keeping with most of the previous villains is not too well known as an actor outside of Who fans.
I don't think He should be a Zodiac type kiler though. I think he should be a cyber hacker who sends viruses to various companies in th form of riddles, you get the riddle wrong and the whole system goes down. He would operate very much in cognito and would be a side character that the main villain would contact if they need to wipe out a rival company or a security system. He could even try to tackle the Wayne Enterprises computer system and end up in a cyber duel with Fox.
Personally though, I don't think Two-Face is dead. They didn't say Two-Face is dead they said something to the effect of hope dying with Harvey's reputation. They aren't going to be shocked that he's alive because they knew he wasn't dead. The wake was falsified and he's either locked up in Arkham or in some other state or county where nobody knows who he is. I could be wrong, but I don't thik they would waste such a great villain. Nolan is a very intellegent man and he could come up with an absolutely killer story line for Two-Face that none of us have thought of.
As for Catwoman, I would go with Kelly Hu. Penguin, in my opinion, should be Bob Hoskins.
There are my two cents. Which is how most people view my opinions... not worth much.
I agree, Two-Face has never 'seemed dead' to me, particularly judging by the scenes to follow and cap off the film after his fall, it's like they were trying to make it look like he wasn't really dead.
I had heard once that supposedly Nolan said he would never kill off a major Batman Villain, and if so, does Ras count from Begins?
Well, Gotham Knights isn't really part of the Nolanverse. I don't think Nolan had anything to do with it and if he ever wanted to contradict it I'm sure he would without hesitation.
How do we know Ras' is dead? There was no body, not even in the novelization. If this is a trilogy, what's to say Ras' won't be coming back?
Frankly, I don't see any point in bringing Ra's back, esp. how he was horribly written in Begins. It's just best to leave him where he is. I'd like to see some Batman rogues that haven't been in a film yet, like the Mad Hatter, Man Bat, etc.
If they do the Mad Hatter, which Goyer said he would never(jerk), he should be a grungy drug dealer who wers a top hat(obviously) and offers two types of pills, "the Rabbit-Hole", or "the Looking-Glass". He obviously wouldn't be the MAIN villain, but could be used similar to how they used the Scarecrow in the Dark Knight. Come to think of it, they could have used Hatter instead of Scarcrow in the Dark Knight.
If they use the Ventriloquist, I could see him actually having a ventriloquist act at some sort of nightclub and secretly giving his mob orders through code within the performance. I think that would be pretty sneaky and you could have Scarface look overly 30's gangsterish and have it work within the confines of it being "an act".
Quote from: gordonblu on Wed, 25 Mar 2009, 05:20
If they do the Mad Hatter, which Goyer said he would never(jerk), he should be a grungy drug dealer who wers a top hat(obviously) and offers two types of pills, "the Rabbit-Hole", or "the Looking-Glass".
See, this is why I don't like fictionalism removed from comic book films. It takes the fun & creativeness away. I know that the new films are trying to convey realism, but Batman's world is 50/50. And w/o that fictionalism, things are screwed.
But perhaps things might change. TDK reduced some of the OTT realism displayed in Begins, & it showed things that would seem rather unrealistic, like Two-Face running around & not catching any infections. Perhaps this is a sign to tell the viewers that a perfect balance will come to the new Batman films.
At the moment, it's the only way i see anyone doing him in any kind of movie. He's always been one of my favorites and if this is the way he has to be brought to the screen, I'm all for it. Besides any attempt to do the mind controlling version would look like a pale imitation of Batman the Animated Series. At least the drug dealer one could still quote Lewis Carroll, ust look at Jefferson Airplane, they wrote a whole song about the the White Rabbit nd the dormouse in allusion to drugs!
Some of the villains that appeared in the Azzarello/Bermejo one-shot titled "Joker" seemed like a blueprint for "gritty" movie versions of the vilains. As others said, l I could see this chain-smoking/drugged-out Riddler with a mullet played by Johnny Depp. Clliched, of course, and Nolan wouldn't like to repeat something that was done in a 2008 comic book. It'd be another Edward for Depp after Scissorhands and Ed Wood Jr. ;D
Although Johnny Depp would be perfect as the Riddler, I think he would be--all due respect to the late Heath Ledger, and the great Jack Nicholson--One fine addition to our previous list of Jokers. I've observed Johnny's acting methods and he always tries to do something fresh with his roles.
I figure if he were called up to take Heath place as the Joker, he would give us a memorable performance with an impersonation of Heath and Jack all in one . Also he looks just like Heath Ledger did with the make up on. Same eyes, nose, teeth, etc.
It might only be me, but I for one would love to see The Clock King in a Batfilm, I don't know he just seems like a guy who could match Batman mentally, throw in bane aswell and we have a great movie IMO
Quote from: Joker89 on Sun, 28 Jun 2009, 20:42
Although Johnny Depp would be perfect as the Riddler, I think he would be--all due respect to the late Heath Ledger, and the great Jack Nicholson--One fine addition to our previous list of Jokers. I've observed Johnny's acting methods and he always tries to do something fresh with his roles.
I figure if he were called up to take Heath place as the Joker, he would give us a memorable performance with an impersonation of Heath and Jack all in one . Also he looks just like Heath Ledger did with the make up on. Same eyes, nose, teeth, etc.
I totally get what you mean and agree, But sadly the death fans would put the biggest act on and no matter how great his performance is it would be totally destroyed, Lets not forget they did try to get a ban on The Joker so no one could ever play him again.
I don't want Mr Freeze. The basis of the character is tied up in his low body temperature and ice cannon. I just cannot buy that in a realistic setting.
But if he did come to pass, I suppose he could have experiments with disguising the time of death of his victims by freezing their corpses in an industrial freezer.
Just a thought I had. Even though that's not really the core character being retained, it's one way you could do it.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Thu, 3 Dec 2009, 01:32I don't want Mr Freeze. The basis of the character is tied up in his low body temperature and ice cannon. I just cannot buy that in a realistic setting.
But if he did come to pass, I suppose he could have experiments with disguising the time of death of his victims by freezing their corpses in an industrial freezer.
Just a thought I had. Even though that's not really the core character being retained, it's one way you could do it.
I've thought a few times that maybe some lesser known (to the general public) villains might be the way to go. Scarface/Ventriloquist, Maxie Zeus, Deadshot, Tally Man, Abattoir, Crimesmith, Zeiss, the General (the original Dixon/Netzer Detective Comics version; not the kinder, gentler one from the Robin comics), Phantasm (admit it, this might be kinda interesting), Firebug, cripes, the list just goes on.
I could see Chris Nolan having a lot of fun with some of those. A few seem like they'd be right up his alley. Plus, since they're not exactly top tier villains, he won't have quite the same pressure of filling a more iconic role. He could think outside the box in terms of casting.
I presume this suggeston has already been made, but I honestly think the idea of turning The Riddler into an obsessive serial killer who leaves clues, partially to taunt Batman and Gotham PD is the best way to go. You have a classic character who can be easily marketed to fans and non-fans alike, plus a relatively realistic modus operandi.
On the other hand, for a third film you're also going to need a truly city-threatening nemesis on par with Ras Ah Ghul and The Joker in the first two films.
I must admit, as much as I desperately want to see a third film in the Nolan series, I don't envy the task ahead of him in keeping the next film equally exciting but true to the world he has envisioned.
I don't think the riddler should have to shed his persona in any Batman film - someone who compulsively leaves clues for his crimes (he can't help it) - I also don't find going down the serial killer route to be satisfying enough. If fact it would bore me and make him no different than any other serial killer portrayed on screen in the last 15 years.
I reread Detective Comics #635 (or which ever one was the first part of The General arc) last night and the more I think about it, the more it makes sense to at least consider the General if nothing else.
The mob in Gotham City is basically toast after the events of TDK. I could see street gangs becoming a bigger problem than they otherwise would've been without organized crime to keep them out of the picture (which is something I sorta miss about real life organized crime).
How realistic is it that a 12 year old with a crew cut could whip them into shape? Well, I've seen microwave emitters have no effect on human bodies and I've seen Batman invent a device that any corrupt dictatorship would love to have. Seems to me the General isn't all that unrealistic a villain under those terms.
Quote from: ral on Thu, 3 Dec 2009, 13:25
I don't think the riddler should have to shed his persona in any Batman film - someone who compulsively leaves clues for his crimes (he can't help it) - I also don't find going down the serial killer route to be satisfying enough. If fact it would bore me and make him no different than any other serial killer portrayed on screen in the last 15 years.
:-\ :'(
I know my place...
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Sun, 6 Dec 2009, 06:42
Quote from: ral on Thu, 3 Dec 2009, 13:25
I don't think the riddler should have to shed his persona in any Batman film - someone who compulsively leaves clues for his crimes (he can't help it) - I also don't find going down the serial killer route to be satisfying enough. If fact it would bore me and make him no different than any other serial killer portrayed on screen in the last 15 years.
:-\ :'(
I know my place...
there there..just my opinion :)
That's ok Ral. I see where you're coming from. I wouldn't want to see any Batman character, including the Riddler deviate too far from their comic origins either, though there's a fine balance I feel between keeping the character true to the comic-book source, making them feel as vivid and colourful (both literally and figuratively) as possible, and remaining true to Nolan's 'real world' universe.
Why does everyone want Johnny Depp to play every role in every movie made?
Quote from: James on Sat, 17 Apr 2010, 23:27
Why does everyone want Johnny Depp to play every role in every movie made?
He is associated with such roles and is instantly the default choice. The safe choice.
I'm another one who doesn't want Johnny Depp within 150 miles of the next Batman movie. I'm just sick of looking at and hearing about him all the time. Not saying he isn't a great actor, I think he is, I'd just like to see ONE franchise prove they can make a good thing without Depp. Let him come around in the next Batman franchise after Nolan's done. JMO. ::)
Quote from: Matuatay on Sun, 18 Apr 2010, 04:27
I'm another one who doesn't want Johnny Depp within 150 miles of the next Batman movie. I'm just sick of looking at and hearing about him all the time. Not saying he isn't a great actor, I think he is, I'd just like to see ONE franchise prove they can make a good thing without Depp. Let him come around in the next Batman franchise after Nolan's done. JMO. ::)
Agreed.
Why should he have all the fun? Let's give someone else a chance.
Quote from: James on Sat, 17 Apr 2010, 23:27Why does everyone want Johnny Depp to play every role in every movie made?
I've wondered the same thing about Jennifer Connelly's name coming in every fu.cking comic book movie property that comes along.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Mon, 19 Apr 2010, 00:42
I've wondered the same thing about Jennifer Connelly's name coming in every fu.cking comic book movie property that comes along.
Sorry, Colors I can't agree with you there. I still don't understand what your beef is with her.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Mon, 19 Apr 2010, 00:42
I've wondered the same thing about Angelina Jolie's name coming in every fu.cking comic book movie property that comes along.
Fixed.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Mon, 19 Apr 2010, 00:42
Quote from: James on Sat, 17 Apr 2010, 23:27Why does everyone want Johnny Depp to play every role in every movie made?
I've wondered the same thing about Jennifer Connelly's name coming in every fu.cking comic book movie property that comes along.
Agreed. What the
hell is the fascination with her? Seriously?!
What sets her apart from anyone else on the damn street?
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Mon, 19 Apr 2010, 03:05
Agreed. What the hell is the fascination with her? Seriously?!
Yeesh. I feel like Bill Murray in "Groundhog Day" going over
this yet again, but if anyone can sit and watch films such as "The Rocketeer", "Career Opportunities", "Mulholland Falls", "Inventing the Abbotts" ect, and
still seriously ask this question, then
clearly it's not going to be understood. No matter what. So there's really no point in trying to grasp something that is so obviously impossible to achieve.
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What sets her apart from anyone else on the damn street?
I would say quite a bit (read above). But really, and let's be honest here, that sort of question could be posed for a great number of actresses. Ultimately, it's too subjective. As you know,
everyone has different tastes. Much like how some guys prefer Angelina Jolie over Jennifer Aniston, or Scarlett Johansson to Natalie Portman, Evangeline Lilly to Jessica Biel, Betty over Veronica. ect ect.
Meh. The closest I want her to a comic book franchise is that pitiful Incredible Sulk.
I have seen those films you list, and didn't see anything special at all. There are surely plenty of other actresses out there that can do what she does, and better.
I see people like her down the street. I don't get the big deal. And how people hold her up as some amazing beauty. She's just a plain Jane to me. And I don't have plain tastes. Some do, and that's fine.
Of all the people in the world to latch onto...
This no doubt has triggered a flame war. thecolorsblend will come in a back me up. Hopefully. Not that I need it, mind you...
Wow.
And here we go again.
See, I was bringing in a bit of
objectivity into my previous post by arguing that everyone has their own personal tastes. Some prefer blondes. Some prefer brunettes. Some prefer redheads. Some prefer this celeb over that celeb. Burton's Batman over Nolan's Batman. And so on and so forth.
An objective matter is one that everyone (who is sane, rational, and
appropriately informed) will agree about.
Now with
Subjectivity, which your unfortunate post
obviously has in spades, connotes a
lack of objectivity.
And essentially is no more or less amusing, though equally a big waste of time nevertheless, than surfing the web to read threads arguing over the "hotness" of ___________ <--- insert actress name here! ;)
QuoteThis no doubt has triggered a flame war.
Sounds like a repeat (see Billy Murray/Groundhog Day comment in a previous post) of the debate over Connelly/Beckinsale. ;D
I don't need definitions spelled out. I know what they mean.
I could not care less about finding middle ground, or what others think.
Of course people have preferances. Does that even need to be said?
I was stating my 'unfortunate' opinion.
I don't get what the big deal is with Connelly.
QuoteI don't need definitions spelled out. I know what they mean.
Awesome.
QuoteI could not care less about finding middle ground, or what others think.
Personally, I typically like agreeing with someone who holds similar interests just as much as I like agreeing to disagree on various topics. Repeating the same old tired comments, "
I don't get it! I just don't get it! What the hell? I don't see it? Plain Jane!" get's incredibly old, incredibly quick.
Making 3686346 posts whining about how Kate Beckinsale isn't my personal favourite, and how I don't get what the deal is with her, is a complete waste of time in my estimation.
QuoteOf course people have preferances. Does that even need to be said?
I was stating my 'unfortunate' opinion.
Of course. And I'll stop being objective with your posts even if I disagree with them.
QuoteI don't get what the big deal is with Connelly.
We know. We know.
Quote from: The Joker on Mon, 19 Apr 2010, 10:09
Making 3686346 posts whining about how Kate Beckinsale isn't my personal favourite, and how I don't get what the deal is with her, is a complete waste of time in my estimation.
3686347 posts is the tipping point. Get it right. We've still got a lot of posts to go before then.
I actually really want to see the next film be similar to Mask Of The Phantasm, or atleast have the Phantasm or The Reaper as the villian, could be really good
I would love to see Nolan tackle Black Mask. That could be quite thrilling.
Quote from: Grissom on Mon, 31 May 2010, 19:39
I would love to see Nolan tackle Black Mask. That could be quite thrilling.
Agreed. Black Mask would be perfect for Nolan, although I think he should also use one of the more well-known villains too (i.e. Catwoman, Penguin or The Riddler).
Nolan: No Joker for Batman 3
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/102090-christopher-nolan-on-batman-and-superman
Just as well.
It's hardy surprising. Though part of me is disappointed.
I hope that with Nolan using this more realistic approach, he is willing to tackle a villain like Bane, and give him a good story.
Though it would be somewhat controversial, can you imagine if the next Batman movie ended with Bane bending Batman's back over his knee and breaking it? That would set up one hell of a next installment in the series.
I honestly think that of all the Batman villains, Bane fits into Nolan's world as good as any.
Oh, and The Ventriloquist, with the Scarface doll, he would be a cool and in many ways a believable villain.
Quote from: Batmoney on Mon, 2 Aug 2010, 21:03
I hope that with Nolan using this more realistic approach, he is willing to tackle a villain like Bane, and give him a good story.
Though it would be somewhat controversial, can you imagine if the next Batman movie ended with Bane bending Batman's back over his knee and breaking it? That would set up one hell of a next installment in the series.
I honestly think that of all the Batman villains, Bane fits into Nolan's world as good as any.
I like Bane too and would certainly like to see him portrayed properly on-screen. However, seeing as it looks like the next Batman film is going to be Nolan's last I don't think it will end on a cliffhanger. If Bane does make an appearance, and he does break Batman's back, it's going to have to happen during the middle of the film.
Yeah, I know, but a guy can dream hehe.
I couldn't see WB and DC making such a controversial move in a franchise at any time, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were willing to make this move if the "death of Batman" in the comics was coinciding with their release date. It would help support just the kind of drama they would capture with a potential death situation in the movies.
None the less, seeing Bane in Nolan's world would be so sweet. Though I was very impressed with Nolan and Ledger's Joker, and would be intrigued to see more villains get another crack on screen, I think I would prefer to see new villains that haven't gotten a live action stint of any kind yet.
Quote from: Batmoney on Mon, 2 Aug 2010, 21:03
I honestly think that of all the Batman villains, Bane fits into Nolan's world as good as any.
You would think a big guy with muscles would be no problem. Right? Well, they couldn't have him like in the comics. In the comics the venom serum inflates him immediately. Steroids are not going to do that to you. The effects are going to take some time to kick in. If they were to do Bane, I'd have him already on the scene, already highly muscular. Probably without any exlanation. Or I'd just wait until Nolan's gone, and ditch these ridiculous restrictions.
You want real villians, I tell you who I want;
(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.imageshack.us%2Fimg150%2F7923%2Fcondimentkingiy2.jpg&hash=0ce9a24801f6903612a9e59b2eb864cf9b3e56b7)
CONDIMENT KING!!
Can you imagine a Nolan version of Condiment King? I can. ;D
I love it already! lets petition!
Burton had Kim Basinger and Michelle Pfeiffer.
Schumacher had Nicole Kidman , Elle McPherson and Uma Thurman.
Nolan had Katie Holmes/Maggue Gylenhaal. Yawn.
Nolan's DMC's (dull mechanical chores) lack sex appeal. They really need to sort that aspect out for Batman 3. If they bring in Catwoman, she has to be intimidatingly HOT and powerful.
I don't want to have some dull Katie Holmes/Maggie Gyllenhaal type where they politely emphasise how much of a good actress they are.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun, 15 Aug 2010, 10:27
Burton had Kim Basinger and Michelle Pfeiffer.
Schumacher had Nicole Kidman , Elle McPherson and Uma Thurman.
Nolan had Katie Holmes/Maggue Gylenhaal. Yawn.
Nolan's DMC's (dull mechanical chores) lack sex appeal. They really need to sort that aspect out for Batman 3. If they bring in Catwoman, she has to be intimidatingly HOT and powerful.
I don't want to have some dull Katie Holmes/Maggie Gyllenhaal type where they politely emphasise how much of a good actress they are.
Exactly. Pfeiffer and Kidman have proven themselves to be superb actresses whlilst also exuding old-fashioned sex appeal. Holmes by contrast is pretty but rather wan. To be fair though and irrespective of Nolan's 'realistic', less clearly 'comic-book' world, Rachel Dawes was never conceived as a sexy glamourpuss-type character. However, for Catwoman, Nolan definitely needs to look for someone who is more of the classic beauty and like you suggest, has a bit more of a spark to their personalities.
With no Riddler, I am really hoping for Hugo Strange. Played by Robin Williams. That would rock.
Hugo Strange is a versatile, classic and interesting Batman foe. He is also quite possibly my all-time favorite Batman villain.
He predates the Joker at Batman's first arch-nemesis, and he invented fear toxin before the Scarecrow ever came along. He exploits Batman's secret identity in ways Ra's al Ghul never dared, attacking Batman in ways that Hush and Dr. Hurt would later try to less success. He even pulled a Kingpin-style tear-down on Bruce exactly one month before Daredevil: Born Again was released, and had already beaten Kraven in the plot to kill his enemy and usurp his identity.
He's made only a handful of appearances, two of which are considered among the greatest Batman stories of all time. By all accounts, he should be Batman's greatest enemy, and yet he resides in obscurity.
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Quote from: The Dark Knight on Thu, 28 Oct 2010, 14:51
With no Riddler, I am really hoping for Hugo Strange. Played by Robin Williams. That would rock.
Tom Hardy should play Strange. Here's a photo manipulation of Hardy as Strange.
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/3308/hugolarge.jpg
That's a great manip of Hardy as Hugo Strange Bat-Mayum, but I'm not as enthusiastic about seeing him play this character as you are.
I just feel that the whole evil psychiatrist/psychologist character was already done with The Scarecrow and I can see the whole 'expose Batman's true identity' plotline working with almost any of Batman's 'Rogues Gallery' including the aforementioned Scarecrow, who is presumably still alive and has a grudge against Batman.
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Tue, 30 Nov 2010, 01:57
I just feel that the whole evil psychiatrist/psychologist character was already done with The Scarecrow and I can see the whole 'expose Batman's true identity' plotline working with almost any of Batman's 'Rogues Gallery' including the aforementioned Scarecrow, who is presumably still alive and has a grudge against Batman.
I agree. I don't like where Batman is going with all of the creative limitations on it. We're reduced to a bald headed nut (I'm not talking about ral this time). While I'm down with Robin Williams playing Strange, I would largely prefer a straight up theatrical villain like The Riddler. These films are spectacles - not boring spectacles that Hugo Strange wears.
Without the creative limitations, my favorite villain would still be a viable candidate for this film 'cuz he wouldn't be dead.
Out of just personal preference, I would have gone with the Riddler as the villain in the second sequel to the Nolan Batman franchise. Despite the unjust criticism that character gets from some circles, he was definately one that people wanted to see next. Which is why people naturally assumed that it would be the Riddler who would follow Ledger's Joker as the next big Nolan Bat-Villain.
With Hugo Strange, I'm pretty optimistic that this could very well turn out good. It's just a wait and see game right now, but it's a choice that does have potential as far as the remaining list of Batman villains go (excluding Catwoman, Penguin, and Riddler of course). Certainly more exciting than Killer Croc, or Black Mask. Though another good villain out of the early Batman villains would be Basil Karlo (Clayface).
I think Nolan is gonna end his trilogy on a high note. It might feature many villains actually, but balances of course and I would actually like to see him tackle a lesser villain and make it worthwile. Looking forward to what Nolan would do with this and still regretting that Burton never got to finish his trilogy.
Aaron Eckhart was recently interviewed by MTV and he confirmed that he was NOT going to be in the next film. >:(
I know Harvey's arc was the supposed point of TDK ( although it was overshadowed by Ledger), but if that was all Nolan could think of doing with the character, this director has seriously been knocked down a peg in my book.
Let's see... I'll have him burned, then he'll shoot a couple guys and get knocked off a building and die.... GENIUS. ::)
Quote from: gordonblu on Sat, 4 Dec 2010, 00:12
Let's see... I'll have him burned, then he'll shoot a couple guys and get knocked off a building and die.... GENIUS. ::)
While I think his arc is more considered than you, I have to agree with this initial impression. I was hoping Nolan would do something visibly different to the Forever version in terms of his fate. On face value, he's not much different to Tommy Lee Jones' version, except more serious. Both last one film, die from a fall, have a shot of his coin falling, etc.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 4 Dec 2010, 00:58
While I think his arc is more considered than you, I have to agree with this initial impression. I was hoping Nolan would do something visibly different to the Forever version in terms of his fate. On face value, he's not much different to Tommy Lee Jones' version, except more serious. Both last one film, die from a fall, have a shot of his coin falling, etc.
Actually, he's very much different to Batman Forever's version, and not just in terms of characterisation. Although Forever was officially a sequel to Burton's films, and Two-Face was therefore an extension of Billy Dee Williams' Harvey Dent, we never really get to see Tommy Lee Jones pre-Two Face. In Batman Forever, the audience only knows the character by his reputation as an infamous arch-villain.
By contrast, in TDK Harvey Dent never really attains the status of super-villain since as far as all but a handful of people know, Dent died a hero. Indeed, very few people got to see Dent in his deformed state, and most of them ended up dead by the film's climax. That's why it's such a pity, as Gordonblu has identified, that Aarom Eckhart won't be returning as Two-Face, since it would have been facinating to see the authorities try and fail to suppress the truth about what happened to the man. It would also allow the audience to relish him becoming a true super-villain in the same way that The Joker and to lesser extent, Ras Al Ghul and The Scarecrow became in the first film.
I was talking more about their respective fates. You can throw down the hostage situation similarity as well.
Yes, TDK?s Two-Face never becomes a true villain, and we see his downfall, and in BF we don?t. But I think to the casual onlooker, on face value, they?re not really much different. To simplify things: One is goofy, one is serious. And they?re both dead at the end.
I just think their demises ultimately make them one and the same. That?s the lasting impression audiences leave with. While TDK?s version works, it?s a shame Nolan went and basically copied the BF finale, and added in more exposition. He had the chance to do something radically different. Like, as you and others have pointed out, had Dent roaming the streets, deranged in Batman 3. With the police cover-up going at the same time.
I quite agree. Ending Two-Face in TDK is a HUGE missed opportunity and we really never get to see Two-Face to begin with. We see a pissed off Dent with half his face missing...and we got about 10 minutes of that, tops. Nolan should have stuck with his original idea and set Two-Face up to be the main villain in the third film instead of knocking him off this early. Big mistake, imo.
As far as Strange is concerned, has it even been confirmed that he's even going to be the villain of TDKR? Last I looked it seemed to be one of those internet rumors that has just snowballed until now everyone is taking it as gospel.
I'm still hoping against hope that Nolan will change his mind and bring in The Penguin, even as just a bit player in the story.
It's a shame to hear that Eckart told MTV he's definitely not going to be in TDKR because I am one of those who was really holding out hope that somehow Dent/Two-Face survived that fall and would cause some major havoc in the final film. Oh well.
I think Nolan originally had Joker in mind for the third again, what with Ledger being signed on for 2 films
From Moviehole..
?It?s just not real?, says a contact at Warner Bros in relation to a news item suggesting that, thanks to CGI and some unused footage from the previous flick, Ledger will reprise his ?Joker? role for ?Dark Knight Rises? Firstly, yes, the original plan was to have The Joker play a small part in the third ?Batman? movie. He would?ve been in a prison, and much like Clarice Starling and Hannibal Lecter, would?ve played an unlikely aide to his arch-nemesis Batman, who?d be on a mission to to stop? Two Face.
:( :( :(
Quote from: Matuatay on Sat, 4 Dec 2010, 04:38
As far as Strange is concerned, has it even been confirmed that he's even going to be the villain of TDKR? Last I looked it seemed to be one of those internet rumors that has just snowballed until now everyone is taking it as gospel.
Pure speculation. Though another rumor is that TDKR may be based on a storyline called, "Prey" that ran in the
Legends of the Dark Knight title. A storyline could could mesh very well with how TDK concluded, was the un-official sequel to Miller's "Year One", and incorporates the modern Hugo Strange as a psychological and manipulative villain who, in contrast to Batman's more flamboyant villains, prefers to pull strings from behind the scenes and has quite the obsession with Batman.
QuoteI'm still hoping against hope that Nolan will change his mind and bring in The Penguin, even as just a bit player in the story.
Agreed.
Thanks, Joker.
I have to admit that Hugo Strange is not one of those I'd rather see in a live action flick, but then again I said the same thing about Ra's Al Ghul and The Scarecrow and ended up having no complaints with either after seeing Batman Begins. Whatever the case ends up being, Nolan has certainly earned my trust that he'll deliver a fine product.
Quote from: gordonblu on Sat, 4 Dec 2010, 19:25
He would?ve been in a prison, and much like Clarice Starling and Hannibal Lecter, would?ve played an unlikely aide to his arch-nemesis Batman, who?d be on a mission to to stop? Two Face.
I always thought that was going to happen. It would?ve worked so well, because Ledger
shined in TDK interrogation scene. They could?ve revisited that style, showing their mutual connection growing even deeper and reference their past meeting. ?Let?s not get worked up this time, eh bats?? Shame.
And the image of a make-up less Joker with traces of green hair dye would've been very interesting. Would have it removed the aura of the character? Maybe. But it would have shown a different facet to him.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun, 5 Dec 2010, 01:42
I always thought that was going to happen. It would?ve worked so well, because Ledger shined in TDK interrogation scene. They could?ve revisited that style, showing their mutual connection growing even deeper and reference their past meeting. ?Let?s not get worked up this time, eh bats?? Shame.
And the image of a make-up less Joker with traces of green hair dye would've been very interesting. Would have it removed the aura of the character? Maybe. But it would have shown a different facet to him.
Now that this synopsis is rendered void, I can't see a satisfying way to end this trilogy at this point.
>>Now that this synopsis is rendered void, I can't see a satisfying way to end this trilogy at this point. <<
And without Two-Face, neither can I. But we're probably being a bit closed-minded just because we're not getting to see what we wanted (or thought) we were going to see. There's got to be a good way to close it all off in a fitting conclusion, we just can't see it right now which is why these writers and filmmarkers make millions doing what they do.
(not saying you couldn't do any of the above, but I sure can't!)
Then again, it might not be Nolan's intention to wrap it all up neatly and tie up all loose ends. I suppose just because this is his final bat-film doesn't necessarily mean he's not going to leave us hanging in some way or another. I wouldn't like it if he did, but it's always a possibility.
It's going to be a very long wait until 2012. :-\
Well according to Batman-News, it's looking like we'll end up with Deadshot, Black Mask, and/or Hugo Strange as the main antagonists. Nothing official, but there is a lot of whispering going on out there that mainly includes these three. I'd bet on seeing at least one out of these three appear, if not two. No word yet on the female villain except it's looking more and more like Talia Al Ghul will make an appearance.
I'd post a link to the articles, but I'm not sure if it's allowed and all it takes is a Google search for Batman News to easily find the site. Ordinarily I disregard rumors like this until something official comes out, but the person running Batman-News seems to have his act together and is the first to admit that this is all rumor, but also notes that the Deadshot/Black Mask article that was put online was quickly removed at the request of WB.
Personally I find the concept of Deadshot rather lame when it comes to being a foe for Batman, who is almost impervious to guns. Black Mask, however, intrigues me somewhat. It would make sense for this guy to have taken over what's left of the mob after Maroni. I'm still on the fence on how I feel about Hugo Strange possibly making an appearance.
Quote from: Matuatay on Fri, 14 Jan 2011, 05:07
Well according to Batman-News, it's looking like we'll end up with Deadshot, Black Mask, and/or Hugo Strange as the main antagonists. Nothing official, but there is a lot of whispering going on out there that mainly includes these three.
I wouldn't be reading too much into that. Especially from that site.
I can't see Black Mask in it to be honest...he's almost a little bit the same as how the Joker was Nolan-ised to a certain extent and it would be like re-treading old ground.
I'd actually like to see Hugo Strange.
Well, I was a fool for posting what I knew to pretty much be rumor, and news that came out today proves it.
Anne Hathaway: Selena Kyle, Tom Hardy: Bane
BURBANK, CA, January 19, 2011 ? Warner Bros. Pictures announced today that Anne Hathaway has been cast as Selina Kyle in Christopher Nolan?s ?The Dark Knight Rises.? She will be starring alongside Christian Bale, who returns in the title role of Bruce Wayne/Batman.
Christopher Nolan stated, ?I am thrilled to have the opportunity to work with Anne Hathaway, who will be a fantastic addition to our ensemble as we complete our story.?
In addition, Tom Hardy has been set to play Bane. Nolan said, ?I am delighted to be working with Tom again and excited to watch him bring to life our new interpretation of one of Batman?s most formidable enemies.?
Nolan will direct the film from a screenplay he wrote with Jonathan Nolan, from a story by Christopher Nolan and David S. Goyer. Nolan will also produce the film with his longtime producing partner, Emma Thomas, and Charles Roven.
?The Dark Knight Rises? is slated for release on July 20, 2012. The film will be distributed worldwide by Warner Bros. Pictures, a Warner Bros. Entertainment Company.
Read more: http://batman-news.com/#ixzz1BVqppp6c
Quote from: Matuatay on Wed, 19 Jan 2011, 19:54
Well, I was a fool for posting what I knew to pretty much be rumor, and news that came out today proves it.
Anne Hathaway: Selena Kyle, Tom Hardy: Bane
BURBANK, CA, January 19, 2011 ? Warner Bros. Pictures announced today that Anne Hathaway has been cast as Selina Kyle in Christopher Nolan?s ?The Dark Knight Rises.? She will be starring alongside Christian Bale, who returns in the title role of Bruce Wayne/Batman.
Christopher Nolan stated, ?I am thrilled to have the opportunity to work with Anne Hathaway, who will be a fantastic addition to our ensemble as we complete our story.?
In addition, Tom Hardy has been set to play Bane. Nolan said, ?I am delighted to be working with Tom again and excited to watch him bring to life our new interpretation of one of Batman?s most formidable enemies.?
Nolan will direct the film from a screenplay he wrote with Jonathan Nolan, from a story by Christopher Nolan and David S. Goyer. Nolan will also produce the film with his longtime producing partner, Emma Thomas, and Charles Roven.
?The Dark Knight Rises? is slated for release on July 20, 2012. The film will be distributed worldwide by Warner Bros. Pictures, a Warner Bros. Entertainment Company.
Read more: http://batman-news.com/#ixzz1BVqppp6c
Are you serious Bane.
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Please continue them there