Finally, I (as well os others in the UK and Ireland) get to see The Dark Knight.
So far I have avoided plot spoilers and reviews so my reaction to the film should be unbiased.
I will be wearing my Citizens for Batman badge and my enamel 89 badge on my Batman t-shirt like a true geek!
You will love it. Any true Batman fan will.
So, the film opened in South-European non-English speaking countries before going to Albion herself? :)
I envy you. You get to have only one chance at the first viewing of a film, and the first time you watch it is... ;D
Raleagh,
4 and a half hours to go buddy!!!! I'll be there myself and I cant wait! ;D
Quote from: Joker81 on Thu, 24 Jul 2008, 14:45
Raleagh,
4 and a half hours to go buddy!!!! I'll be there myself and I cant wait! ;D
really excited now!
btw, I will be there with my fiance and my little sister. If you see me, say hello. I have a shaved head and weird goatee thing - i will be wearing my CFB badge. 8)
Hi,
well I am just back, and sorry I only got your last post there now.
What did you think?
At the moment I am not too impressed, but I will sleep on it and see how I feel in the morning-let it sink in.
What screen were you in Joker81?
VIP 03
U?
VIP 02.
I have had much the same reaction as you Joker81.
I have issues with it.
How do you mean guy's? I thought i was the only one that didn't find it as great as the hype :o.
You have issues with it? Such as?
Spill the beans, then we can thrash it out here. ;)
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Fri, 25 Jul 2008, 01:23
You have issues with it? Such as?
Spill the beans, then we can thrash it out here. ;)
I would prefer to watch it again before making any definitive judgements - but going on first impressions, I was less than overwelmed by it.
Well, okay, fair enough. When you are ready to talk turkey, I will be here waiting.
Underwhelmed with TDK? Never say this loudly ;D
Quote from: silenig on Fri, 25 Jul 2008, 10:28
Underwhelmed with TDK? Never say this loudly ;D
yeah, i wouldn't want to be a "hater" ;)
I did like it. Quite a faithful adaption to TLH, TKJ, etc. It's just....................
no i won't say anything until i see it again.
Quote from: silenig on Fri, 25 Jul 2008, 10:28
Underwhelmed with TDK? Never say this loudly ;D
Yeah. Especially not around me. ;D
I've seen the film three times so far, I respect this decision. You will be better placed to discuss it.
Raleagh,
I am the same as you, thats why I wanted to sleep on it first. I always can judge a film better in time, and if it sticks in my mind and how it effects me.
I will elaborate my thoughts soon.
But if its any consolation, 50% of my company thought it was really good and 50% just OK.
Quote from: raleagh on Fri, 25 Jul 2008, 10:41
Quote from: silenig on Fri, 25 Jul 2008, 10:28
Underwhelmed with TDK? Never say this loudly ;D
yeah, i wouldn't want to be a "hater" ;)
I did like it. Quite a faithful adaption to TLH, TKJ, etc. It's just....................no i won't say anything until i see it again.
Same here. I've never been this mixed about a Batman film.
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I am the same as you, thats why I wanted to sleep on it first. I always can judge a film better in time, and if it sticks in my mind and how it effects me.
Yeah i'm the same as you i went in ready to see the greatest Batman movie of all time and left dissapointed. But after a while the more i thought about it the more i started to like it. I think after you see it a second time you will enjoy it more.
But i still think that Batman89 and Begins were both better then TDK as great as it was there were still thing that i didn't like in it. Take for example i loved The Joker but everyone was saying it was going to be The Joker from the comics and it wasn't, now don't get me wrong im HL's biggest fan and loved what he did but i guess it just wasn't what i thought i was going to see. Two-face stole to show for me though :).
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yeah, i wouldn't want to be a "hater" ;)
Just because you didn't like the movie as much as some people doesn't make you a hater. Only when you wanna be a dick to the fans about it lol but i don't see you doing that.
Yeah Sandman there was something about Heaths Joker that was missing. It def wasnt the Joker from the comics. He did take it in a different direction which was good. But maybe in a TOO different direction. I also agree Two-Face was good.
I did enjoy it, but I think its the 3rd best Batman film.
I've seen TDK twice. Probably will see it again on Saturday. Hey, a lot of people want to see it with me, what do you want to hear?? Anyway. It holds up on repeat viewings, I think. The action retains a lot of the original tension, the characters seem a bit more nuanced the second time 'round and so forth.
It's not even close to the Batman film I'd make if I were to direct one... but since that'll never happen, I can enjoy TDK. It doesn't quite match up to the classic Burton standard but it's still good.
I agree about not living up to the Burton standard.
I will watch it again, and probably get it on DVD when it comes out lol
But its not the masterpiece it is being hailed.
Movies of 2008 will be remembered for the biggest cash in movie in history - Sex and the City.
And the most over hyped film ever - The Dark Knight.
Some bat fans you are. I am not a Burtonite or Nolanite, I am a Batmanite. I loved The Dark Knight, and find it to hold up extremely well with repeat viewing. If anything, it gets better. It is the best Batman film yet, and I don't know how it is going to be topped.
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Some bat fans you are. I am not a Burtonite or Nolanite.
I think i said somthing like that on another forum lol. Good for you i like to think im kinda the same way but i perfer Burton's movies to all other's but im not a burtonite if anything i perfer to be called a Keatonite ;D.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 26 Jul 2008, 02:51Some bat fans you are. I am not a Burtonite or Nolanite, I am a Batmanite. I loved The Dark Knight, and find it to hold up extremely well with repeat viewing. If anything, it gets better. It is the best Batman film yet, and I don't know how it is going to be topped.
We all have our preferences. I dig TDK, it's good, but Burton just scratches the itch for me better.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sat, 26 Jul 2008, 07:50
We all have our preferences. I dig TDK, it's good, but Burton just scratches the itch for me better.
That's fine. I love the Burton films too.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 26 Jul 2008, 02:51
Some bat fans you are. I am not a Burtonite or Nolanite, I am a Batmanite. I loved The Dark Knight, and find it to hold up extremely well with repeat viewing. If anything, it gets better. It is the best Batman film yet, and I don't know how it is going to be topped.
Exactly so am I, so i'm not blinded by the hype of this film. I think it is entertaining, but not as good as some critics and Batman/Nolan fans say it is.
Theres more holes in the plot than a culunder!
If one thing we should all be proud as Batman fans that we have had 3 amazing actors play the Joker on film if anything. But thats it. Though even Heath isnt enough to save this film.
Quote from: Joker81 on Sat, 26 Jul 2008, 10:58
Theres more holes in the plot than a culunder!
Such as?
Quote from: Joker81 on Sat, 26 Jul 2008, 10:58
If one thing we should all be proud as Batman fans that we have had 3 amazing actors play the Joker on film if anything.
Ledger is the best of the three by a mile, in my opinion.
As much as I loved the TDK and I consider Nolan's take a more refined and serious take on the character (while I absolutely love Burton's for different reasons), I think the criticisms have validity. I can't put myself to watch Batman Begins again, although I respect it, while Burton's films are always enjoyable and fun to look at. They aged like wine.
Batman Begins in my mind proved to be a refreshing cup of ice cream. Well-crafted and scripted with the right tone, it commands respect when seen in context (a very successful reboot of the films, a serious take on Batman, it won a portion of the general audience over Marvel films for being more realistic and serious) but, like ice cream, it can be enjoyed only when it has just come out of the freezer. Nowadays it feels more like a "let's get it over with" origin story and a set-up for TDK. It feels a bit rusty, like the colours of it's promotional posters. Simply boring.
So, we don't know how TDK is going to feel not in 2-4 nights, but in 4 years. Maybe it will come a point when even the most vocal Nolan guys will wish for a more fantastic and gothic Batman (with some grips on reality, like the 1989 film) instead of films with a very realistic look, like a crime drama in a cape.
Quote from: silenig on Sat, 26 Jul 2008, 12:34
Maybe it will come a point when even the most vocal Nolan guys will wish for a more fantastic and gothic Batman (with some grips on reality, like the 1989 film) instead of films with a very realistic look, like a crime drama in a cape.
We have something very special here with The Dark Knight. On the contrary, maybe there will come a time when the very vocal Burton supporter will come to appreciate the 'crime drama in a cape'.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 26 Jul 2008, 12:45
We have something very special here with The Dark Knight. On the contrary, maybe there will come a time when the very vocal Burton supporter will come to appreciate the 'crime drama in a cape'.
I think that time has come. Burton supporters have embraced TDK.
Quote from: raleagh on Sat, 26 Jul 2008, 13:09
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 26 Jul 2008, 12:45
We have something very special here with The Dark Knight. On the contrary, maybe there will come a time when the very vocal Burton supporter will come to appreciate the 'crime drama in a cape'.
I think that time has come. Burton supporters have embraced TDK.
Like me ;D
Quote from: BurtonBatman on Sat, 26 Jul 2008, 14:04
Quote from: raleagh on Sat, 26 Jul 2008, 13:09
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 26 Jul 2008, 12:45
We have something very special here with The Dark Knight. On the contrary, maybe there will come a time when the very vocal Burton supporter will come to appreciate the 'crime drama in a cape'.
I think that time has come. Burton supporters have embraced TDK.
Like me ;D
Outstanding. Glad to hear it. The future is brighter and now is the hour for the Bat fans.
I loved TDK and like the "crime drama in a cape" route :) I simply think the Burton-bashing and the looking down upon the gothic Batman isn't here to stay. It's become a bat-wagon everyone wants to jump in. We'll make our judgements after a few years, if we (God willing) are all well ;D
Quote from: silenig on Sat, 26 Jul 2008, 14:20
I loved TDK and like the "crime drama in a cape" route :) I simply think the Burton-bashing and the looking down upon the gothic Batman isn't here to stay. It's become a bat-wagon everyone wants to jump in. We'll make our judgements after a few years, if we (God willing) are all well ;D
Yeah. Fandom is where people come together to argue about what they like. Discussion about the two interpretations is healthy.
I?ll make no secret that I favour the Nolan films, but my first love was the brilliant Burton films. I like them both. We can both co-exist and discuss them both here.
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I'll make no secret that I favour the Nolan films, but my first love was the brilliant Burton films. I like them both. We can both co-exist and discuss them both here.
Same but i'm in favour of Burton over Nolan but that doesn't mean i don't love the Nolan movies or that i have to hate them.