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Would you like another burton/keaton batman?

Hell YES. Let's all send letters to WB!

it be interesting to see what he can do

Only with Keaton, give us TDKR, and have it continue from the original 2

I think you would have to send letters to burton and keaton not warner bros

I'd rather him redo the first film into his own intent, rather continuing. I'm wondering what he'd do with Joker, given the darkness involved in Penguin and his love for killing joke (which got shoved to being more in BMR than BM). I'd also want to see Jack do a very dark, near Shining esque role, but he's too old now!

Quote from: TheBatMan0887 on Tue,  1 Feb  2011, 06:35
I'd rather him redo the first film into his own intent, rather continuing.

Nah. That's the last thing I'd want. You can't top perfection. Such talk is alright for fan speculation, but nothing more. And frankly, there's a bit too much emphasis on such things sometimes. If Burton came back, onwards and upwards. The past is just that. The past. Burton likes creating new worlds from the ground up, and doesn't like going over old ground. A brand new adventure would excite me a whole lot more.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue,  1 Feb  2011, 07:23

Quote from: TheBatMan0887 on Tue,  1 Feb  2011, 06:35
I'd rather him redo the first film into his own intent, rather continuing.

Nah. That's the last thing I'd want. You can't top perfection. Such talk is alright for fan speculation, but nothing more. And frankly, there's a bit too much emphasis on such things sometimes. If Burton came back, onwards and upwards. The past is just that. The past. Burton likes creating new worlds from the ground up, and doesn't like going over old ground. A brand new adventure would excite me a whole lot more.

Well, I don't mean to redo the film or franchise as a whole. If it were free to Burton, it would be a brand new film on its own. Its just incomplete that he had to use sources he wanted to out of order. So no, this most definitely wont be old ground or to call anything to the 89 film's glory, just it would be his golden opportunity to finally be alone to make his incarnation of a BatMan vs Joker plot in general.

If Burton continued, he'd only get back lashed or parodied by the larger Nolanites and school boy idiots of today who destroyed Burton's imagination as to being of no different per movie (versus I don't know, say a casual theme or core character many movie makers take on for their films). And that all they can say is that Burton is the reason for mostly all the direction of the 89 film, most naysayers who can't enjoy or call legitimacy props to both films would ruin the third proposed film anyhow. Even Penguin was effected in a way, not by externals, such as the voice tone or talent playing him, but in that he was made more psychotic than he should have been. In essence, Penguin's original character coming within the sources is intertwined with TKJ in such a way that the character of the insanity is simply a different class to that of Joker's.

Tim Burton should start over to show what a real Tim Burton BatMan or Joker should be, un-effected by another direction or authority over a studio. Remember Burton's statement of going into the weird with a lighthearted approach, well with Sleepy Hollow and more, this stereotype is not the case. That Joker would be no less gruesome than some of Burton's more vicious films, maybe even top the Heath Joker in his actions and doings.

After this do I say he should tackle the other villains, such as Scarecrow.

Quote from: TheBatMan0887 on Thu,  3 Feb  2011, 02:07
Tim Burton should start over to show what a real Tim Burton BatMan or Joker should be

I believe he has already shown what a real Joker should be like. His Joker struck a perfect balance. The point is that Nicholson's prissy comic Joker (white skin, clown toys, etc) contrasts with Ledger's punk creation. I don't see the point in trying to out-gruesome Ledger's Joker. Don't acknowledge it. Stick to the real intent of the comic, cos' Burton nailed it first time - with or without limitations. Yin and Yang, man!

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Thu,  3 Feb  2011, 03:52
I believe he has already shown what a real Joker should be like. His Joker struck a perfect balance. The point is that Nicholson's prissy comic Joker (white skin, clown toys, etc) contrasts with Ledger's punk creation. I don't see the point in trying to out-gruesome Ledger's Joker. Don't acknowledge it. Stick to the real intent of the comic, cos' Burton nailed it first time - with or without limitations. Yin and Yang, man!

Eloquently stated and wholeheartedly agree.

well not exactly even in the early comics the joker had no problem getting into a fist fight with batma hell even even won a few.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Thu,  3 Feb  2011, 03:52

Quote from: TheBatMan0887 on Thu,  3 Feb  2011, 02:07
Tim Burton should start over to show what a real Tim Burton BatMan or Joker should be

I believe he has already shown what a real Joker should be like. His Joker struck a perfect balance. The point is that Nicholson's prissy comic Joker (white skin, clown toys, etc) contrasts with Ledger's punk creation. I don't see the point in trying to out-gruesome Ledger's Joker. Don't acknowledge it. Stick to the real intent of the comic, cos' Burton nailed it first time - with or without limitations. Yin and Yang, man!

I already know the contrast between both Jokers. I'm not really talking about actually trying to out-gruesome Heath either, but that it could do better than him in what people perceived in darkness or being creepy in 08 in the end run. Who knows. Its something I'd like to see, is all. Most called Jack's Joker camp by now and no less, and yet, this truer Burton take could be even more so messed up than anyone of them put together, while still using some "toys". Still, the joker you see here in 89 was based heavily more on Steve's line of comics, which the producer's cobbled together with other sources for the film's take. TKJ was released in the same year the shooting draft was made and not much was there Burton could do on adding references or key character traits, lightly different here, in that time with the limits to his directing.

I'm not even certain as to what you mean by "he" nailed it in the head the first time, as Burton was so far away he was nearly a blip, regardless to what his fans think of his role on the film. Most of this film is without much of his imagination. You know it when Burton doesn't even like the tone of it itself. It would end up about the same way it did without him to one point, though maybe not to the letter of what we have today. So really, there isn't even a first time to one extent.

Remember, I say this having noted him having to input his favorite TKJ material into another character. My mind frame was bent on seeing what he would do with the ability to input its inspiration or references in correctly, where they belong, with Joker.


EDIT: Just to note, while this is what I'd rather him do, I still would like to see simply a third film too. I wouldn't mind it, even with the above said. I'm not separating the film that far from any of Burton's more involved sequels. Almost rather seamless to me. I always wanted a real third film too. Maybe about ScareCrow or other. I think Tim would go hand in hand with the art and characteristics of the character.

I WOULD HAVE LOVED BURTONS NEXT BATMAN!!!
this was my fan poster based on what i read about it.
Keaton and Burton were the perfect vessels for the story and honestly i like the "killing Batman".

*can you guys help me out by the way? i make stuff like this all the time and i dont know how to get it into the sites fan art...

In the past members could upload their own pictures to the site. Since work on the upgrade began that was suspended.

It will be running again in a couple of weeks.

Quote from: Paul (ral) on Sat, 19 Mar  2011, 01:41
It will be running again in a couple of weeks.

Oh, good. One of my favourite past times.