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Title: Poison Ivy DELETED SCENE
Post by: arnaud187 on Fri, 2 Aug 2013, 17:14
Here's an excerpt from the script:

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170   EXT. GOTHAM AIRPORT - TARMAC _ NIGHT

A vintage DC-3 steams on the runway. Pilots descend the
gangway.

Pamela Isley, dressed as a grieving window, supervises the
LUGGAGE HANDLERS' debarkation of a coffin. An immense
coffin.

PAMELA
Be gentle. He's always been touchy.

HANDLER
Whatever you say, lady.

Pam watches the Handlers carry the coffin away. She turns,
walks off across the tarmac.

171   FAVOR THE BAGGAGE HANDLERS as they bear the coffin to the
terminal.

HANDLER
(imitating Pam)
He's always been touchy. Right.

172   A GIANT FIST CRASHES through the splintering lid. The
Handlers drop the coffin as a figure emerges. Bane,
wearing his full costume, his injector pack strapped to
his back.

Bane lifts a Handler, begins swinging him like a baseball
bat, sending the other Handlers flying.

173   EXT. AIRPORT - TARMAC

A LIMOUSINE sits at the edge of the runway. A lone
BUSINESSMAN approaches the waiting car. The DRIVER smiles,
opens the door. he Businessman climbs in to find...

174   INT. LIMO - NIGHT

Pam sits sprawled on the back seat, showing no small bit
of leg.

BUSINESSMAN
There must be some mistake --

PAMELA
Silly darling, there's no need to
pretend in front of the driver.

She grabs his face kisses him passionately. She lets go,
the Businessman slumps to the seat. Dead.

PAMELA
Love hurts. In my case it kills.

175   THE REARVIEW MIRROR

176   The limo driver watches on. Suddenly a hand reaches in
SNAPPING his neck, drags out his body. Bane climbs into
the driver's seat.

PAMELA
Once around the park.


I know there are scenes from the script that do not appear in the film, some of them probably were never even filmed at all, but I am pretty sure it's not the case with the above-mentioned scene. Why? If anyone has ever played the awful PSX B&R game back in those days, they might remember in the beginning during the title sequence with the red background you could hear lines by Freeze and Ivy from the movie. If you take a look at this clip, right at the beginning you can hear one of Uma's lines from that scene and that is ''LOVE HURTS. IN MY CASE IT KILLS''

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sd2nDpkOO0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sd2nDpkOO0)

I was wondering if anyone's aware of this scene?
Title: Re: Poison Ivy DELETED SCENE
Post by: johnnygobbs on Fri, 2 Aug 2013, 18:48
I'm afraid I can't help you with your query arnaud but I do wonder how much footage, particularly of Poison Ivy, ended up on the cutting-room floor.  I've read on more than one occasion that there was meant to be a scene where Poison Ivy stabs Julie Madison.  That seems way off kilter with the rest of the (overly) light-hearted movie and if it was shot it only makes sense that it was ultimately rejected but I do wonder what happened to Julie in the film and this fabled deleted scene would have explained her disappearance.  Seems most of Batman's women come to a sorry end in these films...or like Catwoman says just deeply resentful.
Title: Re: Poison Ivy DELETED SCENE
Post by: Silver Nemesis on Fri, 2 Aug 2013, 23:52
Welcome to the site, arnaud187!

This is the first I've heard about this scene. But good job spotting the sound bite in the game. Perhaps they did film it. They clearly did shoot some footage at an airport, as evidenced by that photograph of Bane and Ivy walking away from the plane. It'd be a waste not to film the whole sequence if they already had the actors on location and in costume. Though it is hard to imagine a neck-snapping scene in a Schumacher Batman film. Maybe that's why it was cut.

Quote from: arnaud187 on Fri,  2 Aug  2013, 17:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sd2nDpkOO0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sd2nDpkOO0)

How did this game escape inclusion in the Angry Video Game Nerd review?
Title: Re: Poison Ivy DELETED SCENE
Post by: Catwoman on Sat, 3 Aug 2013, 08:12
i've never heard of what you are talking about but i f***ing love that quote. i wish it had been in the movie so maybe i could have got a t-shirt with it on it lol
Title: Re: Poison Ivy DELETED SCENE
Post by: Azrael on Thu, 8 Aug 2013, 01:55
Love Rolfe, but he often exaggerates for the sake of rofls.

If one steps up to say that this game is a halfway decent effort that ended up half-cooked/ bad because the devs tried to cram too many elements (and these are words by authoritative magazines from 1998), they'll be silently mocked, so better leave it at that. I know how staunch defenders of Castlevania for N64 (that one where the player carries the nitro) look to me. One thing to note, here is one of the very few places where someone might discuss the merits (if any) of this movie and generate thoughtful discussion instead of memetic jokes about the card or Arnie's puns.
Title: Re: Poison Ivy DELETED SCENE
Post by: Catwoman on Thu, 8 Aug 2013, 06:24
i liked the credit card. for obvious reasons lol
Title: Re: Poison Ivy DELETED SCENE
Post by: Catwoman on Thu, 8 Aug 2013, 06:29
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Fri,  2 Aug  2013, 18:48
I'm afraid I can't help you with your query arnaud but I do wonder how much footage, particularly of Poison Ivy, ended up on the cutting-room floor.  I've read on more than one occasion that there was meant to be a scene where Poison Ivy stabs Julie Madison.  That seems way off kilter with the rest of the (overly) light-hearted movie and if it was shot it only makes sense that it was ultimately rejected but I do wonder what happened to Julie in the film and this fabled deleted scene would have explained her disappearance.  Seems most of Batman's women come to a sorry end in these films...or like Catwoman says just deeply resentful.

i have heard of that scene too and i've read everything from it being actually filmed and cut to it being cut before filming to it being just a rumor someone made up. in the book of the movie, ivy makes it look like bruce is going after her instead of julie and so julie leaves him in anger. bruce starts at ivy and she says something like "get away before i scream sexual harassment." its funny how she just randomly disappeared with no explanation at all which leads me to believe her swan song was filmed but they decided it was too dark (no sh*t lol) and left it out.
Title: Re: Poison Ivy DELETED SCENE
Post by: johnnygobbs on Thu, 8 Aug 2013, 14:25
Quote from: Catwoman on Thu,  8 Aug  2013, 06:29
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Fri,  2 Aug  2013, 18:48
I'm afraid I can't help you with your query arnaud but I do wonder how much footage, particularly of Poison Ivy, ended up on the cutting-room floor.  I've read on more than one occasion that there was meant to be a scene where Poison Ivy stabs Julie Madison.  That seems way off kilter with the rest of the (overly) light-hearted movie and if it was shot it only makes sense that it was ultimately rejected but I do wonder what happened to Julie in the film and this fabled deleted scene would have explained her disappearance.  Seems most of Batman's women come to a sorry end in these films...or like Catwoman says just deeply resentful.

i have heard of that scene too and i've read everything from it being actually filmed and cut to it being cut before filming to it being just a rumor someone made up. in the book of the movie, ivy makes it look like bruce is going after her instead of julie and so julie leaves him in anger. bruce starts at ivy and she says something like "get away before i scream sexual harassment." its funny how she just randomly disappeared with no explanation at all which leads me to believe her swan song was filmed but they decided it was too dark (no sh*t lol) and left it out.
I like how Pamela Isley mocks Julie in the original screenplay as 'Miss January' and describes her as 'wealthy, beautiful and charming' in contrast to a mousy nerd like her.

I like how she threatens to accuse Bruce of sexual harassment too.  ;D

Anyway, I don't see how Julie's death would have been any darker than the Ice Princess's in 'Batman Returns' or Alicia's off-screen death in the first 'Batman'.
Title: Re: Poison Ivy DELETED SCENE
Post by: Catwoman on Fri, 9 Aug 2013, 03:39
by batman and robin standards, brainiac.
Title: Re: Poison Ivy DELETED SCENE
Post by: johnnygobbs on Fri, 9 Aug 2013, 04:08
Quote from: Catwoman on Fri,  9 Aug  2013, 03:39
by batman and robin standards, brainiac.
Okay okay but you didn't say that genius.  :P
Title: Re: Poison Ivy DELETED SCENE
Post by: Catwoman on Fri, 9 Aug 2013, 04:35
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Fri,  9 Aug  2013, 04:08
Quote from: Catwoman on Fri,  9 Aug  2013, 03:39
by batman and robin standards, brainiac.
Okay okay but you didn't say that genius.  :P

it should have been obvious, rocket scientist.
Title: Re: Poison Ivy DELETED SCENE
Post by: johnnygobbs on Fri, 9 Aug 2013, 04:38
Quote from: Catwoman on Fri,  9 Aug  2013, 04:35
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Fri,  9 Aug  2013, 04:08
Quote from: Catwoman on Fri,  9 Aug  2013, 03:39
by batman and robin standards, brainiac.
Okay okay but you didn't say that genius.  :P

it should have been obvious, rocket scientist.
You should have made it clearer, Sherlock.
Title: Re: Poison Ivy DELETED SCENE
Post by: Catwoman on Fri, 9 Aug 2013, 04:47
oh i'm sorry stevie wonder, i will remember that for next time.
Title: Re: Poison Ivy DELETED SCENE
Post by: riddler on Fri, 9 Aug 2013, 04:56
Quote from: Catwoman on Thu,  8 Aug  2013, 06:29
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Fri,  2 Aug  2013, 18:48
I'm afraid I can't help you with your query arnaud but I do wonder how much footage, particularly of Poison Ivy, ended up on the cutting-room floor.  I've read on more than one occasion that there was meant to be a scene where Poison Ivy stabs Julie Madison.  That seems way off kilter with the rest of the (overly) light-hearted movie and if it was shot it only makes sense that it was ultimately rejected but I do wonder what happened to Julie in the film and this fabled deleted scene would have explained her disappearance.  Seems most of Batman's women come to a sorry end in these films...or like Catwoman says just deeply resentful.

i have heard of that scene too and i've read everything from it being actually filmed and cut to it being cut before filming to it being just a rumor someone made up. in the book of the movie, ivy makes it look like bruce is going after her instead of julie and so julie leaves him in anger. bruce starts at ivy and she says something like "get away before i scream sexual harassment." its funny how she just randomly disappeared with no explanation at all which leads me to believe her swan song was filmed but they decided it was too dark (no sh*t lol) and left it out.

Now that I think about it, Batman and Robin had the lowest body count of the series, I believe the only confirmed death was Jason Woodroe as Julie and all the people Freeze froze were unconfirmed. It's also the only one none of the villains die.
Title: Re: Poison Ivy DELETED SCENE
Post by: Catwoman on Fri, 9 Aug 2013, 04:59
don't forget the guards at arkham when ivy and bane go to bust freeze out.

that seems fun. kissing jesse ventura and then watching him wither and die.

lol that gives me an idea for a post. "people you would like to give a poison kiss."
Title: Re: Poison Ivy DELETED SCENE
Post by: johnnygobbs on Fri, 9 Aug 2013, 05:19
Quote from: Catwoman on Fri,  9 Aug  2013, 04:59
don't forget the guards at arkham when ivy and bane go to bust freeze out.

that seems fun. kissing jesse ventura and then watching him wither and die.

lol that gives me an idea for a post. "people you would like to give a poison kiss."
To which you could add the thread "people you wouldn't mind getting a poisoned kiss from."

Did everyone else but Jason Woodrue survive the lab incident?  I'm thinking of all the various dictators who attended the Bane auction.  Also, did Batman ever manage to save all the people who got frozen at the Rainforest Charity Auction?
Title: Re: Poison Ivy DELETED SCENE
Post by: Catwoman on Fri, 9 Aug 2013, 12:00
i was under the assumption that ivy kills jason and destroys the lab at least a day or so after woodrue murdered pamela during the auction so i doubt the dictators would have been there. if they had been, not much of a loss lol