http://www.batman-online.com/news/2013/7/20/a-supermanbatman-movie-for-2015-flash-justice-league-too
QuoteWe COULD be due for a major announcement from WB/DC any moment now at San Diego Comic-Con!
According to both LA Times Hero Complex and The Hollywood Reporter Warners are expected to announce plans for...
...a Superman/Batman film in 2015...
...a Flash film in 2016....and...
...a Justice League film in 2017!
Warner Bros is expected to announce at its Hall H panel that Zack Snyder will direct the film as a follow-up to Man of Steel. Henry Cavill is due to return as Superman but a new actor will fill the Bat-boots (Christian Bale has indicated publicly that he has moved on from Batman)! David Goyer will write the script.
Batman and Superman first teamed-up in the comics in 1954 and a movie featuring both characters has been on WB's wish list for years now - going back to the failed attempt to bring them together in Wolfgang Petersen's 2004 Batman vs Superman.
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Does Warner Bros' strategy strike anyone else as a total mess? They're clearly trying to play catch-up with Marvel after the success of the Avengers set of films but they're rushing into these films.
Also, does this mean we won't get another standalone Superman film/MOS sequel? I was hoping to see Superman up against Lex Luthor next time around. If this is still a proper MOS sequel that just happens to feature Batman I could possibly go along with it but it's going to be hard for audiences to invest in this incarnation of Batman bearing in mind he won't be played by Christian Bale and will not therefore have had the benefit of a standalone movie establishing him prior to the team-up/JLA movies.
I'm actually liking this option. It certainly makes more sense with WB's strategy than the Batman Beyond rumor.
And while I understand the preference for setting up the rebooted Batman in a standalone first, I think it'd be interesting to introduce the new Batman through the eyes of another superhero whose incarnation audiences are already familiar with. On the live action side, it's a new environment for the character to be presented, rather than releasing another standalone Batman movie within the next couple years that'll reboot the universe in a way that'll satisfy all audiences and won't seem too soon post TDK Rises, and avoids retreading ground we've already seen from all the previous movies, from Batman (1989) through TDK Rises.
EDIT: Confirmed.
QuoteNEXT DC SUPER HERO MOVIE IN PRE-PRODUCTION
Director Zack Snyder Unites Superman and Batman in One Explosive New Film
BURBANK, CA, July 20, 2013 – On the heels of the worldwide success of "Man of Steel," director Zack Snyderis bringing together the two greatest Super Heroes of all time—Batman and Superman—for the first time on the big screen. The announcement was made today by Greg Silverman, President, Creative Development and Worldwide Production, and Sue Kroll, President, Worldwide Marketing and International Distribution,Warner Bros. Pictures.
The current hit, "Man of Steel," has taken in more than $630 million at the worldwide box office to date, and climbing. Along with its star, Henry Cavill, the upcomingfilm brings back Amy Adams, Laurence Fishburne and Diane Lane. The new Batman has yet to be cast.
Snyder is co-writing the story with David S. Goyer, who will then pen the screenplay. Production is expected to begin in 2014, with an anticipated release date inSummer 2015.
Silverman stated, "Zack Snyder is an incredibly talented filmmaker, but beyond that, he's a fan first and he utterly gets this genre. We could not think of anyone better suited to the task of bringing these iconic Super Heroes to the screen in his own way." Kroll added, "We are thrilled to be back in business with Zack and his team on this next movie. The success of 'Man of Steel' is a wonderful testament to the love and support that both fans and new audiences, worldwide, have for these characters. We are very excited to see what Zack has in store for all of us."
Looks like Bale is not coming back and the "new Batman" is definitely going to be a different actor, which I'm 100% happy with. I just tried to imagine Bale doing the "I want you to remember the one man who beat you" speech that they used in today's announcement...
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I'm disappointed that there won't be another standalone Batman movie prior to the 'team-up' but I'll probably get with the project depending on the casting for Batman. It's a shame that we probably won't see another Batman franchise now for a long while but better this than the live-action 'Batman Beyond' concept.
One thing I realized just now is that the new Batman, while played by another actor, will still be written by David Goyer (with Nolan possibly producing), so it will be interesting to see the differences and similarities between Goyer's Batman in the Nolan trilogy vs. Goyer's Batman here.
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Sat, 20 Jul 2013, 18:49Does Warner Bros' strategy strike anyone else as a total mess? They're clearly trying to play catch-up with Marvel after the success of the Avengers set of films but they're rushing into these films.
No they're not. Precisely the opposite, in fact. If they were chasing Marvel, they would have announced Justice League of America as the next thing. They haven't. I've said for a long time that if WB wants to avoid being unfavorably compared to Marvel, they should do Superman, then Batman/Superman, then maybe Batman/Superman/Wonder Woman or else directly to Justice League of America. The middle step makes a big difference. I approve of doing things this way so long as there's not some retarded scene where Batman beats Superman up.
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Sat, 20 Jul 2013, 18:49Also, does this mean we won't get another standalone Superman film/MOS sequel?
No. It just means we won't get one right now.
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Sat, 20 Jul 2013, 18:49I was hoping to see Superman up against Lex Luthor next time around.
You have three Superman films, one Singerman film, two seasons of STAS, one season (and change) of Lois & Clark and seven seasons of Smallville if you want that.
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Sat, 20 Jul 2013, 18:49If this is still a proper MOS sequel that just happens to feature Batman I could possibly go along with it but it's going to be hard for audiences to invest in this incarnation of Batman bearing in mind he won't be played by Christian Bale and will not therefore have had the benefit of a standalone movie establishing him prior to the team-up/JLA movies.
Batman is a name brand unto himself right now. The excitement and interest will be seeing Batman and Superman on the screen together.
Quote from: BatmAngelus on Sat, 20 Jul 2013, 21:26One thing I realized just now is that the new Batman, while played by another actor, will still be written by David Goyer (with Nolan possibly producing), so it will be interesting to see the differences and similarities between Goyer's Batman in the Nolan trilogy vs. Goyer's Batman here.
That same thing occurred to me a while ago too. You'd think Goyer would want to throw in a few things that will deliberately separate the MOS Batman from Nolan's. There are a few ways to do that but in my mind the most obvious way is a different costume and a few lines of dialogue that contradict BB.
QuoteYou have three Superman films, one Singerman film, two seasons of STAS, one season (and change) of Lois & Clark and seven seasons of Smallville if you want that.
There's also still the possibility that Lex will be the villain, as I doubt Batman will hold the villain status in this sequel. Plus, having Lex and Bruce in the same film makes sense as they're both big corporate businessmen with ties to Clark/Superman and it would be interesting to see their contrasting views on this "alien who's come to help us." They'll likely have some opinion of what happened in Smallville and Metropolis as well.
QuoteThat same thing occurred to me a while ago too. You'd think Goyer would want to throw in a few things that will deliberately separate the MOS Batman from Nolan's. There are a few ways to do that but in my mind the most obvious way is a different costume and a few lines of dialogue that contradict BB.
Agreed. If they bring back MOS's Michael Wilkinson as the costume designer, I'll be pretty pumped to see what he comes up with as I thought his Nite-Owl costume in Watchmen was one of the best Batsuits in live action (without intentionally being a Batsuit).
Aside from a different actor and Batsuit, having dialogue contradicting the Nolan trilogy is another easy way to differentiate it. Plus, who knows how much of the Batman supporting cast we'll see. While I doubt they'll bring in Robin or any costumed character from the Bat-family, my money's on us seeing a new Alfred. Someone younger than Michael Caine (and closer to the comic look) would be another easy way to separate it.
Quote from: BatmAngelus on Sat, 20 Jul 2013, 21:47Agreed. If they bring back MOS's Michael Wilkinson as the costume designer, I'll be pretty pumped to see what he comes up with as I thought his Nite-Owl costume in Watchmen was one of the best Batsuits in live action (without intentionally being a Batsuit).
If we get a Nite-Owl inspired Batman costume, I almost don't care what else goes right or wrong for the rest of the film; that
alone would be awesome.
Quote from: BatmAngelus on Sat, 20 Jul 2013, 21:47Aside from a different actor and Batsuit, having dialogue contradicting the Nolan trilogy is another easy way to differentiate it. Plus, who knows how much of the Batman supporting cast we'll see. While I doubt they'll bring in Robin or any costumed character from the Bat-family, my money's on us seeing a new Alfred. Someone younger than Michael Caine (and closer to the comic look) would be another easy way to separate it.
I think an
actual Batmobile would help too. He could drive a fixed up Lamborghini Veneno or something. You could make it work. And hey, Ben Kingsley could play Alfred. Haven't we all dreamed about that?
QuoteI think an actual Batmobile would help too. He could drive a fixed up Lamborghini Veneno or something. You could make it work. And hey, Ben Kingsley could play Alfred. Haven't we all dreamed about that?
YES. And yes, I'd love that! It's not like Trevor Slattery is going to pop up in Avengers 2 or anything, so Kingsley would be free up to cross over to DC, don the tux, and grow out the moustache. I'm picturing him serving breakfast to Bruce in his Metropolis hotel suite right now, ready with a sardonic quip...
EDIT:
I also realized that if Hans Zimmer stays on for the MoS sequel, then he'll likely having to come up with another theme for Batman, which, again, could be very interesting and lead into a future "Which Zimmer Batman theme do you prefer?" discussion. Of course, they could just carry over the music from the Nolan trilogy, but since they're working to separate the universes, I have a feeling Zimmer's going to have to think of something new...
Quote from: BatmAngelus on Sat, 20 Jul 2013, 21:47
QuoteYou have three Superman films, one Singerman film, two seasons of STAS, one season (and change) of Lois & Clark and seven seasons of Smallville if you want that.
There's also still the possibility that Lex will be the villain, as I doubt Batman will hold the villain status in this sequel. Plus, having Lex and Bruce in the same film makes sense as they're both big corporate businessmen with ties to Clark/Superman and it would be interesting to see their contrasting views on this "alien who's come to help us." They'll likely have some opinion of what happened in Smallville and Metropolis as well.
That's what I'm anticipating.
I was pleased that we got a break from Lex with MOS but he is nevertheless an important part of Superman's mythos and although I'd hate to see the new franchise completely dominated by him the way it was with the 1978-1987/2006 franchise I hope he is incorporated in some capacity, especially since the 'LexCorp' trucks that featured in MOS suggest he is part of this world somewhere. I think the problem with previous big-screen Luthor incarnations, as much as I love Gene Hackman, was the goofiness of the portrayal. I don't think there's any risk of that in this all-new, much darker, more sombre take on the comics.
Plus, like BatAngelus says there is plenty of scope for Clark, Lex and Bruce to interact since the last two are two of the richest men in the DC universe and both big corporate tycoons. I hope the new film spends about as much time on the potential Clark/Bruce dynamic as it does on the action between Superman and Batman. If the right actor is cast as Batman and the filmmakers get the chemistry right between the two heroes I could learn to get pretty hyped about this project.
Looks like that Batman Beyond rumour is laid to rest. :)
As for this news, wow. It's exciting, but it's a little concerning at the same time. I only hope that this Batman has the brawn AND the brain this time around. Not exactly thrilled about the Bat-insignia but beggars can't be choosers I suppose.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sat, 20 Jul 2013, 21:33
I approve of doing things this way so long as there's not some retarded scene where Batman beats Superman up.
Unless Batman has kryptonite that helps him beat Superman, I agree. And I hate to say it but I wouldn't be surprised if it eventually happens. Nolan and Goyer have made me go
'WTF?!' many times in the past, so I wouldn't rule out Batman beating up Superman.
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Sat, 20 Jul 2013, 22:20
Plus, like BatAngelus says there is plenty of scope for Clark, Lex and Bruce to interact since the last two are two of the richest men in the DC universe and both big corporate tycoons. I hope the new film spends about as much time on the potential Clark/Bruce dynamic as it does on the action between Superman and Batman. If the right actor is cast as Batman and the filmmakers get the chemistry right between the two heroes I could learn to get pretty hyped about this project.
I speculate the plot will be something like this: LexCorp helps rebuild Metropolis following the climax from the first film, and Luthor has some political agenda while earning people's trust as they fear Superman. Batman, a wanted vigilante, comes to Metropolis to investigate what sort of scheme Luthor is really involved, and possibly after an initial confrontation with Superman, the two will join forces as they look to expose Luthor.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sat, 20 Jul 2013, 21:56
And hey, Ben Kingsley could play Alfred. Haven't we all dreamed about that?
My dream is that Ben Kingsley and Ken Watanabe play the Alfred twins at the start of the movie.
Then at the end it's revealed that the real Alfred twins are actually Guy Pearce and Liam Neeson. :D
In all seriousness, this is what we've wanted for years. Biggest problem is that it has to compete with the amazing World's Finest animated movie.
Can't wait until the teaser comes out. Until then, there's always this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3oN3EJcfwE&feature=share&list=PLZ22UmATpnJlTqPbsh8xwJl8hyaSBe2KD
I am all for this news. Love love love the World's Finest animated movie, which really capitalised on what makes these two characters so great. I greatly prefer this than a Batman Beyond movie.
There was a Wayne Enterprises satellite in MOS.
Bring it on. This has all the potential to be an event.
Snyder will have to do something to give Metropolis and Gotham City instantly recognizable appearances. If they didn't have such a boner for making things realistic, it wouldn't be hard to do at all. But as things stand, I got nuthin. Maybe this will be a transition toward something less realistic. I can hope anyway.
So. I suggested using a modified Lamborghini Veneno as the Batmobile but never posted a pic. Figured I should do so.
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Looks cool to me.
*insert harley quinn "whee!" here*
hopefully batman shows supy that he can and will kick his ass at any moment to shut all the supes fan boys up lol
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 21 Jul 2013, 00:42
I speculate the plot will be something like this: LexCorp helps rebuild Metropolis following the climax from the first film, and Luthor has some political agenda while earning people's trust as they fear Superman. Batman, a wanted vigilante, comes to Metropolis to investigate what sort of scheme Luthor is really involved, and possibly after an initial confrontation with Superman, the two will join forces as they look to expose Luthor.
That's a great outline Laughing Fish and exactly what I'd hope to see both as a natural extension of the events of the first film plus a great way of tying Bruce into the story.
Unfortunately, by typing this out you've probably now jinxed it and they'll end up doing something far less compelling and far more contrived as it usually the way when fans come up with a decent idea for how a comic-book movie franchise should evolve... ;)
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Sun, 21 Jul 2013, 10:13
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 21 Jul 2013, 00:42
I speculate the plot will be something like this: LexCorp helps rebuild Metropolis following the climax from the first film, and Luthor has some political agenda while earning people's trust as they fear Superman. Batman, a wanted vigilante, comes to Metropolis to investigate what sort of scheme Luthor is really involved, and possibly after an initial confrontation with Superman, the two will join forces as they look to expose Luthor.
That's a great outline Laughing Fish and exactly what I'd hope to see both as a natural extension of the events of the first film plus a great way of tying Bruce into the story.
Unfortunately, by typing this out you've probably now jinxed it and they'll end up doing something far less compelling and far more contrived as it usually the way when fans come up with a decent idea for how a comic-book movie franchise should evolve... ;)
Ha ha! Thanks for the nod, johnny! Though I wouldn't be surprised if the filmmakers will lurk on internet forums and steal ideas such as this. ;)
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 21 Jul 2013, 10:20
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Sun, 21 Jul 2013, 10:13
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 21 Jul 2013, 00:42
I speculate the plot will be something like this: LexCorp helps rebuild Metropolis following the climax from the first film, and Luthor has some political agenda while earning people's trust as they fear Superman. Batman, a wanted vigilante, comes to Metropolis to investigate what sort of scheme Luthor is really involved, and possibly after an initial confrontation with Superman, the two will join forces as they look to expose Luthor.
That's a great outline Laughing Fish and exactly what I'd hope to see both as a natural extension of the events of the first film plus a great way of tying Bruce into the story.
Unfortunately, by typing this out you've probably now jinxed it and they'll end up doing something far less compelling and far more contrived as it usually the way when fans come up with a decent idea for how a comic-book movie franchise should evolve... ;)
Ha ha! Thanks for the nod, johnny! Though I wouldn't be surprised if the filmmakers will lurk on internet forums and steal ideas such as this. ;)
Hopefully. As long as you don't expect them to write you a check. ;D
In view of how bombastic the events of the first movie were I would hope for nothing less than Lex running for PODUS once if, as we anticipate, he becomes Metropolis's 'saviour'. I wonder if he'll try and spin the controversial events of MOS's climax in order to make Superman look like the cause of the devastation. I still feel that the 'trust' theme that runs throughout MOS and is predicated on Jonathan Kent's fear about how his adopted son may become stigmatised and attacked by a naturally mistrustful world has yet to fully run its course.
Batman and Lex can have interesting scenes and plotlines; Bruce Wayne is involved in politics so they can easily play that angle.
Is it confirmed which continuity Batman will be from? I'd assume Nolans if Goyer is attached?
I actually like the steps being taken. How I'd build it up if I were running DC would be a bat/supes film, and a JL film minus bat/supes.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sun, 21 Jul 2013, 04:38
Snyder will have to do something to give Metropolis and Gotham City instantly recognizable appearances. If they didn't have such a boner for making things realistic, it wouldn't be hard to do at all. But as things stand, I got nuthin. Maybe this will be a transition toward something less realistic. I can hope anyway.
My hope is that the only reason why Metropolis looked like a regular, real world city in Man of Steel was because most of it was going to get destroyed anyway. In this installment, Lex could help rebuild most of the city, making it into one that's closer to the comics, which would turn the "look of Metropolis" into an actual plot point.
But maybe I'm hoping for too much already...
I think the 'real-world' aesthetic will look ridiculous if the series is building up to the JLA with super-powered Amazonians and green-skinned aliens etc.
I jsut want you guys to know that it's beyond awesome reading your viewpoints about this news and the possibilities of the project.
It's fantastic being around people as knowledgeable as you guys are about the Batman.
I feel enriched everytime I read any of the posts' you guys write.
Thanks a lot !
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Sun, 21 Jul 2013, 17:22
I think the 'real-world' aesthetic will look ridiculous if the series is building up to the JLA with super-powered Amazonians and green-skinned aliens etc.
Same here, I just hope they won't turn Wonder Woman into a super-soldier or something. I could see them doing that for "realism".
Quote from: Batman88 on Tue, 23 Jul 2013, 11:52
I jsut want you guys to know that it's beyond awesome reading your viewpoints about this news and the possibilities of the project.
It's fantastic being around people as knowledgeable as you guys are about the Batman.
I feel enriched everytime I read any of the posts' you guys write.
Thanks a lot !
I hope that's not a good bye call. You come back now, ya here?! ;) 8)
Quote from: Edd Grayson on Tue, 23 Jul 2013, 12:28
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Sun, 21 Jul 2013, 17:22
I think the 'real-world' aesthetic will look ridiculous if the series is building up to the JLA with super-powered Amazonians and green-skinned aliens etc.
Same here, I just hope they won't turn Wonder Woman into a super-soldier or something. I could see them doing that for "realism".
That, and re-inventing the Flash by making him wear a powered-armor suit i.e. GI Joe because it's him becoming naturally fast is "unrealistic". Or Metallo is just some scientist who discovered Kryptonite, not being cyborg himself. Or Prankster having a Glasgow smile on his face because being a clownish figure is "unrealistic"...I'll get my coat. :-[
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 23 Jul 2013, 12:34
Quote from: Batman88 on Tue, 23 Jul 2013, 11:52
I jsut want you guys to know that it's beyond awesome reading your viewpoints about this news and the possibilities of the project.
It's fantastic being around people as knowledgeable as you guys are about the Batman.
I feel enriched everytime I read any of the posts' you guys write.
Thanks a lot !
I hope that's not a good bye call. You come back now, ya here?! ;) 8)
Quote from: Edd Grayson on Tue, 23 Jul 2013, 12:28
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Sun, 21 Jul 2013, 17:22
I think the 'real-world' aesthetic will look ridiculous if the series is building up to the JLA with super-powered Amazonians and green-skinned aliens etc.
Same here, I just hope they won't turn Wonder Woman into a super-soldier or something. I could see them doing that for "realism".
That, and re-inventing the Flash by making him wear a powered-armor suit i.e. GI Joe because it's him becoming naturally fast is "unrealistic". Or Metallo is just some scientist who discovered Kryptonite, not being cyborg himself. Or Prankster having a Glasgow smile on his face because being a clownish figure is "unrealistic"...I'll get my coat. :-[
Hey Laughing Fish, I ain't going anywhere, don't worry ;), it was just a commendation for you guys and the awesome opinions you have on all things Batman.
Might be interesting (if the rumors are true that this is taking a Batman V Superman approach) to cast Batman as THE antagonist of the movie. and once the dust settles allow some professional animosity to carry on into JLA. As the film progresses you reveal more and more about this 'volatile vigilante in Gotham City that Superman is not hearing nice things about. Nut job. Fanatic.
Anticlimactic. maybe, to not have a villain that enters the final act, especially considering it'll be the first on screen pairing and it might make a fizzle of the ending if they end in stalemate and not in working together. But, I'd certainly welcome a break from the typical 'each man wins a round, and are ultimately manipulated into huge throw down midpoint in the movie by a villain, which of course falters and they mash his house/hq/business empire down'. Might be cool to foreshadow the events of TDKR2 if not, obviously, outright do it.
Then again, seeing Bruce combat Lex Luthor on a cooperate level, and Superman as a villain is enticing.
QuoteI speculate the plot will be something like this: LexCorp helps rebuild Metropolis following the climax from the first film, and Luthor has some political agenda while earning people's trust as they fear Superman. Batman, a wanted vigilante, comes to Metropolis to investigate what sort of scheme Luthor is really involved, and possibly after an initial confrontation with Superman, the two will join forces as they look to expose Luthor.
This is exactly what I'd hope for, with the 'rebuilding of metropolis' woven in. From what I understand, Supes' originators eventually moved the man of steel to Metropolis as a nod to Fritz Lang--and what an impressive production design that film has even by today's standards! Here's hoping. :)
As others have mentioned, there will need to be sharp aesthetic differences between Gotham and Metropolis. The story will not be serviced by Chicago/Pittsburgh for Gotham.
I was lukewarm to MoS (certainly an upgrade from Superman Returns, but the third act lacked logic, was a bit messy, and I didn't like that JK died for a dog), and hated hated hated Dark Knight Rises. Despite the same creative team being in control of the project, this is the first time in several years I've been excited for a DC-based property! :) Possibly due to the filmmaker's need to betray the American realism sub-genre angle they had attempted in their previous version of Batman as it's now Batman and an Alien.
Fan man-ip of Josh Brolin as Batman
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^ While we're at it, here's a fan made teaser poster I found on the 'net:
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Here's a manip of Caviezel in the TDKR cowl. I've always thought he was a dead ringer for the Neal Adams Bruce Wayne. And this image neatly illustrates the likeness.
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Hopefully the cowl in the new movie will be better than the design from the Nolan films. I never liked the small gap around the mouth.
Incidentally, I didn't create this manip. It came from here: https://pt-br.facebook.com/pages/Jim-Caviezel-as-Batman/187374948020641?hc_location=timeline
Brolin would be ok, and I wouldn't sook if he were cast. But if I were in charge, I'd give it to Caviezel.
The only problems I have with these rumours of Batman being portrayed by an older actor is the long-term. Will any of these actors be comfortable or even fit enough to appear in a potential JL or Batman sequels? That's my concern.
Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Sat, 3 Aug 2013, 16:43
Hopefully the cowl in the new movie will be better than the design from the Nolan films. I never liked the small gap around the mouth.
The cowl in those films were indeed hideous. Bulky, pointy nose, a design that looks so compressed that Bale's mouth looks like it's bulging out... :-[ Hoping for a return to the original design in the Burton/Schumacher franchise.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 4 Aug 2013, 01:25
The only problems I have with these rumours of Batman being portrayed by an older actor is the long-term. Will any of these actors be comfortable or even fit enough to appear in a potential JL or Batman sequels? That's my concern.
Yep, same here. I hope WB aren't thinking short term here, strictly what they want for
this movie.
On the same note, WB has had a boner for casting 20-somethings for ages now. I'm trying to figure out what makes this any different.
I will say that I think it's an odd decision to reboot the character by introducing him as an older, veteran Batman in his late 30s/early 40s, inspired by The Dark Knight Returns...
...when the last Batman film ended with an older, veteran Batman in his late 30s/early 40s, inspired by The Dark Knight Returns.
That's right, Angelus. I'm not sure what to think.
I can see Brolin in the role. That manip helps. He's well known but not too well known. He does fit the bill of an older, pissed off Batman. Though hopefully not on the verge of retirement ala Bale's Bat. Brolin also has the, I suppose humour and humanity of Bruce Wayne.
If he could do three or four films I'd be more accepting of this decision. But can he?
On the plus side, there would be no origin retread. Just references, ala B89, BR and such.
We'll see.
Brolin is perfect in every way!
Do you think Catwoman will put in an appearance? Does anyone know if she appears in the Batman vs. Superman books? I really need to take a look at them.
I don't if this should be taken with a grain of salt or not but according to this source, filming is beginning this weekend!
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'Batman vs. Superman' football scene to shoot at East Los Angeles College this weekend
Let the games begin – Batman vs. Superman officially starts shooting this weekend! Last month we heard that extras were needed from an October 19th shoot in Los Angeles, but organizer Be In A Movie later announced that the scene may be cut and that they had to cancel. Now we know that the shoot in back on, thanks to the East Los Angeles College Campus News:
Warner Bros. Pictures new untitled Superman/Batman project comes to film at East Los Angeles College Weingart stadium during halftime of the Oct. 19 Husky football game.
ELAC and Victor Valley College will kickoff the game at 6:30 p.m. At halftime, the stadium will transform into Gotham City University home stadium.
Warner Bros. Pictures announced through a press release that Snyder and producers of the film are looking for people in the Los Angeles area, preferably ELAC students, to be extras for the upcoming film.
The stadium will be made into the backdrop for a football game between Gotham City University and rival Metropolis State University.
The first 2,000 people who sit in the filming area of the stadium will receive T-shirts designed by Snyder for those participating in the filming and prizes will be raffled throughout the night.
The crowd will sport Gotham Citys colors, black and gold.
The film will shoot three takes of three plays during halftime. The crew will be capturing the actors and crowd's reactions.
ELAC's College event and Venue Coordinator, Ernest Burnett, said that the filming will be about 20 minutes during halftime. The second half of ELAC's game will follow the film shoot.
Snyder decided to use ELAC's stadium to support ELAC and the community.
"They could have done this on a night when we didn't have a home game. They wanted to support the school," Burnett said.
This is exciting news and confirms that Gotham City will definitely have a role in the Man of Steel sequel. If you're in the Los Angeles area and are able to attend this weekend, take pictures if you can (and send them in)! Lets just hope that Bane doesn't show up at this football game...
SOURCE: East Los Angeles College Campus News (via Latino Review)
http://batman-news.com/2013/10/15/batman-vs-superman-football-scene-shoot-east-los-angeles-college-weekend/ (http://batman-news.com/2013/10/15/batman-vs-superman-football-scene-shoot-east-los-angeles-college-weekend/)
Yet another football stadium scene. Though what are the odds that this is just false?
Rumour: WB is registering possible domain names which might reveal the name of the film.
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Warner Bros. registers domains for possible 'Man of Steel 2′ title
- Man of Steel Battle the Knight
- Man of Steel Beyond Darkness
- Man of Steel Black of Knight
- Man of Steel Darkness Falls
- Man of Steel Knight Falls
- Man of Steel Shadow of the Night
- Man of Steel The Blackest Hour
- Man of Steel The Darkness Within
Source: http://blogs.canoe.ca/projectionist/movies/warner-bros-registers-domains-for-possible-man-of-steel-2-title/ (http://blogs.canoe.ca/projectionist/movies/warner-bros-registers-domains-for-possible-man-of-steel-2-title/)
I hope this is only a rumour, because all those suggestions are terrible.
The film has been pushed back 10 months, and is now coming out in May of 2016.
http://variety.com/2014/film/news/superm-1201062720/ (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/superm-1201062720/)
^ That's funny.
Disappointing to say the least. Feels like a cruel joke, but it's not.
It's probably for the best since it now allows them to work on the script and decide what they want this sequel/spin-off/whatever to actually be.
Well, I have mixed feelings about this project to begin with (mostly positive), so I really hope this turns out to be a good thing--give them more time for the script, etc. etc. I'd rather a great project that takes longer to bake, than a rushed project that disappoints.
MoS suffered a delay, and while a decent entry, could have done with a host of improvements. So more time is not always a good thing.
I was on the BOF forums, and Jett said there's some bad news on the way. AT first he made it sound like a positive thing, but he just said he got some more info on it, and there should be an announcement soon.
I'm thinking it has to do with casting.
Quote from: Travesty on Sun, 19 Jan 2014, 19:50
I was on the BOF forums, and Jett said there's some bad news on the way. AT first he made it sound like a positive thing, but he just said he got some more info on it, and there should be an announcement soon.
I'm thinking it has to do with casting.
I hope Affleck is still in. I may be in the minority but I think he's a great pick for Batman and there are a heck of a lot worse choices out there.
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Sun, 19 Jan 2014, 20:57
Quote from: Travesty on Sun, 19 Jan 2014, 19:50
I was on the BOF forums, and Jett said there's some bad news on the way. AT first he made it sound like a positive thing, but he just said he got some more info on it, and there should be an announcement soon.
I'm thinking it has to do with casting.
I hope Affleck is still in. I may be in the minority but I think he's a great pick for Batman and there are a heck of a lot worse choices out there.
I would be livid if Affleck withdrew, especially given the undeserved flack he received by those wankers. The last thing I want is for them to have satisfaction. Hopefully this is a rumour and nothing more.
While I'm supporting Affleck if he really does pull out of this I'll be joining all his hecklers. Michael Keaton had the balls to stay the course with all his negative reaction after all.
Not sure I believe this Warners crap about "fully realising their vision". Burton and Nolan did all that in their sleep on time and on schedule. Burton in fact in a more difficult time and with a hell of a lot more to prove. So why can't Snyder? I find this director more of a weak and concerning link than Affleck. Let's face it he aint no Richard Donner. So why on earth has this man been entrusted with the world's two most iconic superheroes? Perhaps because nobody else could be bothered to do the job in a climate saturated with too many superhero movies? The real shame is Robert Zemeckis (Back to the Future, Forest Gump, Death Becomes Her, Who Framed Roger Rabbit) I heard somewhere was offered "Man of Steel" and sadly turned it down. Oh man how I would have loved him bringing his talents to Superman. I think we missed something truly special there.
I think the real reason for the push back is purely profit. The 2015 summer slate was announced to be a madly packed and exciting collection of movies. Best summer since the days of 1989 potentially. Sadly it's now all been gutted like a fish. Studios are panicking there is too much competition so are obviously pulling out of the schedules to preserve their personal cash cows. Hasn't the new Star Wars even been pushed back? I think that film of all is the cause for the panic of money loss.
His wife said she's seen the suit and it's "unbelievably cool".
A grey Arkham game style suit would fit that description.