I was looking through an old forum i saved to read later a couple of months ago and was wondering if anyone on here has veiwed it before?
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Batman-Forever-Dark-Knight-Edition/topic/8039/
A friend of mine on deviantart told me it was decleared to be fake but i dunno seems pretty legit even though this cut and it's pictures hasn't been brought up for years but i just wanna be certain if anyone has seen it or seen pictures/videos about it.Any info would be helpful :)
Quote from: BatmanFanatic93 on Tue, 19 Mar 2013, 06:24I was looking through an old forum i saved to read later a couple of months ago and was wondering if anyone on here has veiwed it before?
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Batman-Forever-Dark-Knight-Edition/topic/8039/
A friend of mine on deviantart told me it was decleared to be fake but i dunno seems pretty legit even though this cut and it's pictures hasn't been brought up for years but i just wanna be certain if anyone has seen it or seen pictures/videos about it.Any info would be helpful :)
Not sure what you mean by "fake" vs. "legit". The description says it is a fan edit.
Wow, that thread brought back memories. I've seen ScissorPuppy's posting years before. Batman Beyond's post really brought back memories, too, since some of those suggestions were made by me years ago. We're talking pre-Batman Begins-on-the-other-forum era.
Not sure which parts of those suggestions were mine and which parts were Batman Beyond's, though I know the "Impostor Two-Face" suggestion was definitely his.
I have to say that my feelings have probably changed over the years and some of the things that may have bothered me years ago probably don't now and aren't really huge flaws of the movie to me. For example, I think Goldenthal's music perfectly fits the movie and the only way an Elfman score is going to feel natural to Batman Forever is if he did a full-on alternate score himself.
I will also say that I myself don't despise the 1960s series at the moment. If that was me who said that, maybe I was just in my "Batman must be dark, screw everything else" period. I really don't remember.
You can re-edit the movie to put the first act's events in their original order, put the deleted scenes back in, and cut out stuff like the "I'll get drive-thru" line, but in the end, I don't think it'll make the movie that much better.
To me, the best version of Batman Forever is the Peter David novelization (see other thread) and there's no fan edit that can bring that version to life.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Tue, 19 Mar 2013, 06:45
Quote from: BatmanFanatic93 on Tue, 19 Mar 2013, 06:24I was looking through an old forum i saved to read later a couple of months ago and was wondering if anyone on here has veiwed it before?
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Batman-Forever-Dark-Knight-Edition/topic/8039/
A friend of mine on deviantart told me it was decleared to be fake but i dunno seems pretty legit even though this cut and it's pictures hasn't been brought up for years but i just wanna be certain if anyone has seen it or seen pictures/videos about it.Any info would be helpful :)
Not sure what you mean by "fake" vs. "legit". The description says it is a fan edit.
I mean't if the fan edit was real or not sorry :P
Quote from: BatmAngelus on Tue, 19 Mar 2013, 07:27
You can re-edit the movie to put the first act's events in their original order, put the deleted scenes back in, and cut out stuff like the "I'll get drive-thru" line, but in the end, I don't think it'll make the movie that much better.
To me, the best version of Batman Forever is the Peter David novelization (see other thread) and there's no fan edit that can bring that version to life.
Well i wouldn't say that really cause there's alot of great moments in batman forever that is just covered in with the silliness and campiness and if edited properly it can be a better entry to the 90's batman series heck i even posted something here for a cut i'm doing which i kinda went back and forth on but came back to it recently cause i was trying to figure how to make batman forever better by taking notes from the comic book adaption and the novelization (yes i finally got novel)while trying to make the film connect better with the first two
here's a rough cut clip i months ago of what i'm trying to achieve in the cut.
http://vimeo.com/56671364
And here's a new update of what to expect in the cut.
1: New main titles/credits matching the style of the previous films
2: Entire film will be re-scored with music by danny elfman (don't worry i'm not gonna over lap the original score with elfman's instead i removed the original music from the film)
3: Remixed flashback sequences
4: Two-face and riddler have been tone down to match their comic book counterparts more
5: Colors have been mute alot to a point where it's black and white with a little bit of color
6: Deleted scenes have been added in of course but have some been altered
7: The 89 batmobile has return
8: New alternative ending
9: Restored timeline
10: Blusish tint is mixed in
11: Gotham is darker
12: Deleted any useless material that make no sense to the story
13: Bat guns and missiles have return to make the claw island battle more meaningful
QuoteWell i wouldn't say that really cause there's alot of great moments in batman forever that is just covered in with the silliness and campiness and if edited properly it can be a better entry to the 90's batman series heck i even posted something here for a cut i'm doing which i kinda went back and forth on but came back to it recently cause i was trying to figure how to make batman forever better by taking notes from the comic book adaption and the novelization (yes i finally got novel)while trying to make the film connect better with the first two
here's a rough cut clip i months ago of what i'm trying to achieve in the cut.
To expand on my previous statement, I feel that fan editors are always going to be limited to the finished film and deleted footage. It's not their fault, but no matter what, Two-Face is still going to be one-dimensional in this movie*. Even with cutting little moments like his tantrum in the chopper, Tommy Lee Jones is still going to be over-the-top in his performance and so is the actor playing the trapped bank guard. And while adding some of the deleted dialogue/footage back in was nice, it doesn't change or improve the sequence/the story that much. I liked that you brought in "If the bat wants to play, we'll play" that I remember from way back in the trailer and the "Have you looked in the mirror lately?" deleted scene. But putting those lines back in didn't add much more to the sequence to me. It's certainly a cool, new experience to watching it, but I feel the same way as I said before.
* And honestly, I don't find the portrayal to be that much of the "bastardization" of the character these days, after I read Chuck Dixon's take on him in Prodigal and found the character was pretty much like that around '94-95.
Yeah, the problem people make with trying to fanedit Batman Forever is that they try to make it into something it's not. It's not a Tim Burton movie. It's not a movie with a lack of neon. The only effective way to do a complete overhaul of the film in that way would require access to the film's individual audio apart from the music. You could cleanly alter the music into Elfman's that way and make it seamless, but it the footage doesn't really fit that music anyway.
The only way to make BF better is to re-integrate the deleted scenes, reshuffle the opening act into its scripted form, and maybe trim a few absurd moments. But try to trim too much, and it'll look like stuff is missing. The film as made is too integrated with its over-the-top stylings. So editors who try to cut everything over the top just make the film seem like swiss cheese. You can only cleanly remove stuff that A) excises whole moments entirely or B) stuff that has no music behind it, so it isn't obvious something was removed. "I'll get Drive-thru" could be removed, because it's a quiet sound field, for example.
I've always wanted an extended cut of BF that does as I've said above, but nobody tries for that. Everyone tries to make it into a Burtonized film, and it can never work that way. It's like taking Raiders of the Lost Ark and trying to make it into a Superman movie with a music change. The footage is what it is, it can never be anything different.
I've never subscribed to the idea that BF needed that kind of overhaul anyway. As BatmAngelus said, Two-Face actually has been like that in the comics before (I've read a few tales from the 70s/80s where he's pretty nutty as well), and so has the Riddler. People may wish for other performances, but they aren't inaccurate. Towit, there really isn't anything inaccurate in BF... just not to what most want. Me? I just want an engaging story, melodrama, and action/adventure. BF has all that in spades. I even like the neon lighting. It's harmless, just like the Batnipples. The story doesn't make those things anything more than aesthetic, that stuff can be ignored. I never noticed there were nipples on the customes, for example, until the internet pointed it out to me!
An extended cut that didn't try to "Burtonize" the footage would simply make the story stronger and help balance against the humorous tint the film's theatrical cut has. Someone should seriously just try that.
Quote from: DocLathropBrown on Tue, 19 Mar 2013, 18:34
An extended cut that didn't try to "Burtonize" the footage would simply make the story stronger and help balance against the humorous tint the film's theatrical cut has. Someone should seriously just try that.
The red book edition does do that and is a fan favorite on fanedit.org
QuoteYeah, the problem people make with trying to fanedit Batman Forever is that they try to make it into something it's not. It's not a Tim Burton movie. It's not a movie with a lack of neon. The only effective way to do a complete overhaul of the film in that way would require access to the film's individual audio apart from the music. You could cleanly alter the music into Elfman's that way and make it seamless, but it the footage doesn't really fit that music anyway.
Agreed completely.
QuoteThe only way to make BF better is to re-integrate the deleted scenes, reshuffle the opening act into its scripted form, and maybe trim a few absurd moments. But try to trim too much, and it'll look like stuff is missing. The film as made is too integrated with its over-the-top stylings. So editors who try to cut everything over the top just make the film seem like swiss cheese. You can only cleanly remove stuff that A) excises whole moments entirely or B) stuff that has no music behind it, so it isn't obvious something was removed. "I'll get Drive-thru" could be removed, because it's a quiet sound field, for example.
Right. And even then, I don't see how adding back the deleted scenes will make Batman Forever into a drastically better movie.
1. The Bat Must Die opening would've certainly been a darker start and created a nice bookend since the film ends with Arkham and Dr. Burton, too. But on a story level, it wouldn't tell us more than what we already find out later- Two-Face escapes Arkham and wants revenge on Batman. Sure, it serves as an introduction to Dr. Burton, but Burton's hardly a significant character in the narrative.
2. The "You're a killer, too" dialogue in the helicopter sequence against Two-Face might've been a nice tie-into Bruce telling Dick later about how lost you can become in your own vengeance. There's some nice callbacks to Two-Face's origin, too. But again, this doesn't add much. It's really just a few lines of new dialogue. The current movie already covers the idea of killing Two-Face more extensively in the scenes between Bruce and Dick and this dialogue was probably cut for pacing, so it wouldn't seem like Two-Face and Batman were stopping their fight to chat.
3. Batman getting tricked into visiting the salon. Now this definitely would've shown that Batman wasn't just sitting around Wayne Manor as Riddler and Two-Face were going on a crime spree. However, is it really that clear from this scene alone that it was the Box that tricked Batman into going there? It could've been cut in the first place for this reason. Unless you've got an additional scene of us seeing Riddler's Box messing up the police frequencies or something that makes it clear that Riddler was behind the mixup, it just shows Batman showing up at the wrong place. And do we really want to see a bunch of hairdressers mocking and laughing at our hero? That ending bit can be cut, but still, adding this would only be a small fix to a small issue that would potentially open up a bigger problem if the scene's unclear how Bats got tricked and instead just makes him look incompetent. Even if that wasn't a problem, it remains a very small fix in the grand scheme of things (to a problem that most people probably didn't notice upon first viewing).
4. Bruce visiting Dick at the gym. It's not a bad scene, but again, it doesn't contribute anything new, except saying that Dick completed repairing the motorcycle. There's a bunch of (better) scenes in the movie of Bruce talking to Dick about how vengeance won't help him heal. This would've been a bit more of the same. Sure, it's a better way of showing that Dick has fighting skills than the laundry scene. But its addition wouldn't be that significant to the story, compared to the Bruce-Dick scenes that are currently in the movie and move more of their story forward.
5. Then, there's the scene with the news reporter and Bruce questioning how much longer he can do this. Now this would be a nice addition that explores more of Bruce's character and brings in the red diary subplot. The fast-talking news reporter fits right into the Forever's cartoonish tone, though, so if you have issues with that, this scene won't exactly be an improved addition either.
6. The next scene in the Batcave where Bruce finds the diary is probably the biggest one to add.
And yet, we don't have the footage of Bruce in bed asking "Cave? What cave?" when Alfred says the cave's been destroyed, so the fact that Bruce suddenly has no memory in the scene is going to feel like it's come out of the blue in any fan edit.
And even if we did have that footage, thecolorsblend brought up a great point in another thread that the scene itself slows the pacing down significantly as we head toward the climax and giving Bruce amnesia at this point feels like a big detour in the story. It'd be nice to see edited it back into the movie and probably be the most significant addition, since it'd explain what was written in the red diary that made young Bruce run away in the rain, as well as explain the motivation behind "Not because I have to be. Now because I choose to be" line.
But again, this one sequence isn't going to significantly improve the other two hours of the movie that much in my mind and risks dragging down the pacing with five minutes of amnesia as we head toward the final confrontation.
7. The ending with Alfred driving Chase. It's a nice little moment that's probably shooting to replicate the previous films' endings that also had Alfred behind the wheel, but, again, putting it back in won't add much to what we've got.
As a sidenote, I know a lot of people would've wanted to see the original Batman-and-Robin standing on the gargoyle, but the current ending is fine with me. There's a natural flow from Chase's "Don't work too late" to Bruce watching her go with the marching drums fading into the score to Batman and Robin showing up against the Bat Signal.
Adding the Chase moment in between would interrupt the flow of that, which, again, was probably why it was cut in the first place.
Even if you were able to cut from the Chase scene to the original unseen rooftop shot, would aping B89 really make the ending that much better? Not really, in my opinion. It'd just come across as trying to copy one of the previous movies.
8. Now, putting the first act back in the original order would be interesting to see, too, but again, I don't see how it'd be a significant improvement to the story. The movie's current first act isn't exactly hard to follow. Putting Bruce's meeting with Edward before fighting Two-Face would reorder things, but that's all. It'd just be a different order.
The biggest thing it'd change, narratively, is that it'd set Chase and the Bat-Signal scene much later in the movie, after Bruce sees the signal in Wayne Manor and before encountering Two-Face. Sound editing-wise, Chase would have to say "last night at the circus" instead of "last night at the bank" like in the script, which I guess would make more sense since Chase never actually did see Two-Face at the bank (more on this later). Plus we'd actually know the reason why the Bat Signal was lit, rather than it randomly bringing Batman out to encounter Two-Face and his gang.
BUT even then, this isn't huge or a significant upgrade to what we've already got. The point of the GCPD rooftop scene is Chase trying to seduce Batman. Her thoughts on Two-Face are just an excuse to get him there anyway. (Plus it's not far fetched for her to talk about the coin without seeing Harvey yet since she works with Commissioner Gordon, so I don't consider "Last night at the bank" to be a glaring plot hole that needs fixing). It also isn't really necessary for us to know why the Bat Signal's shining the night that Bruce lets Dick stay in Wayne Manor. This is Gotham, crime is all over the place.
If anything, I prefer keeping Chase and the Bat-Signal scene where it is. It flows much better to have her trying to get into Batman's pants shortly after meeting him at the bank, where he's fresh on her mind from the night before vs. trying to seduce him later, the night after she nearly got blown up by Two-Face and saw the Graysons fall to their deaths.
So in the end, if we were to add all the deleted scenes and put the movie in its original scripted order, we'd get four new scenes that would've been nice but don't add much more to the movie than extra screentime, plus three new scenes that either would've filled in only small blanks or added a few minutes more to Bruce's story, but would've still created its own coherency and pacing problems with the rest of the movie.
An improvement? Not by that much, in my opinion.
^ The above is the detailed version of my argument for leaving BF as it is. The aesthetics and the plot are what they are. Changing anything would pretty much require going all the way back to pre-production from scratch, which is beyond what a "fan editor" can accomplish.
Man after reading all of this i'm starting to reconsider not doing my cut at all :-X
I'll say this, BatmanFanatic, I love that you've got passion for this film and for movie editing. If you want to do your own cut of Batman Forever, don't let us stop you. And heck, if you post clips here, I'll probably still watch them just to get a different viewing experience of the scenes, like I did with your reworked helicopter sequence.
I don't know if you're an aspiring editor, but if you are (and you certainly seem to have the skills and passion for it), I just feel like your time and effort will pay off much more on your own original film projects, than on re-editing an 18 year old movie.
Quote from: BatmAngelus on Wed, 20 Mar 2013, 04:48
I'll say this, BatmanFanatic, I love that you've got passion for this film and for movie editing. If you want to do your own cut of Batman Forever, don't let us stop you. And heck, if you post clips here, I'll probably still watch them just to get a different viewing experience of the scenes, like I did with your reworked helicopter sequence.
I don't know if you're an aspiring editor, but if you are (and you certainly seem to have the skills and passion for it), I just feel like your time and effort will pay off much more on your own original film projects, than on re-editing an 18 year old movie.
Wow BatmAngelus thanks for the kind words it's really means alot :) cause i been on this project since i 2010 and even made a rough cut of the entire film once which i won't go into cause i was just starting out and it'll be one heck of story how i got better :P but anyways reading this reply jolted my spirits up to recutting it again btw i'm kinda both i recut movies and write movies which i hope to ether direct or produce it depending on the budget and how to get actors for the film in the future so yeah thanks :D
i'll call you joel from now on. :P
so how does this work? you like take the old movie and cut it up and take stuff out and add stuff and put it back together?
Quote from: Catwoman on Wed, 20 Mar 2013, 08:24
i'll call you joel from now on. :P
so how does this work? you like take the old movie and cut it up and take stuff out and add stuff and put it back together?
Oh haha very funny selina ;D
And yes it's very much like that :)
Quote from: BatmanFanatic93 on Wed, 20 Mar 2013, 08:46
Quote from: Catwoman on Wed, 20 Mar 2013, 08:24
i'll call you joel from now on. :P
so how does this work? you like take the old movie and cut it up and take stuff out and add stuff and put it back together?
Oh haha very funny selina ;D
And yes it's very much like that :)
ooooooo. i want to do that! how do i do it?
keep in mind that explaining anything to me is like explaining to the ice princess how to light a tree.
Quoteooooooo. i want to do that! how do i do it?
keep in mind that explaining anything to me is like explaining to the ice princess how to light a tree.
O.o umm wow i'm gonna teaching someone how to recut a movie...ALRIGHT LET'S DO IT!!! :D
Okay first i'm gonna just put down a list on how to recut a movie and i'll do my best to make it simple as possible my feline friend.
1:The movie
This quite simple all you have to do is pick out a movie that you feel could have been better and take it into your own hand and re-do on how you think the movie should have been! ;)
2:Editing system program
This is very important in when doing a recut cause in order to make a good recut your gonna need all the help you can get and there is alot of good programs that can help you achieve your goal in doing your cut i can reccomend a program that i'm using that has helped me in my videos and the program is videopad video editor it's quite the helpful program to edit stuff plus it's easy to use :)
3:Soundtrack & sound effects
Depending what on movie your editing you ether wanna mute the entire music when it plays and just replace the whole scene with sound effects and score which can work it's just gonna be hard though cause there are some scenes in movies where you want to keep a certain audio that's important ether to the story or dialog so what i would suggest is get AV Music Morpher Gold v5.0.41 which will allow you to deleted the entire music in the movie and replace it with new music "WARNING:DIALOG WILL STAY BUT SOUND EFFECTS MAYBE DELETED IN PROCESS SO YOU'LL JUST HAVE REPLACE THEM NEW SOUND EFFECTS IF YOU CAN"and it's easy to use as well. :D
4:Add & Deleting
Okay sometimes when a film is released there are certain scenes or shots that were not included in the final cut of the movie so you'll have to do your best and find every footage that was cut ether in trailers or in music videos and decide whether or not if they should be in the film,Deleting footage is pretty easy cause all you have to rewatch the movie your recutting and write down any thats ether harmful to the story or doesn't make any sense whatsoever then come back to the list and delete what you wrote down but if you know the movie by heart you'll know what to do.
5:Remixing
In some films there are certian scenes that are ether too plain or too slow for your taste and with creative thinking you can remix the scene by moving shots into different places to make the scene more interesting or more exciting like this for example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1rht7IRgd4
And that's pretty much too it but don't let it fool you cause sometimes you have to be really committed to the project and have to do your best :)i should know it took me a couple of weeks to figure out these things and i was 16 when i started and i did fan trailers first back in 08 cause i didn't know how to recut a entire film but eventually i did and you'll get the hang of it just like so many other fan editors and myself kay?
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Quote from: Catwoman on Wed, 20 Mar 2013, 10:21
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Ummm.... :-[ heheh...HEY LOOK A GIANT DANCING RAT!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u27T-pvymMM&list=FLSuPogjSvr2WcoFhdi_QCUw&index=2
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Quote from: Catwoman on Wed, 20 Mar 2013, 10:54
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:-\ *waves my hand infornt of your face* hello?Selina?.... ??? i think i lost her
Even if one dislikes the current film - truth is, the real bastardisation of BF would be tampering with it. It's a Schumacher directed film and he made it as such.
But yeah, I don't see any harm in fans playing around with editing tools at all. Go for it.
Quote from: BatmanFanatic93 on Wed, 20 Mar 2013, 10:56
Quote from: Catwoman on Wed, 20 Mar 2013, 10:54
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:-\ *waves my hand infornt of your face* hello?Selina?.... ??? i think i lost her
after you confuse the sh*t out of me you show me a huge dancing RAT. what did you think would happen?
... here's the intro provided by BatmAngelus from the Schumacher's Cut Thread (http://www.batman-online.com/forum/index.php?topic=2262.0).
It might be a dumb question since I haven't touched the Batman Forever special features disc for many years (and don't have access to my DVDs right now), but is that opening credits sequence (after 2:00) from the deleted scenes? Yes the credits are obviously fanmade, they even have typos (Bob Cane?) and the score consists of Sleepy Hollow edited with some 89 and Returns (re-recordings, maybe RSNO (http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/9193/Batman+Trilogy,+The), not the original score) but I don't know where this footage comes from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4HczEQaVCc
Quote from: Catwoman on Wed, 20 Mar 2013, 18:41
Quote from: BatmanFanatic93 on Wed, 20 Mar 2013, 10:56
Quote from: Catwoman on Wed, 20 Mar 2013, 10:54
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:-\ *waves my hand infornt of your face* hello?Selina?.... ??? i think i lost her
after you confuse the sh*t out of me you show me a huge dancing RAT. what did you think would happen?
I dunno maybe get a good laugh out of it?
Quote from: SilentEnigma on Wed, 20 Mar 2013, 19:28
... here's the intro provided by BatmAngelus from the Schumacher's Cut Thread (http://www.batman-online.com/forum/index.php?topic=2262.0).
It might be a dumb question since I haven't touched the Batman Forever special features disc for many years (and don't have access to my DVDs right now), but is that opening credits sequence (after 2:00) from the deleted scenes? Yes the credits are obviously fanmade, they even have typos (Bob Cane?) and the score consists of Sleepy Hollow edited with some 89 and Returns (re-recordings, maybe RSNO (http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/9193/Batman+Trilogy,+The), not the original score) but I don't know where this footage comes from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4HczEQaVCc
The footage of the human brain comes from a doucmentary about brains and neurons it's on youtube
Quote from: BatmanFanatic93 on Tue, 19 Mar 2013, 06:24
I was looking through an old forum i saved to read later a couple of months ago and was wondering if anyone on here has veiwed it before?
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Batman-Forever-Dark-Knight-Edition/topic/8039/
A friend of mine on deviantart told me it was decleared to be fake but i dunno seems pretty legit even though this cut and it's pictures hasn't been brought up for years but i just wanna be certain if anyone has seen it or seen pictures/videos about it.Any info would be helpful :)
I remember reading the thread way back when it was first posted. I would love for this to be real but there are too many questionable statements. For example, he mentions the runtime as being 2hrs 5 Mins but there aren't enough deleted scenes on the DVD to get it up to that length.
He also posted about it on Superherohype:
QuoteA professional editor in hollywood worked on this edit for over 2 years. It was edited on a high end editing system. I was at the "party" where it was first shown. 10 copies were given out, but I don't think this edit was ever inteneded to go beyond them. I have tried very hard to get a copy, but I haven't had any luck. That was almost 6 months ago when i saw it.
Chances are if someone claims to have this edit, they are A lying B have a different edit that they think is this one or C hussling you.
I think since most of the people involved in the edit work in hollywood, they'd rather not release it and keep it to themselves. For fear of some sort of "blacklisting". I can say that next to the rumored pending schmacher edit, this is the best version of BF ever. And fits very much with the first two films.
What are the odds that a hardcore Batman fan would just happen to be at a "party" where a professional film editor was screening a fanedit of Batman Forever that it took him two years to create?
Having said that, that thread partly inspired me to start fanediting myself. I've occasionally edited a few scenes in Batman Forever just for my own personal enjoyment. Main difficulty I have is that the Goldenthal music is pretty much in every scene which means that to rescore you have to mute it and rebuild the sound mix. Of course, it's even more time-consuming if there's dialogue in the scene which you want to keep.
I also really like the idea of using footage from The Client to show Dent before he became Two-Face.
I'll try to complete a clip one of these days and post it.
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Having said that, that thread partly inspired me to start fanediting myself. I've occasionally edited a few scenes in Batman Forever just for my own personal enjoyment. Main difficulty I have is that the Goldenthal music is pretty much in every scene which means that to rescore you have to mute it and rebuild the sound mix. Of course, it's even more time-consuming if there's dialogue in the scene which you want to keep.
I also really like the idea of using footage from The Client to show Dent before he became Two-Face.
I'll try to complete a clip one of these days and post it.
Y'know i had the same problem when i was redoing batman forever with music so i downloaded AV Music Morpher Gold v5.0.41 which deletes the original background music and keeps the dialog and some of the sound effects but sometimes you have to add some new ones yourself but anyways if you want to add a new score for batman forever i recommend AV Music Morpher Gold v5.0.41
Thanks for the tip! I'll have to check that out.
In general, the first thing I do is use DVD Audio Extractor to split the audio streams. With some films, if you're lucky, you can get an audio track with only SFX/Dialogue. Unfortunately, I tried it with all the Burton/Schumacher films and was only able to find two short scenes in which this worked. I had more luck with the Nolan films.
Quote from: phantom stranger on Sat, 30 Mar 2013, 17:04
Thanks for the tip! I'll have to check that out.
In general, the first thing I do is use DVD Audio Extractor to split the audio streams. With some films, if you're lucky, you can get an audio track with only SFJ/Dialogue. Unfortunately, I tried it with all the Burton/Schumacher films and was only able to find two short scenes in which this worked. I had more luck with the Nolan films.
Huh y'know i tried the same thing before but for the life of me i couldn't even figure it out so i went with a different program and boom i went with AV Music Morpher Gold which was tricky to understand but i got the hang of it under a couple of mins.
DVD Audio extractor is really easy to use.
The instructions you'll want to follow are here:
http://www.dvdae.com/dvdae/tutorial/wav
Just make sure that you select "save each channel into separate file." It will create six wav files. The one that may have useful audio is usually the third one.
Quote from: phantom stranger on Sat, 30 Mar 2013, 18:04
DVD Audio extractor is really easy to use.
The instructions you'll want to follow are here:
http://www.dvdae.com/dvdae/tutorial/wav
Just make sure that you select "save each channel into separate file." It will create six wav files. The one that may have useful audio is usually the third one.
Thanks man :)
Where does one get to see the Red Book Edition? I've seen various fan edtis, but it occurs to me I haven't seen this one--the holy grail of BF. At least, I don't recall seeing it.