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Title: Batman 3 Plot Details?
Post by: The Dark Knight on Wed, 27 Jan 2010, 04:58
Over at this page possible Batman 3 plot details are given.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BrentSprecher/news/?a=14222

Apparently they have a basic plot outlined.

The article states:

Quote1. The plot should be outlined in time for the screenwriting to begin in February.

2. The Riddler is the primary villain and he figures out Batman's identity.

3. Arkham Asylum will figure prominently in the story.

4. Several classic villains will cameo, including the Penguin and Mr. Freeze (though as Dr. Fries, not as the supervillain).

5. Barbara Gordon will have a featured role.

6. Commissioner Gordon will mention Metropolis and possibly Lex Luthor.

7. Dick Grayson may be in the movie (though probably not as Robin).

This information is not verified, but we can still discuss our thoughts about this.
Title: Re: Batman 3 Plot Details?
Post by: Catwoman on Wed, 27 Jan 2010, 05:18
kind of glad no catwoman.
Title: Re: Batman 3 Plot Details?
Post by: The Dark Knight on Wed, 27 Jan 2010, 05:20
If this is legit, I'm not a fan at all of Gordon mentioning Metropolis and Lex Luthor. Especially in Nolan's world. Just don't go there.
Title: Re: Batman 3 Plot Details?
Post by: johnnygobbs on Wed, 27 Jan 2010, 11:19
This sounds like bunkum to me, although I could be wrong.

As to my response to the individual points assuming any of them are true:

1.  Hopefully, someone will start work on the screenplay soon.

2. The Riddler is what everyone expected and I have no issue with that, although I would like to see a female villain too to add a bit of variety (i.e. Catwoman or Talia, or even Harley Quinn if there is someway of incorporating her now that The Joker story has been done).

3. I wonder if there will be a new Arkham following the events of the first film.

4.  I'm not sure I like the idea of overloading the film with too many cameos, although I wouldn't object to a non-Mr Freeze Dr Fries in the Nolan-universe.

5.  Hw's Barbara Gordon going to be incorporated into the film bearing in mind she was a baby in the last two films, unless the rumour is referring to Gordon's wife having a bigger role in the next film, or Barbara Gordon  was absent from the last film because she's been away at college, or is the Commissioner's niece or something...

6.  The filmmakers shouldn't make any reference to the Superman mythology, not in Nolan's real world anyway.

7. I though Nolan categorically stated no Robin, so I don't see what possible purpose Dick Grayson could serve in these films.
Title: Re: Batman 3 Plot Details?
Post by: Grissom on Wed, 27 Jan 2010, 12:13
I think about half of those outline can work, especially like featuring Arkham Asylum. The script will have to top notch to pull off a great third movie.
Title: Re: Batman 3 Plot Details?
Post by: Paul (ral) on Wed, 27 Jan 2010, 12:27
They all look to be a "fan-boys" wishlist not Nolan's.
Title: Re: Batman 3 Plot Details?
Post by: Catwoman on Wed, 27 Jan 2010, 14:41
yea maybe but if it was a fan boy's list wouldn't they have had something explicitly saying that angelina jolie plays catwoman? lol.

didnt gary oldman say something like "we won't need the joker when we have the riddler?" when they were talking about heath ledger being dead? it was right after tdk came out.

i like the riddler so that could be fun. i look great in green too so maybe i'll audition for one of his sexy henchgirls. 
Title: Re: Batman 3 Plot Details?
Post by: johnnygobbs on Wed, 27 Jan 2010, 15:09
Quote from: Catwoman on Wed, 27 Jan  2010, 14:41
i like the riddler so that could be fun. i look great in green too so maybe i'll audition for one of his sexy henchgirls. 

I shouldn't think Query and Echo would feature in a Nolan-directed Batman film, especially not in their trade-mark fish-net tights and green outfits...shame.   :-\
Title: Re: Batman 3 Plot Details?
Post by: The Joker on Wed, 27 Jan 2010, 18:05

This DOES seem a bit fanboy-ish.
Title: Re: Batman 3 Plot Details?
Post by: Azrael on Thu, 28 Jan 2010, 00:12
Yeah, this looks as authentic as the "poster" artwork.
Title: Re: Batman 3 Plot Details?
Post by: BTTFSpencer on Thu, 28 Jan 2010, 09:48
nolans films are crummy. Who cares?

They may be clever but they aren't fun to watch, just deppressing and cle she' of the Miller graphic novels.

At least Burton had imagination, now it is all tank this and growlingley deep unrealistic voice that.
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LAME.

Dont bash me because I have an opinion. to each their own. I'm not saying his films were terrible, just not enjoyable to watch.

Burtons films and schumachers films were FUN and ENJOYABLE to watch. Whereas nolans films feature cuts, guns and mass murdering yucks.
Title: Re: Batman 3 Plot Details?
Post by: The Dark Knight on Thu, 28 Jan 2010, 11:31
Quote from: BTTFSpencer on Thu, 28 Jan  2010, 09:48
They may be clever but they aren't fun to watch
Agreed. They are a chore to watch. And I don't really find them clever. They have plenty of plot holes.

Quote from: BTTFSpencer on Thu, 28 Jan  2010, 09:48
Dont bash me because I have an opinion. to each their own. I'm not saying his films were terrible, just not enjoyable to watch.
I'm certainly not going to bash you. I share your opinion. I know lots of others do. You can have this view and freely express it around here without receiving a verbal beat down.
Title: Re: Batman 3 Plot Details?
Post by: The Dark Knight on Thu, 28 Jan 2010, 13:06
Just showing Victor Fries, yeah, they can get away with that, right?

I don?t think so.

If they show Fries, they have confirmed the possibility Mr. Freeze can exist in Nolan?s world. Even if we never see him in his full glory. And that is absolutely absurd. Nolan?s Batman cannot accommodate such villains as seen in the comic books. Whatever is said, it cannot. And if they are used, they are massaged and altered in ways so that they can.

Doing such alterations to Mr. Freeze would lose the very core character, being he is below freezing in a suit and wields an ice cannon. You cannot escape that. Nolan can only really utilize The Riddlers and Jokers, who are essentially nut jobs who dress up in suits.

But showing Victor Fries in the world Nolan has constructed? Absurd. Don't go there.
Title: Re: Batman 3 Plot Details?
Post by: Azrael on Thu, 28 Jan 2010, 21:20
Good point. The Mr Freeze part was the most fishy about this "news".

On the subject of the Nolan films - what I hate about them is what has been pointed out many times but I feel like repeating: many act like they have to take sides about what is a "proper" Batman film version, instead of appreciating each version for what it delivers. Why every f***ng thing has to be like football, LOL?
Title: Re: Batman 3 Plot Details?
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sat, 30 Jan 2010, 02:04
Quote from: silenig on Thu, 28 Jan  2010, 21:20
On the subject of the Nolan films - what I hate about them is what has been pointed out many times but I feel like repeating: many act like they have to take sides about what is a "proper" Batman film version, instead of appreciating each version for what it delivers.
True. When one side is stating how superior one set of films is compared to the other "obviously inferior" set, a war is bound to happen. It's a natural reaction. People like that feel they must trash every single aspect of the past to justify the future. Doing that just makes me dislike the film they are championing even more.
Title: Re: Batman 3 Plot Details?
Post by: thecolorsblend on Tue, 2 Feb 2010, 03:35
It's been a while since we've heard some bogus news.  I guess it was about time for some more.  What, no "Angelina Jolie will be Catwoman" "news"?  I am shocked!  Shocked!

A glimpse of Dr. Fries would be cool... but as TDK says, it opens up a big can of worms.

The Metropolis thing is what convinces me that this is most likely crapola.

Other stuff...

Quote from: BTTFSpencer on Thu, 28 Jan  2010, 09:48nolans films are crummy. Who cares?
Speaking as someone who prefers the Burton films, I'd say Nolan's fans probably care.

QuoteDont bash me because I have an opinion. to each their own. I'm not saying his films were terrible, just not enjoyable to watch.
Generally speaking, people don't get bashed on or banned around here for having a different opinion.  I can think of another Batman movie fan page where that happens but not so much this one.  As long as you remember to never say anything positive about the Schumacher films, you should be okay.

QuoteBurtons films and schumachers films were FUN and ENJOYABLE to watch. Whereas nolans films feature cuts, guns and mass murdering yucks.
Oy, now you've done it.  :)
Title: Re: Batman 3 Plot Details?
Post by: The Dark Knight on Tue, 2 Feb 2010, 04:17
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Tue,  2 Feb  2010, 03:35
The Metropolis thing is what convinces me that this is most likely crapola.
Same. I just can't see Nolan violating his "real" world with a reference to a City where an invulnerable alien flies around fighting super-villains.
Title: Re: Batman 3 Plot Details?
Post by: BTTFSpencer on Tue, 2 Feb 2010, 07:10
I think it would be cool to have a new Batmobile.
Title: Re: Batman 3 Plot Details?
Post by: The Dark Knight on Tue, 2 Feb 2010, 07:13
Quote from: BTTFSpencer on Tue,  2 Feb  2010, 07:10
I think it would be cool to have a new Batmobile.
I'd like to see another Tumbler, but if not, something in line with the Arkham Asylum video game Batmobile would be welcome. It still retains the all terrain abilities, but it has a more traditional look. Aspects of the past are rolled into one, actually.