What you think of these choices for a Batman A.S. Movie ? ? ?
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no offense. avril lavigne as harley is the stupidest thing i've ever heard.
Quote from: Catwoman on Thu, 22 Oct 2009, 11:07
no offense. avril lavigne as harley is the stupidest thing i've ever heard.
They are all stupid suggestions.
ok i was trying to be nice but yea. lol.
Quote from: Catwoman on Thu, 22 Oct 2009, 12:03
ok i was trying to be nice but yea. lol.
I'm not nice. I'm honest. ;)
C'mon guys, Angie Everhart as Poison Ivy at least looks the part.
As to the others... I'll never understand the desperation some fanboys have to put Angelina Jolie into a comic book movie.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Fri, 23 Oct 2009, 15:51
C'mon guys, Angie Everhart as Poison Ivy at least looks the part.
ok yes i agree there. i've never heard of her though lol.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Fri, 23 Oct 2009, 15:51
C'mon guys, Angie Everhart as Poison Ivy at least looks the part.
As to the others... I'll never understand the desperation some fanboys have to put Angelina Jolie into a comic book movie.
she was alright in "wanted"
if angie everhart could act she would be perfect for ivy
Quote from: Catwoman on Thu, 22 Oct 2009, 11:07
no offense. avril lavigne as harley is the stupidest thing i've ever heard.
i know. she would have to smile every now again - an impossible feat!
As much as I hate to beat up on a guy when he's down, I can't say I was overly impressed with any of the choices. And how come you only focused on the female characters? ::)
There are so many actresses who would be perfect for Harley Quinn (I can think of Kristen Bell, Scarlett Johanssen or Anna Faris among others), that I'm not sure why you went with a sulky 'sk8er (sic) chick' who probably can't act, and is kind of plain-looking.
Couldn't you have picked a Latino actress for Officer Montoya, as opposed to the over-exposed Angelina Jolie?
And could someone please explain to me the appeal of Kate Beckinsale? If I saw her at work or a club, sure I'd think she was very attractive, but as far as film actresses go she seems kind of ordinary, and I'm not overly-impressed by her acting ability (see Pearl Harbour or Underworld, or rather don't).
Maybe Angie Everhart looks a little like Poison Ivy although she must now be a good 10 years older than the character is meant to be in the series, and I suppose Johanssen and Bellucci could play Zantanna and Red Claw respectively (assuming Bellucci could do a Russian accent) but apart from that, meh!
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Fri, 23 Oct 2009, 23:08And could someone please explain to me the appeal of Kate Beckinsale?
It's not that I disagree with you, it's just that I'd take her any day over Jennifer Connely, another plain as hell fanboy fave.
I swear, people criticize movie studios for having a short list of actors they want no matter what the role but when it comes to comics films, fanboys have a list too. The same names pop up every time speculating casting starts. Jim Caviezel was a favorite for the Batman reboot, Superman in Ratner's movie, Jor-El for Singer's Superabortion and Superman again in the cancelled JLA flick.
Anyway. All this to say that Beckinsale is another such name.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Fri, 23 Oct 2009, 23:27
It's not that I disagree with you, it's just that I'd take her any day over Jennifer Connely, another plain as hell fanboy fave.
The thing about Connelly though is that even if you personally don't find her particularly attractive she still has a certain classical film star look which a lot of today's female leads don't have. Especially in The Rocketeer and Mulholland Falls. I'm not suggesting that Connelly should be everyone's cup of tea, or even that she is a favourite of mine, but I do think she has a classical look that sets her apart from the typical girl you might see on the street.
I remember back when BTAS had just started, everyone said Marisa Tomei should play Harley Quinn. If I recall correctly, Harley mentions she's not a real blonde so the hair color thing wouldn't have been a problem.
Quote from: phantom stranger on Sat, 24 Oct 2009, 13:51
Harley mentions she's not a real blonde
:o :o :o :o :o
:'(
my life is a lie!
Quote from: phantom stranger on Sat, 24 Oct 2009, 13:51
I remember back when BTAS had just started, everyone said Marisa Tomei should play Harley Quinn. If I recall correctly, Harley mentions she's not a real blonde so the hair color thing wouldn't have been a problem.
Wow, didn't know that. I can SO see Tomei as Harley in a live action film.
Tomei definitely has the Brooklyn accent for the role.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Fri, 23 Oct 2009, 23:27
It's not that I disagree with you, it's just that I'd take her any day over Jennifer Connely, another plain as hell fanboy fave.
Oh yeah, Jennifer
Connelly has always been such a plain jane. ::)
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Give me a ****ing break.
QuoteAnd could someone please explain to me the appeal of Kate Beckinsale? If I saw her at work or a club, sure I'd think she was very attractive, but as far as film actresses go she seems kind of ordinary, and I'm not overly-impressed by her acting ability (see Pearl Harbour or Underworld, or rather don't).
Well, Kate's not a completely inept actress (atleast not to the extent of Megan Fox), but yeah her acting ability is certainly
unmemorable to say the very least. She's also not
unattractive, or plain as hell, but I always found her looks to be a bit too Hollywood cookie cutter for my tastes. And thus, largely forgettable.
QuoteI remember back when BTAS had just started, everyone said Marisa Tomei should play Harley Quinn. If I recall correctly, Harley mentions she's not a real blonde so the hair color thing wouldn't have been a problem.
You're absolutely correct. Harley does indeed mention in TAS that she's actually not a real blonde. Which I found to be an interesting little tidbit to mention about her character. ;D
Sorry, but I'm with colors. Jennifer Connelly doesn't do anything for me. She strikes me as plain and dull. I think it has something to do with her face. I see plenty of plain Jane gals out there in the big wide world like her - and a lot are often better.
Quote from: The Joker on Sat, 24 Oct 2009, 17:03
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Suddenly I have a tremendous urge to watch Dark City and The Hulk...on mute.
Quote from: The Joker on Sat, 24 Oct 2009, 17:03Oh yeah, Jennifer Connelly has always been such a plain jane. ::)
Give me a ****ing break.
I don't have the kind of free time I'd need but 10:1 I could find at least one (or six) pics where she's nothing special.
Sad to say, I could look beyond appearances if she was at least a compelling actor. Serviceable, perhaps, but she never really struck me as anything special. A good example is the Hulk. She was just bland and flat in the role. Liv Tyler, by constrast, brought a sense of goofy nerdiness to the character and also a believeable sense of melancholy and loss. Tyler is hardly a top flight performer but she did more with the role in ten minutes than Connelly did with all 12 hours of Hulk 2003 (or however long that wretched abortion was).
You could argue that the differences are due to the two actors having different directors. Fair enough. But the dull, flatness is something Connelly brings to every role. If you need mopey, bland line-readings from a (typically) plain jane actress, hey, Connelly's your girl without a doubt.
If you want something with life and energy to it... well, look elsewhere, I guess.
lol i love it when dorky guys talk down about a girl's appearance. i've seen all of you in the what do you look like post and none of you are anything to write home about so idk what gives you the idea that you have any room to diss her.
Quote from: Catwoman on Sun, 25 Oct 2009, 12:29
i've seen all of you in the what do you look like post and none of you are anything to write home about so idk what gives you the idea that you have any room to diss her.
Yeah, well, neither are you. And you have not seen me.
thanks for the laugh.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun, 25 Oct 2009, 03:33
Sorry, but I'm with colors.
Real
shocker there. :)
QuoteI don't have the kind of free time I'd need but 10:1 I could find at least one (or six) pics where she's nothing special.
Are you actually implying that every famous actress, or actor doesn't have one pic (or six, or ten, or fifteen for that matter) out there that is less flattering than others? Really?
Of course it's all subjective, but it's a bit too easy to google up a pic of someone famous and say, "Hey! They don't look so hot there!" ::)
That's grade school stuff.
QuoteSad to say, I could look beyond appearances if she was at least a compelling actor. Serviceable, perhaps, but she never really struck me as anything special. A good example is the Hulk. She was just bland and flat in the role. Liv Tyler, by constrast, brought a sense of goofy nerdiness to the character and also a believeable sense of melancholy and loss. Tyler is hardly a top flight performer but she did more with the role in ten minutes than Connelly did with all 12 hours of Hulk 2003 (or however long that wretched abortion was).
Everyone has their preferences, but as far as Ang Lee's HULK goes, I thought it was a fairly decent effort in trying something that wasn't necessarily
lightened up for the kids. Which was exactly the case with 2008's The Incredible Hulk. Liv Tyler, as far as her acting is concerned, was sincerely the most
unmemorable performer in that film by far. I had my doubts on Hurt, since I quite enjoyed Sam Elliot's General Ross, but his performance was surprisingly good. Norton certainly made for a more traditional Bruce Banner, but I never got that feeling of repressed rage that Bana made a point in conveying in the 2003 effort (which is actually a pretty important aspect to the character). Other than that, no complaints. Tim Roth made for a entertaining Emil Blonsky ... but Liv? Eh,
someone had to play Betty.
QuoteYou could argue that the differences are due to the two actors having different directors. Fair enough.
You could also argue that both films had very distinct tones to them as well. Ang Lee's HULK was certainly more somber than that of the 2008 Incredible Hulk film. Which was, to say the very least, more akin to the Ferrigno/Bixby tv show, and a much lighter film as it was made to be that summer popcorn movie that everyone expected Ang Lee's version to be following Sam Raimi's
Spider-Man the previous year.
QuoteBut the dull, flatness is something Connelly brings to every role.
Never found her to be dull in
The Rocketeer, nor did I find her to be anything remotely flat (acting or body wise) in
Mulholland Falls,
Requiem for a Dream,
Inventing the Abbotts,
House of Sand and Fog,
Blood Diamond, or
A Beautiful Mind.
*shrug*
QuoteIf you need mopey, bland line-readings from a (typically) plain jane actress, hey, Connelly's your girl without a doubt.
If you want something with life and energy to it... well, look elsewhere, I guess.
Well, since we're right back to grade school plain jane comments, I must say Connelly
does it for alot of guys. And obviously, I'm no exception. Actually, since I'm a comic book fan, one of my favourite cover artist's is Adam Hughes. Who often uses Jennifer's beauty as a reference for Wonder Woman Much like how other artists reference other famous celebs.
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Quote from: Catwoman on Sun, 25 Oct 2009, 12:29
lol i love it when dorky guys talk down about a girl's appearance. i've seen all of you in the what do you look like post and none of you are anything to write home about so idk what gives you the idea that you have any room to diss her.
You ain't seen what I look like. Besides, I wouldn't want to blow your mind. ;D
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Sun, 25 Oct 2009, 14:45
Quote from: Catwoman on Sun, 25 Oct 2009, 12:29
lol i love it when dorky guys talk down about a girl's appearance. i've seen all of you in the what do you look like post and none of you are anything to write home about so idk what gives you the idea that you have any room to diss her.
You ain't seen what I look like. Besides, I wouldn't want to blow your mind. ;D
;D
So the old Jennifer Connelly debate has reignited, this time on yet another thread. ;D
Don't worry The Joker, I'm pretty much with you on this, both with respect to Connelly and with respect to the Hulk movies, both of which I liked a lot (unlike many critics unfortunately).
Although one thing I will say about Connelly is that her beauty in a given film is almost inverse to the quality of her performance (kind of like Charlize Theron in Monster). Jennifer Connelly looked amazing in The Rocketeer, Inventing the Abbotts and Mulholland Falls, but her best performances were in House of Sand and Fog, A Beautiful Mind and Requiem for a Dream (I hear she is also good in Waking the Dead). I personally have mixed feelings about A Beautiful Mind and Requiem for a Dream which was practically unwatchable at times (although I liked House of Sand and Fog a lot), but I can't deny that Connelly gave fine performances in those films, along with The Hulk, in which she and Bana invested genuine heart into what might have been a typical comic book story.
I think what Catwoman is trying to say is this:
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Quote from: phantom stranger on Sun, 25 Oct 2009, 20:59
I think what Catwoman is trying to say is this:
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yup. i think if you diss how someone looks you should have to show what you look like so we can diss you.
That's hysterical Phantom, and I agree with the sentiment. Too many fan-boys go on about how they 'wouldn't hit that', when you know for a fact the only sexual intimacy they've experienced is with the palm of their hand.
To be fair though, I haven't personally dissed anyone's looks. I praised Connelly, and with respect to Beckinsale, I suggested that by most standards she is obviously very attractive, but she just doesn't have that spark that most classic movie star have IMO (see for instance Kim Basinger or Michelle Pfeiffer, although that may be a generational thing).
Nor have I ever dissed anyone's looks on this site. I may put up my picture eventually, but according to my various girlfriends I don't tend to photograph as well as I look in reality, which I realise may sound like a lame excuse, but is something I hear quite a lot.
i know exactly what you mean johnny :-[ :)
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Sun, 25 Oct 2009, 22:45
That's hysterical Phantom, and I agree with the sentiment. Too many fan-boys go on about how they 'wouldn't hit that', when you know for a fact the only sexual intimacy they've experienced is with the palm of their hand.
Strange as this may be to understand, this is not the Special Olympics. We don't give points based on "how hard they try". My point in mentioning Connelly's blah appearance is that it's a perfect match for her blah acting. A person's worth should not be determined based on how they look...
... however, since we're discussing names for films made from comic books (a highly stylized vehicle for a specific type of fiction), their appearance is a consideration.
That's my only point. And in relation to those things, I don't find Connelly to be a compelling option, particularly not when a better one can likely be easily found.
Quote from: The Joker on Sun, 25 Oct 2009, 14:23
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun, 25 Oct 2009, 03:33
Sorry, but I'm with colors.
Real shocker there. :)
Er, what?
I'd like some elaboration here.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Mon, 26 Oct 2009, 01:21
Strange as this may be to understand, this is not the Special Olympics. We don't give points based on "how hard they try".
If you're refering to a comment I made in another thread, I was only joking.
But then again, maybe I wasn't. Maybe this is a Special Olympics crowd. To tell you the truth, the way people get around here, most of the time I think it is.
Of course, I'm joking with that comment. Or am I?!
FYI, you want to be careful with the Special Olympics jokes--they could get you in hot water... ;D
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7129997&page=1&page=1
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Mon, 26 Oct 2009, 03:11
Er, what?
Er, don't be a stranger to sarcasm.
Kinda like saying, if I agree with you, we would
both be wrong. ;D
Quote from: johnnygobbsSo the old Jennifer Connelly debate has reignited, this time on yet another thread.
Well I had to bite once her name was brought up. ;)
QuoteDon't worry The Joker, I'm pretty much with you on this, both with respect to Connelly and with respect to the Hulk movies, both of which I liked a lot (unlike many critics unfortunately).
Although one thing I will say about Connelly is that her beauty in a given film is almost inverse to the quality of her performance (kind of like Charlize Theron in Monster). Jennifer Connelly looked amazing in The Rocketeer, Inventing the Abbotts and Mulholland Falls, but her best performances were in House of Sand and Fog, A Beautiful Mind and Requiem for a Dream (I hear she is also good in Waking the Dead). I personally have mixed feelings about A Beautiful Mind and Requiem for a Dream which was practically unwatchable at times (although I liked House of Sand and Fog a lot), but I can't deny that Connelly gave fine performances in those films, along with The Hulk, in which she and Bana invested genuine heart into what might have been a typical comic book story.
Yeah, she's quite excellent in "Waking the Dead". And I get what you mean on "Requiem". I'm pretty much in the same boat, it's one of those films where I don't find myself watching that often due to it's extremely bleak tone. Viewing the film, you just
know this isn't going to end on a good note. But if anything, it very much pointed out the talent of Darren Aronofsky as a director.
QuoteToo many fan-boys go on about how they 'wouldn't hit that', when you know for a fact the only sexual intimacy they've experienced is with the palm of their hand.
;D
Bingo.
You see 'em on alot of message boards. Funny little buggers.
Quote from: phantom strangerI think what Catwoman is trying to say is this:
Well played. ;D
There's a particular scene in Requiem for a Dream featuring Connelly that is particularly difficult to watch. Anyone who has seen the film will know what I mean. Suffice to say, although some (twisted) types might disagree, it's certainly not one of Connelly's sexiest moments on film.
I wouldn't recommend that film for anyone with a diagnosis of chronic depression...
i'll have to pass then. not that i've seen her in anything else besides that photo in this thread lol.
Quote from: Catwoman on Mon, 26 Oct 2009, 21:44
i'll have to pass then. not that i've seen her in anything else besides that photo in this thread lol.
Watch The Rocketeer instead. I reckon you'd like it. Most people I know who have seen it do.
she was in that? ok i've seen her then. lol.