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Title: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Gotham Knight on Tue, 6 Oct 2009, 17:57
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Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Paul (ral) on Tue, 6 Oct 2009, 21:07
I think it's fake.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Tarzan1941 on Tue, 6 Oct 2009, 21:16
Hey Guys, is there more to this or just an inside joke?  I don't see a picture or a link that will take me to a picture. 
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Paul (ral) on Tue, 6 Oct 2009, 21:28
Yeah it doesn't seem to show up

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/Images/stories/2009/sep/cagesuperman.jpg
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: BatmAngelus on Tue, 6 Oct 2009, 21:36
The authenticity is dubious to me.

If it's real, it was obviously not from a professional photographer, not just due to the bad quality, but also due to the white background being skewed and that Cage's eyes are half-closed.

The glare off of the suit makes it look like a plastic action figure.  

And what is up with the line around his neck?

As for the long hair...I know Superman has the long hair after being resurrected in the comics, but I don't think they were planning on carrying that over in the film.  I could be wrong, though.

I also don't think the photo matches up to previous reports of Cage's costume test, but I'd have to dig them up to make sure.  I'm pretty sure one described Cage as having the "traditional spit curl" which he certainly does not in the photo.

Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Tarzan1941 on Tue, 6 Oct 2009, 23:27
Thanks for the link.  It wouldn't open in Firefox, but opened in Internet Explorer.

My five thoughts:

(1) He looks like he is on drugs. 

(2) With his hair like that, he reminds me of a member of the KISS Army sans make -up.

(3) Speaking of KISS, he looks a lot like Nick Simmons, Gene's kid in this pic.

(4) The line around his neck looks like a cut line from an autopsy.  However if this was a Michael Bay film, I am sure the line would be a necklace that Superman wears because instead of the crystals and the Fortress of Solitude, he could just rub his necklace and Jor-El would appear.

(5) The costume is God-Awful.  Let's all thank everyone that this movie was never, ever, ever made if this is indeed a real photo.  He looks like he was poured into the suit and I don't mean that in the silly, romantic kind of way either.   
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Paul (ral) on Wed, 7 Oct 2009, 00:29
What tells me its a fake is
the blue blur around the neck
the single light source - don't photographers use several "defused" lamps
Cage's neck - too long
Cage's hairline
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: The Dark Knight on Wed, 7 Oct 2009, 00:56
It's a run through at best. Or just a fake. I can't imagine Burton putting something like this out on his worst day.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: thecolorsblend on Wed, 7 Oct 2009, 02:03
If it's meant to be something for the make up or costume departments, a professional photographer wouldn't be involved.  This is supposedly a costume test, not a publicity shot.

That doesn't make it legit, I'm just trying to bring some balance into this.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: BatmAngelus on Wed, 7 Oct 2009, 02:51
Good point. 
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Kamdan on Wed, 7 Oct 2009, 02:51
Uh, ral, I think that's just a photo someone took AT the photo shoot for the test.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Paul (ral) on Wed, 7 Oct 2009, 10:34
I'm still not convinced - i think it is a ploy to get the "real" photos released.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: The Joker on Wed, 7 Oct 2009, 13:38

I remember seeing this "supposed" leaked photo of Cage as Supes on a website awhile back, and while the photo is hilarious, it also looks quite fake as well.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Kamdan on Wed, 7 Oct 2009, 21:26
I think it's real. It's pretty much everything it was described as in the book Superman vs. Hollywood. I do remember it being described as "looking like a toy" and what does it look like?!  ;D
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: The Joker on Thu, 8 Oct 2009, 06:33

The stuff nightmares are made of?
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Grissom on Thu, 8 Oct 2009, 17:58
Oh Joker, LOL LOL, you crack me up, well...I guess that's your job.

(before you gas me!)  ;D
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: zDBZ on Sun, 11 Oct 2009, 05:05
The picture looks fake to me.

But...

If you go here:

http://www.timburton.jp/gallery/unproduce/sl/sl-tbart.php

You will find Tim Burton's sketch of Superman. It's a Japanese site and I can't understand anything on there, but if you click around enough, you will find some fantastic stuff.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: phantom stranger on Sun, 11 Oct 2009, 09:29
Supermanhomepage.com has been posting that guy's scoops for some time now. He's considered to be a reliable source of info for the Burton film.

Because of that site's reputation, I think it's real. However, I think it's important to remember a few things:

It was obviously not a promo pic. Just a pic some one took when Cage was doing a costume fitting or something like that.

The costume looks fake because it is fake. It's a shiny blue muscle suit, just like Keaton wore a dark muscle suit. For what it's worth, Routh had a padded suit as well.

Too bad it wasn't the actual screen test that leaked--then we'd know for sure.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Kamdan on Sun, 11 Oct 2009, 16:14
Yeah, they do have a bunch of stuff of his. They have a YouTube channel that has most of his early film works.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Sandman on Mon, 12 Oct 2009, 12:24
Real or fake they look pretty cool.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Redskull on Mon, 12 Oct 2009, 17:07
um none of those links work, none of them do. so i dont know what you guys are even looking at.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: phantom stranger on Wed, 14 Oct 2009, 05:29
Quote from: Redskull on Mon, 12 Oct  2009, 17:07
um none of those links work, none of them do. so i dont know what you guys are even looking at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfcJc7j_A3Y

http://www.youtube.com/user/timburtonjp
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: greggbray on Tue, 27 Jul 2010, 02:37
You know,

While I find the Cage casting dubious at best, the rest of the art department considerations, even the costume (which is a leap up from Routh's IMO), looks pretty interesting.

It's a shame Jon Peters screwed the whole damn thing up, there may have been an interesting (if not faithful) film adaptation in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: gordonblu on Sun, 22 Aug 2010, 18:40
I love the Burton-drawn concepts for Brainiac; very 50's sci-fi with the usual Burton flair. Not sure how rabid Superman fans would feel though.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ABWwAwl1hE

As an actually articulate youtube poster in the comments pointed out, Brainiac's face looks a little like Davros from Dr. Who. Yet another reason for me to like it I guess.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Kamdan on Sat, 28 Aug 2010, 19:03
If you look at page 227 of the book Superman vs. Hollywood, there is a passage that details that Cage took snap shots of himself in the prototype Superman suit so he could show it to his son. That's one of the snap shots, so it's real.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: gordonblu on Sat, 28 Aug 2010, 20:47
If that was a prototype, then more than likely the finished version would have looked 10 times better.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Kamdan on Sun, 29 Aug 2010, 00:16
Mmm-hmm. That's the case. I also recall hearing that the prototype resembled a plastic figure and what does it look like? ;)
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: gordonblu on Sun, 29 Aug 2010, 01:36
The prototype is kind of like a foreign bootleg of a Kenner action figure.


the final costume might have been somewhat like this...
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sun, 29 Aug 2010, 02:50
Judging by the concept art, the alien side would have been really emphasied. I actually would have liked people to have referred to him only as Kal-El during the movie. I think the film would have had him odd in a way that a legitmiate visitor would be. I guess Superman started out in the 'traditional' suit with his long hair and drug hazed look - which he sees no problem with, and then evolved after his death. The new suit literally grows onto his dead body like a symbiote, rejuvinating him in the frozen wasteland that is the Fortress of Solitude. Hence his white skin. As life breathes back into his body, the symbiote strengthens into it's true form and colour, and Kal-El puts the cape on afterwards. Zombies and all that jazz is pure Burton material.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: gordonblu on Sun, 29 Aug 2010, 17:48
The only problem I have with that synopsis is that it sounds like a Bizarro/Venom hybrid. I also do not like Superman with long hair, it just doesn't seem right. The comics play up the boy scout angle (almost too much, admittedly),and turning him into a long-haired drug-hazed hippie  would be really against type.  Cage stated he  wanted it to be a more classic Supes, and I think the only reason he had long hair in the pic is because he was doing Con Air at that time.

Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Kamdan on Sun, 29 Aug 2010, 18:33
Cage had his hair long because it was his natural style at the time. They were just testing the costume, not the final look, which would come in later.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: The Joker on Fri, 29 Oct 2010, 17:04

Some 'interesting' pics have surfaced.

http://comicbookmovie.com/superman_movies/news/?a=24590
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: gordonblu on Fri, 29 Oct 2010, 19:57
Hmmmm. Very interesting. I like the more stylized S shield design, but I fear in total it would have been TOO far from the basic superman look.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: phantom stranger on Mon, 8 Nov 2010, 04:51
Not a real trailer, but nicely done:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN_jlMADDSg
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Paul (ral) on Wed, 10 Nov 2010, 09:04
That photo of Cage in the suit has been confirmed as a fake by Steve Johnston. The only suit ever created was the "light up" one.

I knew it!
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Kamdan on Thu, 11 Nov 2010, 05:46
Sources, please? I've already stated my sources as to why I believe those first pics are real.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Paul (ral) on Thu, 11 Nov 2010, 10:11
It was on his facebook page.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Kamdan on Thu, 11 Nov 2010, 15:30
Looking... can't find it.

Maybe it was the only one HE worked on and didn't know about the previous attempts. Remember, Superman was going have a traditional suit at the beginning and he got the "electro man" suit when he came back.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Paul (ral) on Thu, 11 Nov 2010, 17:42
http://www.facebook.com/stevejohnsonfx

look at the first reply on the second status update down

Quotestevejohnsonfx - Also wanted to mention that the Japan video that's been floating around for years is a total fake, this was the only suit ever created for the film.

Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Kamdan on Thu, 11 Nov 2010, 22:04
Exactly right. It was the only suit created the film that was going to be used ON SCREEN. That first suit was a simply a prototype suit, to test and see what the material would look like. Having the Superman suit in molded plastic, like Batman, wasn't the way to go, so another angle must have been taken. It's like looking at Chris Reeve's Superman suit that he wore in his screen tests and saying that was going to be the actual screen used suit.
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: The Joker on Sat, 13 Nov 2010, 15:16
Quote from: Paul (ral) on Wed, 10 Nov  2010, 09:04
That photo of Cage in the suit has been confirmed as a fake by Steve Johnston. The only suit ever created was the "light up" one.

I knew it!

;D
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: BatmanFanatic93 on Mon, 15 Apr 2013, 18:25
Just incase anyone cares these are the real photos of cage as the man of steel
(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.scroll.com.tr%2F2013%2F02%2Fnicolas-cage-superman.jpg&hash=481d5e472146e95c51990176b110f8ff8f6dae95)
Title: Re: Pic of Nick Cage as Superman (Possibly Real?)
Post by: Kamdan on Fri, 18 Aug 2017, 14:03
Good to know you were right about something 8 years ago!