Why did Tim Burton let Daniel Waters write Robin into the first draft of the movie when Waters said in an interview that he and Burton hate the character and think he's the most useless character in the world? If Burton had the power to veto from the get-go, then why didn't he?
to give them someone to kill off?
Ah, great idea!
The studio probably tried to put pressure on Burton to introduce such a well-known character into the series.
That could be true but I thought their only ground rule for Burton was that the Penguin had to be the main villain. Could very well be true though.
A little off topic but in that same interview about them hating Robin, Waters said he was originally going to have Harvey Dent in the movie and he said that it was originally Sam Hamm's idea, yet it's nowhere to be found in Hamm's script.
Being that it was indeed Daniel's first draft, Robin being included was apparently being tested at this stage in development. And as mentioned in the previous post, WB would have welcomed Robin's introduction into the series with open arms, but were (according to Burton's interview in the SE) ultimately taking more of an interest in who the chief villain would be, and that as they saw it, was The Penguin.
Much like the Penguin, Robin in the Burtonverse would have been very distinguishable from any previous incarnations, but ultimately it was decided he wasn't necessary to the film itself. Even if the whole Robin inclusion did get as far as Marlon being cast.
and an action figure even! even though its white. lol
Oh yeah, I forgot about that ;D
i had like 10 batmans, the robin, a penguin, and of course, catwoman. i don't have any of them anymore :'(
As a kid I always prayed and hoped that Toy Biz would make an action figure of the comic book version of Catwoman but for some reason they never did >:(
I wish the toy-makers had made toys of all the main characters including Shreck, and Commissioner Gordon. :(
Having a Max Shreck figure would have been cool.
As a kid, I remember seeing the Robin Batman Returns action figure, but at the time knew NOTHING about Marlon Wayans being linked with the role. I just figured it was a nice "what if" since it was very much the Tim Drake modernized Robin.
whoever has the toy license (mattel?) should do toys of the old movies since hot wheels is doing all the old batmobiles and sh*t.
Quote from: The Joker on Thu, 24 Sep 2009, 02:03
Having a Max Shreck figure would have been cool.
yea it would!
In an ideal world the following characters would get their own toys/dolls:
Batman:
Batman
Bruce Wayne
The Joker
Jack Napier
Vicki Vale
Alfred
Commissioner Gordon
Carl Grissom
Harvey Dent
Bob
Alicia Hunt
Lieutenant Eckhart
Alexander Knox
Batman Returns
Batman
Bruce Wayne
Catwoman
Selina Kyle
The Penguin
Max Shreck
Chip Shreck
The Ice Princess
The Organ Grinder
The Poodle Lady
Strong Man
Thin Clown
Fat Clown
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Thu, 24 Sep 2009, 03:21
In an ideal world the following characters would get their own toys/dolls:
Batman:
Batman
Bruce Wayne
The Joker
Jack Napier
Vicki Vale
Alfred
Commissioner Gordon
Carl Grissom
Harvey Dent
Bob
Alicia Hunt
Lieutenant Eckhart
Alexander Knox
Batman Returns
Batman
Bruce Wayne
Catwoman
Selina Kyle
The Penguin
Max Shreck
Chip Shreck
The Ice Princess
The Organ Grinder
The Poodle Lady
Strong Man
Thin Clown
Fat Clown
Quoted for Truth.
I mean, really. I think there would definately be a market for action figures based on all WB Batman films. The line could be similar to how WWE market's their "Legends" line.
I've always wondered why there haven't been any DC Direct action figures based on the movies. Or for that matter the Adam West series, Reeve's Superman films, etc.
a talking ice princess doll would be kewl too. now, just so i have it right, she would talk and then i would push the button, right?
;D very good
Marlon was signed for 2 films. Apparently Burton did not want to use the dick grayson mantle and have him named Robin. In the DVD he indicates that even as it was, there was too many characters and not enough Batman and robin would have convluded that.