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Title: The 'Joker'
Post by: Joker81 on Sat, 19 Sep 2009, 23:00
Check out this great article. Brilliant read!!!

www.retrojunk.com/details_articles/4508/
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Post by: Azrael on Sun, 20 Sep 2009, 00:09
Thanks for the link, great article
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Post by: BatmAngelus on Sun, 20 Sep 2009, 00:48
Some very familiar comic-to-film comparison pictures in the 1989 film section of that article....  ;)
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Post by: Joker81 on Sun, 20 Sep 2009, 00:59
It is great, and I agree with most of what the article says.
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Post by: Paul (ral) on Sun, 20 Sep 2009, 01:11
good article - me likey
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Post by: The Dark Knight on Sun, 20 Sep 2009, 04:56
Very good article on the best comic book villain. I enjoyed reading it.
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Post by: The Joker on Sun, 20 Sep 2009, 13:42

What a great article this is on THE best comic book villain of all time.  :)
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Post by: phantom stranger on Mon, 21 Sep 2009, 06:50
"...in the movie caused by a failed plastic surgery trying to repair a shot wound."

Wait, what?

I never viewed the smile as being caused by a failed plastic surgery. The way I saw it, it was pretty much the chemicals. The surgery just tried to make the best of the situation.
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Post by: The Dark Knight on Mon, 21 Sep 2009, 07:04
I agree. Probably a combination of both. I'm thinking the chemicals played a larger role, though.
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Post by: The Joker on Mon, 21 Sep 2009, 13:32
Quote from: phantom stranger on Mon, 21 Sep  2009, 06:50
"...in the movie caused by a failed plastic surgery trying to repair a shot wound."

Wait, what?

I never viewed the smile as being caused by a failed plastic surgery. The way I saw it, it was pretty much the chemicals. The surgery just tried to make the best of the situation.

I agree. I don't believe the surgery was THE cause of the perma-smile, but with the shoddy work the surgeon himself pretty much admitted to ("look at what I have work with here" or something along those lines), it may have very well highlighted what was already there. Though I suppose anything would be an improvement over what he was looking like directly before the fateful dive at Axis Chemicals.
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Post by: Grissom on Mon, 21 Sep 2009, 17:24
Great article and great history there concerning the origins and history of the greatest comic book villain of all time. I especially liked the quote from Ledger he included, because I heard it soon after he did that interview and alot of Nicholson vs. Ledger folks out there should listen and learn.

Ledger knew this Joker will be different and not the same as Nicholson's and he did a great job at it. Cheers to Ledger, Big Cheers to Nicholson and everlasting cheers to The Joker.
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Post by: GuedesGothamKnight on Mon, 21 Sep 2009, 19:20
Wow, one of best Joker articles I've ever seen... thanks man!
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Post by: The Dark Knight on Tue, 22 Sep 2009, 09:27
Quote from: Grissom on Mon, 21 Sep  2009, 17:24
Ledger knew this Joker will be different and not the same as Nicholson's and he did a great job at it. Cheers to Ledger, Big Cheers to Nicholson and everlasting cheers to The Joker.
Well said. Ledger was very respectful to Nicholson's portrayal. Die hard supporters of Ledger's Joker should remember that. The real star is the character, not the actor portraying him. Both actors brought out different facets of the character. Each actor played his style perfectly - hence why neither can be said to be better. Simple as that.
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Post by: Grissom on Tue, 22 Sep 2009, 20:01
Summed it up nicely, Dark Knight.  ;)
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Post by: GothamAlleys on Mon, 27 Sep 2010, 01:42
Oh wow, as Im browsing the forum for some interesting topics I found this. I actually wrote that and just rewrote it/"remastered" it (corrected the english a little and inserted quotes)and put in my blog

As for the perma smile being caused by the wound, I always got that impression. The bullet went through both of his cheeks and then there are no marks on those cheeks later on, post-surgery. The doc talks about nerves being severed after Jack reacts to his face. To me all that says the smile was a result of the stiffed nerves that were caused by the surgery of those wounds